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Immigration and Ireland - MEGATHREAD *Mod Note Added 14/08/25*

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  • #7562
    Marcos
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 609 ✭✭✭Marcos


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123636557#Comment_123636557

    Oh the alarm bells are ringing for them, and they're desperately circling the wagons and trying to downplay his involvement. Only Minister for Children my bollocks, he specifically requested the integration role so he could send those tweets in six languages out promising own door accommodation within four months. That is on him, and the fact that he won't take responsibility for any negative outcomes from that says everything there is to say about him.

    Nor should we forget that he deleted two reports on suspected sexual abuse of children in Tusla care by retired Judge Simms on what seem very dodgy grounds. Hopefully this isn't the case and that there is no sexual abuse of children in Tusla's care. But looking across the water at the rape gangs scandal in the UK, I'm not so sure.

    When most of us say "social justice" we mean equality under the law opposition to prejudice, discrimination and equal opportunities for all. When Social Justice Activists say "social justice" they mean an emphasis on group identity over the rights of the individual, a rejection of social liberalism, and the assumption that unequal outcomes are always evidence of structural inequalities.

    Andrew Doyle, The New Puritans.



  • #7563
    RobbieTheRobber
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,409 ✭✭✭RobbieTheRobber


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123636893#Comment_123636893

    Ah here we go the WEF conspiracy waffle is back.

    Its NGOs, the EU and the WEF who set irish immigration policy not the Irish minister for justice (Currently Jim O'Callaghan of Fianna Fail) right pronudo?

    Your post belongs in the conspiracy forum.

    Most self proclaimed free speech absolutists are giant big whiny snowflakes!



  • #7564
    eightieschewbaccy
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,283 ✭✭✭eightieschewbaccy


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123636893#Comment_123636893

    One thing that's being highlighted in this thread is how much of people's views on immigration are surrounded with conspiracy theories. I also find it absolutely fascinating that you will fanboy over criminals and rapists if they come out with an anti immigration view. Let's just remember figureheads that posters love include Conor McGregor, Donald Trump and Tommy Robinson.



  • #7565
    PokeHerKing
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,040 ✭✭✭PokeHerKing


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123636407#Comment_123636407

    Hes helping indians. Not the wider community.

    But hes being appointed to a position that covers the wider community. Even though all of his work is purely for the Indian community.



  • #7566
    ancapailldorcha
    Moderators, Category Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 42,914 CMod ✭✭✭✭ancapailldorcha


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123637012#Comment_123637012

    How do you know he's not helping the wider community?

    The foreigner residing among you must be treated as your native-born. Love them as yourself, for you were foreigners in Egypt. I am the LORD your God.

    Leviticus 19:34



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  • #7567
    PokeHerKing
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,040 ✭✭✭PokeHerKing


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123637018#Comment_123637018

    I read what you quoted. Did you?



  • #7568
    prunudo
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,289 ✭✭✭prunudo


    Just because people shout conspiracy doesn't mean it is so. There are plenty of documents and studies to show this is all being pushed by the aforementioned organisations. But given link dumps are banned, people need to do their own homework.



  • #7569
    Thorny Queen
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 115 ✭✭Thorny Queen


    Are the anecdotes really finished?

    If they are...I'll tell you about the shambles that is our Irish Education System. In 2017, the Irish government knew that there were huge needs in the system (hello you opened the flood gates for all and sundry). So, they devised a programme for Special Ed whereby only the weakest of the weak will get support. I'm talking the STENs of 1,2 and 3. Forget about the other children who are struggling.

    In my school 70% of my timetable is gone to language needs, so either no English or the worse is the children who were born here but do not speak any English at home and never will. No effort made to integrate or learn the language by the parents ot Grandparents who live here.

    The government knew that they would have had to employ 1000s of extra teachers to support these children so they changed the goalposts completely.

    That's if you even have a learning support teacher available as a lot have to go into mainstream because they don't can't get the staff.

    I think this will all come to a head soon. I know of children who are receiving absolutely no support but are struggling so badly.



  • #7570
    ancapailldorcha
    Moderators, Category Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 42,914 CMod ✭✭✭✭ancapailldorcha


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123637028#Comment_123637028

    You clearly didn't and you have nothing to back up your cynical claim.

    The foreigner residing among you must be treated as your native-born. Love them as yourself, for you were foreigners in Egypt. I am the LORD your God.

    Leviticus 19:34



  • #7571
    mrslancaster
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,253 ✭✭✭mrslancaster


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123637018#Comment_123637018

    From what you posted it looks like he was involved in initiatives and programmes for immigrants - particularly Indian immigrants which is understandable as they are his community. Maybe he was involved in wider community projects, any info on those?



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  • #7572
    ancapailldorcha
    Moderators, Category Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 42,914 CMod ✭✭✭✭ancapailldorcha


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123637030#Comment_123637030

    In other words, you want people to research your debunked racist conspiracy theory for you.

    The foreigner residing among you must be treated as your native-born. Love them as yourself, for you were foreigners in Egypt. I am the LORD your God.

    Leviticus 19:34



  • #7573
    ancapailldorcha
    Moderators, Category Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 42,914 CMod ✭✭✭✭ancapailldorcha


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123637055#Comment_123637055

    The events cited in the article are a non-exhaustive list. It seems unlikely he'd have gotten this role if he wasn't involved with the whole community.

    The foreigner residing among you must be treated as your native-born. Love them as yourself, for you were foreigners in Egypt. I am the LORD your God.

    Leviticus 19:34



  • #7574
    prunudo
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,289 ✭✭✭prunudo


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123637058#Comment_123637058

    Again, shouting racist or conspiracy theory doesn't cut it any more. Its been used for too long to shut down opposing views. Anyone who does a bit of digging, can see what is happening and coming down the tracks, and knows full well where this all comes from. Because one thing for sure, ROG sure isn't the mastermind.



  • #7575
    RobbieTheRobber
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,409 ✭✭✭RobbieTheRobber


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123636557#Comment_123636557

    He oversaw the publication of a whitepaper!

    That's the big deal?

    🤣

    Meanwhile the minister for justice is responsible for;

    https://www.gov.ie/en/department-of-justice-home-affairs-and-migration/policies/justice-what-we-do/

    • Implementing government policy and proposing new policy on crime, immigration, asylum, criminal and civil law reform and the criminal justice system in general.

    https://www.irishstatutebook.ie/eli/1964/si/248/made/en/print

    Most self proclaimed free speech absolutists are giant big whiny snowflakes!



  • #7576
    PokeHerKing
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,040 ✭✭✭PokeHerKing


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123637050#Comment_123637050

    The article that was quoted is all anyone can discuss. You quoted what is in it in order to claim the OP was racist.

    Im commenting on what you quoted and its all work done for the indian community. Nothing quoted is for the community at large.



  • #7577
    ancapailldorcha
    Moderators, Category Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 42,914 CMod ✭✭✭✭ancapailldorcha


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123637085#Comment_123637085

    Nobody is shouting and nobody is shutting you down. You're peddling racist drivel and you're being called out on it.

    Let's see some hard proof.

    The foreigner residing among you must be treated as your native-born. Love them as yourself, for you were foreigners in Egypt. I am the LORD your God.

    Leviticus 19:34



  • #7578
    mrslancaster
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,253 ✭✭✭mrslancaster


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123637071#Comment_123637071

    That’s an assumption on your part.
    He is clearly involved in projects on behalf of his own community but it doesn’t follow that he is also involved in any other project for the benefit of the wider community. It is a possibility of course.



  • #7579
    ancapailldorcha
    Moderators, Category Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 42,914 CMod ✭✭✭✭ancapailldorcha


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123637101#Comment_123637101

    The OP was hysterical than a man with brown skin occupied a volunteer role and dumped an image, ignoring the charity work this man does. The racism is obvious.

    To me, it's pretty obvious that this fella is helping the community as a whole. If you want to say otherwise, feel free to back it up.

    The foreigner residing among you must be treated as your native-born. Love them as yourself, for you were foreigners in Egypt. I am the LORD your God.

    Leviticus 19:34



  • #7580
    PokeHerKing
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,040 ✭✭✭PokeHerKing


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123637113#Comment_123637113

    Its not obvious from the article. Which is all anyone can go off.

    What is obvious from the article and the bits you actually quoted is that all of his community work is on behalf of the Indian community.

    Im not sure why youre tripping over yourself trying toclaim otherwise. It would almost seem like you have an agenda.



  • #7581
    ancapailldorcha
    Moderators, Category Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 42,914 CMod ✭✭✭✭ancapailldorcha


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123637140#Comment_123637140

    The conspiracy rhetoric isn't helping. Since you've nothing to back up your cynical claim, let's leave it there.

    The foreigner residing among you must be treated as your native-born. Love them as yourself, for you were foreigners in Egypt. I am the LORD your God.

    Leviticus 19:34



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  • #7582
    mrslancaster
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,253 ✭✭✭mrslancaster


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123637113#Comment_123637113

    Likewise, if you want to say the projects are of benefit to those other than the immigrant and Indian communities, feel free to back it up.



  • #7583
    ancapailldorcha
    Moderators, Category Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 42,914 CMod ✭✭✭✭ancapailldorcha


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123637147#Comment_123637147

    After you.

    The foreigner residing among you must be treated as your native-born. Love them as yourself, for you were foreigners in Egypt. I am the LORD your God.

    Leviticus 19:34



  • #7584
    PokeHerKing
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,040 ✭✭✭PokeHerKing


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123637146#Comment_123637146

    Would you care to backup your claim? Or is it only opposing views that require that?

    Lets Just stick to what IS backed up. By the article posted. All his work is for the indian community according to the article.



  • #7585
    One eyed Jack
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,104 ✭✭✭✭One eyed Jack


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123635924#Comment_123635924

    Why are the powers that be hiring an Indian national with NO connections to Letterkenny be peace commissioner and carry out 'legal functions' ? The Peace Commissioner used to be for local men, and known respected men, community men.


    Where do you come up with this nonsense? 😂


    The role of a Peace Commissioner is an honorary appointment by the Minister for Justice. Anyone can apply to be a Peace Commissioner, or be nominated by another person -

    Peace Commissioners are appointed (and may be removed from that appointment) by the Minister for Justice, Home Affairs and Migration under Section 88 of the Courts of Justice Act 1924.

    …


    There are no qualifying examinations or educational standards required to be appointed as a Peace Commissioner but you are required to be a person of good character. Most Peace Commissioners are well established in their local community. Anyone who has been charged with or convicted of a serious offence will not be considered for appointment.

    …

    You may apply to be appointed as a Peace Commissioner on your own behalf, or you may be nominated by another person or you can nominate someone you feel would be suitable for this position.

    https://www.gov.ie/en/department-of-justice-home-affairs-and-migration/organisation-information/peace-commissioners/



  • #7586
    mrslancaster
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,253 ✭✭✭mrslancaster


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123637150#Comment_123637150

    Sorry what? 🙄



  • #7587
    eightieschewbaccy
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,283 ✭✭✭eightieschewbaccy


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123637030#Comment_123637030

    Care to link to these studies that illustrate a WEF conspiracy? Cause it sure sounds like you're pushing the great replacement conspiracy theory... Infamously enough was cited by the perpetrator of the Christchurch killer.



  • #7588
    dubdamo
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 203 ✭✭dubdamo


    David Mac Williams on his latest podcast arguing that we have to drastically cut the levels of immigration into the country. He argues that we can’t cut immigration from EU countries or UK so we must target asylum seekers and work visas from non EU counties. He’s a very reasoned , middle of the road type individual. What he was saying would have been labelled as far right and racist only a short time ago by mainstream media and politicians, definitely a shift in attitudes recently.



  • #7589
    PokeHerKing
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,040 ✭✭✭PokeHerKing


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123637423#Comment_123637423

    This will always be labelled far right and racist by a certain cohort.

    The more mainstream commentators we get onboard the better but i cant see it making much difference.

    We're already well on our way to the point of no return.



  • #7590
    crusd
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,483 ✭✭✭crusd


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123636455#Comment_123636455

    It is always concerning when people express avowed hate for an "other" whatever that other is



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  • #7591
    [Deleted User]
    Posts: 0 ✭ [Deleted User]


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123637423#Comment_123637423

    Unfortunately logic seems to go out the window in this country when it comes to immigration control. The left will scream racist and go into hysterics if any effort is made to stem the tide, while Micheal Martin will angrily mumble something about magical "international obligations" and suggest any basic checks and balances will play into the hands of the far right or some such rubbish.



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