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Thinking of moving to EV

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,865 ✭✭✭Buddy Bubs


    I bought the R5 for 2 main reasons, the nostalgia and also that I think it genuinely looks class. My mother had one when I was a child, first car I can remember.

    The EV thing didnt come in to it for me, its actually my 4th since 2020 and also the fact we have a bigger car, the R5 doesn't need to be the most practical, spacious, load lugger or be at the top of the EV range charts, bit then again its close to the bottom of the market for price, there's really only a handful of cheaper EVs out there.

    I think if you really love the car, and many do, i haven't seen this type of universal acclaim in a long time, and it does the job for you, then go for it.

    Just make sure you have access to your own charger if going electric and that your regular journeys dont involve public charging then your experience will be great.

    I've publicly charged maybe 20 times in my EVs. The vast majority has been free work charging, the holy grail of EV ownership! But night rate charging at home is silly cheap too.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,899 ✭✭✭Oscar_Madison
    #MEGA MAKE EUROPE GREAT AGAIN


    Not daft at all - and considering the R5 is a great car and great reviews I’d certainly consider it



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 404 ✭✭Mythago


    I went from a 2013 Volvo V60 D2 to a Polestar 2 in 2023 and I'm very happy with the move. The Polestar has a few deficiencies compared to the V60 but, after 2.5 years & 56000km the only thing I really miss is the boot space/access and that's rare.

    Regarding your concerns over the tech; yes it can look like overload coming from the C30 but, your biggest obstacle will be muscle memory especially if you had the C30 for ages then it'll just take a bit of time to get used to it.

    If you're in no rush then test drive a few more cars or take the 5 out again, watch a bunch of Youtube reviews. EV's will still be around in few months.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 6,468 ✭✭✭DaveyDave


    I have a 172 Mk7.5 Golf Highline 1.0 TSI DSG and a 222 Cupra Born EV. Don't let the touch screens or other features on newer cars turn you off, once you setup your options on the Born it's no different to any modern car. I don't need to go digging through menus to turn on my heated seats or fiddle with the radio.

    Even a Mk7 Golf will be a big jump in technology compared to anything pre-2010, I wouldn't say something like a Born is much different other than being a smoother, easier car to drive. I'm also saving quite a lot of money on fuel and servicing costs despite only doing 10,000-12,000km a year.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 758 ✭✭✭weadick


    Have you ever plugged in your EV to charge and it didn't charge? I know it sounds irrational but that is the kind of paranoid fear I have.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 663 ✭✭✭eastie17


    once, because I had cancelled the payment card tied to my ESB ecars account, 2 minute call at the charger to support and I was back in business



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,799 ✭✭✭✭smurfjed


    The technological leap is massive, but the amount of enjoyment you get from a well-equipped modern EV is on another level. For me, one of the best features is automatic car following in traffic—I just sit back and relax while the car handles the stop-and-go.

    I’d recommend test driving a few to see how you like them.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,598 ✭✭✭...Ghost...


    Invest in a good home charger and that fear will go to zero pretty fast. The first home chargers weren't great. Mine tripped often in winter. It was a known breaker issue in the unit. Once replaced with a matching breaker, the issue was gone. It was just a plug and play dumb charger, but had a 13A socket built in, allowing us to charge 2 EVs.

    Now we have a Hypervolt 2.0 and a separate outdoor socket on its own circuit if we want to give some juice to both. I wouldn't hesitate recommending Hypervolt. They are great. They work with solar and load balancing for the house too.

    Stay Free



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 6,468 ✭✭✭DaveyDave


    The only issue I've had with charging was my charger was losing power due to water damage which was a known fault of the older version of the charger and it was replaced under warranty.

    For public chargers I downloaded, registered and added card details to a few charging apps and I was good to go. I've only really used Ionity chargers and it's easy to use them.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,865 ✭✭✭Buddy Bubs


    I've on 5th car with a plug, 4 EVs and 1 PHEV and none of them have ever failed to charge. Had a bit of figuring out when using new type chargers the odd time but only took a couple of mins



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,599 ✭✭✭User1998


    I’ve actually had loads of times over the years where different cars have failed to charge. Dodgy granny cables, scheduled charging times, broken public chargers etc



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 43 EV01


    yup, twice yesterday - with different CPOs. Spent half an hour on phone to each and the operators were unhelpful (clearly untrained). In the end both claimed the CPs were “out of order” despite the CP displays indicating they were “in order” (just not working). Very frustrating. If you look on CP mapping “out of service” seems to be a growing contagion in the UK (hopefully better in Ireland), and you can understand why - people just aren’t using them, so they’re not getting serviced +maintained. Bad news when you’re away from home and not near a large conurbation… Frankly I can’t see many of these CPOs being around much longer



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,598 ✭✭✭...Ghost...


    At the rates they charge in the UK, I agree. I'm thankful to be able to use the Tesla network, which just works! Plenty of redundancy. Live updates and fast charging.

    The only issue I had with a fast charger in the UK was back in 2017, when we were bringing our first EV (Leaf) home, the charger wouldn't start up. Rang customer service and they turned it on remotely for us and we were getting free juice. 30 minutes later, we were ready to leave, but charger wouldn't stop. Customer service was closed and I had to hit the emergency stop button to stop the charge and disconnect.

    The biggest issue for charging was here when it was free. Serious amount of abuse by locals and Taxi drivers. I welcomed the charging for charging and in fairness, the 24/7 call centre is pretty good to have for the esb ecars.

    Stay Free



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,716 ✭✭✭Mad_Lad


    Your rose tinted glasses haven't as strong a tint you see……… 🤣



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,716 ✭✭✭Mad_Lad


    I had loads of issues too over the years and had to call ESB and Ionity on several occasions wasting a lot of my time.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 541 ✭✭✭electricus


    The only problem I have with public charging is having to manage so many different apps, accounts, and pricing systems. It would be much better if we could simply pay with a bank card for a single advertised rate.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 14,095 ✭✭✭✭fits


    if the locations suit your driving routes it’s hard to beat Tesla with regard to charging. Spent the weekend in the west and charged twice in the Tesla superchargers in athenry and once in Clifden on ESB and no waiting anywhere. All worked fine. Covered about 800 km.

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 14,095 ✭✭✭✭fits


    it’s happened us a few times. Usually an issue with the home charger. But we’d plug in anytime the car hits 30-40% so it would still have at least 150 km range to get anywhere you’d need to be. Had a couple of teething issues in France as well. But we have never actually been stuck. Not once.

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 43 EV01


    despite all the hoo ha about T’s ‘CEO’ it makes pretty decent cars and has an incredible CP network. Problem is that not everyone can afford those cars (assuming they would want to or that they would want a large EV)

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 803 ✭✭✭JohnySwan


    Happened to me yesterday in Killarney, Esb chargepoint wouldn't work. Someone had pressed the emergency push button. Faffing around for 35 minutes to get a 10 minute charge and nobody answered the number on the charger. Women in an Mg4 charging for well over an hour, then another in an Enyaq blocking the other working charger for about 20 minutes, after she finished charging.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 404 ✭✭Mythago


    Yep, about 10 times since March 2023:

    Twice at home; first time the Zappi had failed (replaced under warranty), second time because I asked my daughter to plug the car in and she didn't push it in all the way. I've forgotten to plug it in more than I've had problems.

    Rest of the time at public chargers:
    2 broken Ionity units & 2 broken ESB units in 1st six months of ownership & the rest were user error on my part.

    The bigger issue with charging is peoples ignorance of others. I have had more issues due to people charging to 100% and hogging a charger than non-working chargers. The increase in fast chargers throughout the country over the last 12 months has been great. If you drive the M7 regularly, Junction 14 & Obama Plaza are very busy but, Portlaoise and nearly all the Applegreens have less busy chargers.

    If you have a driveway get a tethered charge and plug the car in daily as if it were an iphone (or Android). If you're going on a long trip it takes about 5 mins to look at the route on your phone and see what your charging options are



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,774 ✭✭✭MojoMaker




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 43 EV01




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 43 EV01


    “it takes about 5 mins to look at the route on your phone and see what your charging options are”

    =

    when you arrive at your planned charge point “(you’ll then) see what your charging options are…” 😄



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,598 ✭✭✭...Ghost...


    Unless it's a large, expensive Tesla, you'll know in advance

    Stay Free



  • Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 40,648 Mod ✭✭✭✭Gumbo


    I don’t think it’s common knowledge that the Model 3 is one of the cheapest EV’s pound for pound available at €37,500, compared to your new e208 at €32k, it’s not really much more for a segment up car.

    New drivers might think it’s big, but it’s actually a small car driving around town, or people buying a Hyundai Inster will think it’s a shop compared to that micro car I suppose.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 43 EV01


    the Tesla 3 is 8” wider than that old Chairman’s favourite, the Daimler Double Six (and just 5” shorter)

    but more importantly it’s too damn big to fit my clutter-filled garage 🤣

    and the price number - replace with a pound symbol and that’s a good wodge of dough for your average Brit



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 43 EV01


    sure, but Tesla have their own fab swanky charge stations - the rest of the peasantry gets the broken down out-of-order cr@p and an offshore ‘helpline’ 😂



  • Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 40,648 Mod ✭✭✭✭Gumbo


    The garage problem i can relate to, after this weeks weather, i have a swimming pool to store away now!

    WRT price, this is an Irish site so all prices will be based on the euro pricing here locally. We cant comment on other jurisdictions i suppose.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,716 ✭✭✭Mad_Lad


    It's not just about cost, I don't like the look of them and I don't like their interiors. I assume I'm not alone.



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