Manchester United Thread 25/26 - Teamtalk/Transfers/Gossip Mod Note in OP 26.09.24

exactly. the utd fan shouldn't have given the glazers a sweetheart deal allowing them to stay.

The idea he was on his way out was too good to be true..he'll be at carrington soon making unwanted noise and negative press with Rashford

Think (some) people expected these best in class appointments and new way of doing things with the football people in charge of the football, to improve the recruitment I guess. I'm sure of it in fact. People were promised a new dawn, and some believed it \0/

He has first refusal and can match any external offer for Glazers shares, but let's be honest nobody is paying what they want.

Yeah stats wise it looked / looks good across the relatively small sample size.

For me stats must always go in hand with what you see with your own eyes.

I have never seen a player like Amad cover the wing back spot and excel over a long period of time. Especially as a "wrong foot" wing back.

I think it CAN look good when we are attacking (especially against sides we are attacking mostly) and I can't fault him for his work rate. But if Amad was a permanent fixture at RWB I think teams would target him. They would try to overload his side and look to bully him in that area physically.

I don't think it is the solution long term but he can do a job there from time to time.

The way I see it is you can't just take any winger and make them a wing back or any full back and make him a wing back. It is a specialised role IMO and there is certain characteristics (mostly physical) which I just don't believe you can get by in the role without unfortunately.

You have so much space to cover and so much you need to be able to offer at both ends of the pitch. It requires a high level of output at both ends.

I know RA had form for these kind of ideas at Sporting regarding the type of winger at RWB or LWB. But in the PL and at the better sides in Europe I don't think it works or at least won't work longer term.

re amad, dorgu, whoever else…do we know if amorim wants to play with wrong footed wingbacks or right footed ones. i would presume right footed ones (they overlap the inside 10's to give a crossing option).

it seems to me to be completely random. amad right-side cutting in. dorgu left going on the outside. dalot right going on the outside. dalot left cutting inside.

i guess my question is, what does he want from the wingbacks? and please dont answer a bit of both. what is the actual philosophy?

they don't.

They have the option to sell all their shares, and if the buyer is willing to buy all their shares, AND all the public shares, AND SJR refuses to match the same price, then the Glazers can force SJR to sell his shares to the new buyer. SJR maintains right of first refusal on any deal they would make, and the glazers can't force SJR to sell his shares to them.

Additionally, if the Glazers were to sell their shares to a third party without SJR selling up, then the third party is immediately bound by the same legal agreements re. sporting control that were agreed with SJR, making it unappealing for a third party to buy the glazers shares, imo.

Where is the talk coming from? Seeing nothing from usual reputable sources.

Yeah, the U21's bench

Tier I want to believe.

[Graeme Bailey] Sources state that Manchester United and Brentford are getting close to Bryan Mbeumo final agreement.

🔴 United expect him to be on US tour
⚪️ Mbeumo fully focused on joining United
⚫️ Possible Wissa sale won't impact on Mbeumo

In the world where Elanga has zero reports of attitude issues, a good work ethic and a generally positive attitude, plus Forest don't want rid of him.

Garnacho has years of issues with leaking lineups via his brother, threw a strop after the Europa final, and United clearly want rid of him.

Even without the attitude problems, the fact that Forest would prefer to keep Elanga and we don't want to keep Garnacho is enough to account for odd pricing.

New striker!!!! Sort of

Garnacho signed for Utd when he was only 16. His attitude, ego and professionalism would have been developed by watching the established stars around him at the time. Players like Pogba, Rashford, Lingard and later on Sancho etc. Not exactly players you want to hold up as role models to be copied.

I dont think many of us realise just how bad the culture was. Young players being immersed into that environment can be negatively impacted, some more than others, and I honestly think that's whats happened with Garnacho.

I also worry a bit about Mainoo and whether he has been tainted in a similar way. I know he did well under ETH, as did Garnacho, but now they are having to adapt to a new manager, new style, new playing demands and this is where we need to see those other critical traits on show - tenacity, professionalism, putting the team before themselves, keeping their mouths shut on social media and handle their grievences in house.

As much as I love Garnacho for his talent, excitement and bravery(in an attacking sense) on the pitch, you can't allow ongoing petulence and poor attitude. If he goes on to tear it up at Napoli or wherever else then more luck to him, but himself and the other two need to be away from the club at all costs.