Russia-Ukraine War (continuing)

Even if, IF it were somehow true that there were millions of seemingly oppressed Russian speakers in the Donbas, and I don't grant you that for a single second. That STILL doesn't give Putin an excuse to dismiss international law and invade/annex another country. Unless you wanna tell me now there were millions of oppressed Russians in Kiev needing saving now too?

So even if you're right, you've still another hurdle you ain't crossing.

1. Currently the bill is under amendment so that Trump can use parts of the bill at his discretion. That is to say he can secondarily tariff whichever entity he pleases. Now that's not to say he'll use it properly, because hes a moron. But hey ho.
2. See unlike you I actually believe in what I say. I've donated many times to charities for Ukraine in a few different formats. I have great conviction in my beliefs that Putin and his Nuclear armed Mafia regime is the most clear and present danger both to democracy and peace worldwide. A temporary tariff on European/Indian/Chinese goods being sold to America is a small price to pay to watch that genocidal regime implode.

I see Crimeans are second class Russians now. A Crimean got involved in politics in Moscow. The kremlin took away his rights as a russian citizen and declared him a rank below russian citizen.

So this bs about russian citizens in occupied areas is just that, bs.

You can't claim a high ground... You are acting as an apologist and have made it clear that you're a frequent visitor of genocidal state.

Why are ye giving them the air to breath?

https://www.rte.ie/news/world/2025/0713/1523250-north-korea-russia/

Earlier, Mr Lavrov met with his counterpart Choe Son Hui and thanked the "heroic" North Korean soldiers who have been deployed to aid Russia, TASS said.

So we've gone from there's definitely no North Korean troops involved, no sir! to now they are brave honourary "heros", fighting for Russia.

Pretty much inevitable life cycle of Russian disinfo about something evil and/or reckless they have done but prefer to obfuscate for a time (in this case dragging in the armed forces of another country on their side, to escalate the war).

Lies and denial to start, and then at the end, just revelling in it - yeah we did that and are proud, so what!

International law died in 1999 Virgil with the illegal attack on Serbia by Nato, then the illegal annexation of Kosovo without a referendum and subsequent recognition of Kosovo as a state by multiple nations in 2008. Very difficult to call out the exact same thing now with such vigor without looking like total hypocrites 25 years later.

It was always going to come back and bite certain countries on the **** because the precedent was set. Never mind the illegal attack on Libya again breaking international law, the illegal invasion of Iraq based on lies presented to the UN security council as WMD's resulting in the death of millions in the region and chaos enduring to this day.

Hell, even attacking nuclear facilities is fair game now going by recent events. The lack of condemnation is telling from certain countries and organizations who also seem to be very quiet about putting bone crushing sanctions on the madman from Tel Aviv.

again trying rewrite history

Remind everyone when Chechen war started? Those lads wanting to quote yourself “self determination”

Nato and the US have a lot to answer for, quite amazing how the Europeans went along with it despite all the warnings given for 30 years. Now they watch on and scream for peace and a ceasefire despite turning down a simple solution before it started.

That's not in any way a reply to what I wrote. I could start dropping 10 minute long poorly edited videos for you to consume in reply to everything you write. Would you like that? Or maybe you should try not being so lazy and make your own arguments?

So have you dropped the mocking tone around kids being stolen from Ukraine? That is to say Putin and Lvova-Belova discussing on stage how they're lifting children from the occupied areas and relocating them to Russia proper.

Textbook genocide on display and admitted to in video by the regime itself. And you here still whatabouting on and on about how we weren't nice enough to the Russians to stop them from invading? Your brain has been melted by Kremlin propaganda you just don't see it.

Still peddling the lie about Istanbul on the thread, after it being discredited about half a dozen times already.

You know how this goes. You make a false claim about Istanbul being just about neutrality.

You can't back it up.

You know you can't back it up because the evidence proves that there was no agreement at Istanbul on key issues such as territory, sovereignty, size of armed forces etc.

It is a claim that gets more dishonest each time, given that you're already tried to make this argument, been unable to support it, and having the actual evidence presented to you multiple times.

But then we should probably expect such tactics as this when someone going to bat for a regime that deals in lies, that deals in war crimes, atrocity and rape. The only way to 'defend' the Russian position is with lies and whataboutery. Standard Russian operating procedure.

Here's you repeating a version of the same lie in December last on the thread, and having it completely discredited.

Good news everyone

BlyatGPT is now officially a thing

The posters morally bankrupt position is that it was wrong for NATO to stop Serbians slaughtering in Kosovo.

But ok for Russia to do exactly that in Chechnya.

@brickster69 runs away from this point everytime because they and Russian propaganda scripts have no answer for it.

By Russian standards Ukraine could have slaughtered every last Russian sympathizer in Ukraine.

After all thats what Russia did in Chechnya and not once has brickster69 criticised such atrocities.

Why, because a NAFO account draws a couple of arrows on an Institute of war map. Sounds a bit like that encirclement in Sumy doesn't it ?

And there is a strong possibility that the 2nd Chechen War was contrived by Putin himself with his false flag bombings in Ryazan.

The absolute irony. You're CONSTANTLY posting map updates of supposed "encirclements" and reports of settlements "about to fall" even when those reports come straight from the f*cking Kremlin.

You've absolutely lost the run of yourself mate.