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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,556 ✭✭✭Jeff2


    I'm not bothered whether it shows up or not or any of the benefits.

    You can take my word.

    Post edited by Jeff2 on


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 543 ✭✭✭Dublin Calling


    It is meaningless, you cannot sign away your statutory rights.

    This is also the issue of VAT on the Subscription…



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 457 ✭✭redunited


    Man, thats like 10k already, they have way more than enough to keep the site running, literally a years hosting is about 500 euro!

    This is more about lining the pockets of the owner!

    I wont be donating until there is more transparency on whete the money is actually going.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 303 ✭✭Soc_Alt


    Boards.ie drove itself into the ground by selling the site, then changing hosting and modding based on personal agenda.

    There will always be hangers on but they tend to just want to preserve their post count thinking it was some sort of influence on the site.

    May Boards.ie Rest in peace and a more innovative leaner site be reborn from the ashes.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 770 ✭✭✭Avatar in the Post


    And yet you can’t keep away yourself. Strange that



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  • Moderators, Business & Finance Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators, Paid Member Posts: 26,203 Mod ✭✭✭✭Loughc


    Leave them off it’s great for traffic. Advertisers will love it. Ironically saving boards by posting about the death of boards.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 303 ✭✭Soc_Alt


    If your preception of not keeping away is posting once a month then boards.ie really is in big trouble.

    But the above post is exactly why boards is boards.

    I can see why " Avatar " some want to keep it alive as some type of release mechanism.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 644 ✭✭✭tiegan


    ^^^ This 100%

    Threw my bullseye into the pot too



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 8,513 ✭✭✭corkie


    Getting the word out by posting on socials. Created the post last night, but have recreated the record this morning so it gets bumped in an Ireland feed my account is on.

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    Note: - Profile name masked out, don't want to be accused of self promotion. Also a recreated record and not a repost so it gets bumped in the feed.

    Looking forward to changing my avatar @Boards.ie: Mike when ye fix that perk for paid subscribers.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,281 ✭✭✭Damien360


    When is the removal of vanilla customisation coming to pass ? As I understand, it was always a plan to go back to base vanilla even with the subscriptions.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 15,802 ✭✭✭✭loyatemu


    "A years hosting is €500"

    I don't even know where to start with this ridiculous statement.

    Put your money where yer mouth is... Subscribe and Save Boards!

    https://subscriptions.boards.ie/



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,094 ✭✭✭Pacing Mule


    What is the situation with adverts.ie?

    Is this also under threat? Does revenue from adverts.ie not support the site here anymore? Or were the two separated as part of the sell off?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 608 ✭✭✭Dogsdodogsstuff


    I think, the €50, for me is a nostalgia and legacy payment for recognition of the time I’ve spent here, whether posting or not. Post count doesn’t add up all my browsing time and I’d imagine many don’t consider that when professing how little they will miss boards. This is kind of like how I wish xtravision had somehow managed to remain (even though it was finished after netflix etx).

    Preserving cultural icons/facilities or things that are no longer viable is part of most society on some level. So people feeling some element of familiarity here and wanting to keep it, really is quite great. In fact I feel that we are witnessing in here is the very definition of community.

    What we lose when a place like Boards.ie disappears isn’t just a forum , it’s a space for reflection in a world that’s forgotten how to slow down. I know the audience has changed and people mostly show little capacity for self reflection anyways , but maybe a bit like a library, it’s a familiar place for some to remember the feel of a less chaotic and frantic world.

    In today’s culture of instant gratification and endless churn , where new platforms, opinions, and trends are replaced before they’ve even had time to settle , something vital is being lost. The pace of modern capitalism encourages shallow interaction and disposable thinking. The next clickbait article, the next hot take, the next dopamine hit… it all pushes us forward without ever asking us to understand.

    Boards wasn’t perfect, but it allowed for depth even if many didn’t and don’t use this option. . For heated debates that sometimes led to mutual understanding or at least to sitting with another view for more than five seconds. It gave people space to talk rather than react but it’s no coincidence in the divided world political landscape that this would poison discussion in the most heated forums.

    What replaces it will likely be quicker, flashier, and more addictive but not necessarily better. And that, to me, feels like a quiet symptom of something bigger. A culture drifting, not evolving.

    And before anybody says “look at this sucker getting all sentimental and romanticising about boards”, I am not remotely sentimental. Rather than attacking a poster with a differing view I reflected on my own motives for donating the funds and why I want boards to survive.

    I spent more bringing one of my children to superman. People as usual were talking during the movie. It’s so annoying but I don’t want to see cinemas die so I continue to go but I try to avoid the obnoxious and clueless punters who have no common sense cinema etiquette. I certainly don’t ask the cinema to show me their accounts and make promises to me that it won’t happen in the future as I don’t see that as reasonable to hold a company entirely responsible for a changing culture that means they are barely hanging on.

    So, I don’t see €50 as a huge gamble so don’t feel emotionally on the hook. It’s gone and even if the owner takes my money and run , I’ve spent way more relative time here (that’s my most valuable commodity) relative to the €50.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 8,513 ✭✭✭corkie




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 817 ✭✭✭_BAA_RAM_EWE


    I read as far as instant gratification and switched to pornhub



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 13,614 ✭✭✭✭Exclamation Marc


    It's not under threat. The problem with Boards is that it's loss-making and ultimately if it's draining money, owners will eventually cut it loose. It (Adverts) could support it (as could DoneDeal and Daft which are all Distilled owned) but why would it if it's just losing money.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 15,802 ✭✭✭✭loyatemu


    I think the point is that Adverts started as part of Boards and was spun off to help support the overall company at the time. Now it's been separated completely so the fact that it may be profitable is no help to Boards.

    It's like a new owner buying a football club and then selling the stadium to developers, suddenly the club's no longer viable.

    That's just business I guess...

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    Put your money where yer mouth is... Subscribe and Save Boards!

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  • Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators, Paid Member Posts: 16,007 Mod ✭✭✭✭smacl


    Posting once a month? 299 posts since April 2024 averages 20 posts per month, seems you're on here quite a bit more than you seem to think.



  • Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators, Paid Member Posts: 16,007 Mod ✭✭✭✭smacl


    Now add the cost of a full time employee on a modest wage, rent on minimal desk / office space for that employee, employers RSI, insurance costs for running a site like this as well as any admin, accounting and other sundry costs for running even the smallest limited company and let us know how far that 10k goes. My guess is hosting is not the biggest ticket item by any stretch of the imagination.



  • Moderators, Politics Moderators, Paid Member Posts: 43,563 Mod ✭✭✭✭Seth Brundle


    On a shared windows hosting package that supports MS Access databases - simples! 😎



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 15,802 ✭✭✭✭loyatemu


    Put your money where yer mouth is... Subscribe and Save Boards!

    https://subscriptions.boards.ie/



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 16,977 ✭✭✭✭MisterAnarchy


    Hosting is only one factor but if Boards is to survive subs alone wont cover it.

    Costs will have to be cut to the bone, there is no real justification for renting an office space in this day and age of remote working.

    Hosting costs are very cheap nowadays, as are server costs, the physical cost of running a site like this is not that high.

    Most of the day to day running is done by volunteers, mods and Admin from what I can deduce.

    An annual running cost of 100k seems extremely high.

    Difficult decisions will have to be made I fear.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,209 ✭✭✭The Rooster


    Somebody else mentioned the accounts (balance sheet and notes) are publicly available on the Companies Registration Office. Proifts for 2022 was €64k. For 2023 the profit was €30k. That is after paying wages, directors fees, taxes and all other expenses.

    So certainly capable of making a profit, but owner has said revenues will decrease in 2025 due to changes in google search engine reducing one-off visitors, hence the need for subscriptions.



  • Moderators, Arts Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators Posts: 78,778 Mod ✭✭✭✭New Home


    He's been missing pretty much since the news broke. I've considered sending smelling salts in case (s)he fainted, only I don't know where (s)he is.

    Or, he's on holidays.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 457 ✭✭redunited


    How much do you think hosting costs?

    This is from Go Daddy,

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    Boards.ie could be run from a bedroom.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 457 ✭✭redunited


    It could be quite easily run as a hobby, no need for an employee at all, it isnt facebook or X. Based on the 200 subs already around 10k has already been raised, so that is more than enough to host and operate the site, the mods are already voluntary. As i said, what ye are all paying for now is someones salary, and what do they do? What type of salary are they commanding to sit over a website that relies on voluntary moderators and public contributions?

    remember Boards is still collecting AD revenue too.

    Politics.ie for instance is hosted, operated for a few hundred Euro per year, why is Boards and different or special?

    Boards.ie isnt going anywhere, especially when 200 people have just put up 10k!



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 457 ✭✭redunited


    Also just to add, with the 10k raised switch to Xenforo, far superior to Vanilla.



  • Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators, Paid Member Posts: 16,007 Mod ✭✭✭✭smacl


    People seem very hung up on server costs, which I agree aren't going to be that high. No real idea without seeing current storage and traffic volumes, but a quick check shows £210 per month for a UK based enterprise Vanilla server. I'm guessing the current hosting with its modifications costs considerably more. The more important question is whether the site can be run without any full time employees which I seriously doubt, even with a host of unpaid mods, cmods and admins trying to keep things moving.

    To be honest, just €10k a month is a very modest business venture even if the only employee was the business owner, which in this case, they're not. I applaud @Boards.ie: Odhran and @Boards.ie: Mike for keeping it ticking over as is, anyone who thinks they're lining their pockets needs a crash course in running a micro-business. For a site that has provided, and continues to provide, so much value to so many people for such a small return on investment, the level of small-minded begrudery and whingeing shown by some on here is deplorable.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 13,614 ✭✭✭✭Exclamation Marc


    And the salaries of those working to upkeep the site? Unless you're expecting someone to work for free...

    That of course doesn't bring it to the full cost quoted but you're only looking at one small part so saying it could be run from a bedroom is a bit disingenuous.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 457 ✭✭redunited


    If they paying those type of costs then the site deserves to go down.

    You can purchase far superior Forum Licence such as Xenforo for around 150 euro for 12 months, Even the old Boards software Vbulletin was cheaper than what you quote for Vanilla.

    Forum software Licence 150 euro.

    Hosting 500 euro.

    Annual domain renewal 50 euro.

    It would literally cost 700 and no more to run this site.

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