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Thinking of moving to EV

  • 08-07-2025 12:04PM
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    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 759 ✭✭✭


    Currently driving a 2008 Volvo C30 diesel and thinking of making the switch to EV. I was doing 20,000 miles a year until recently but moved house and now my annual mileage is down to 11,000 miles so this is the first time an eletric vehicle has become possible.

    Has anyone else recently made the leap from an older car to a modern EV and how have you found it? Would a PHEV car make more sense for before moving to full EV later on? I'm not great with new tecnhology generally so am a bit nervous about moving to full electric.

    Just saw the new Renault 5 for the first time in a showroom and am really tempted by it.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 730 ✭✭✭sept09baby


    I switched from a new diesel and no regrets. Even at 20k a year it would be fine for modern EVs. Can't see the need for hybrid

    As long as it's possible for you to install a home charger it should be a great decision. I have an ID3 so can't comment on the R5 but from what I've seen it's a great car.

    Think you'll notice a big difference tech wise coming from an 08 car regardless if you went for EV or ICE so will be a bit of a learning curve either way



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,627 ✭✭✭User1998


    You could easily do 100,000 km a year in an EV as long as you have a home charger. If anything it makes more sense as the fuel savings are greater



  • Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 40,657 Mod ✭✭✭✭Gumbo


    17,600km a year is nothing.
    What way is that broken down?

    350km a week?
    350km a day one a week etc

    If you can jump straight to EV, that’s where you’ll notice the savings and smoother drive over a PHeV.

    What is your budget?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,880 ✭✭✭Buddy Bubs


    I went to EV doing about 24k kms a year but a good bit more would not have been a problem. First EV was a 58kwh Born, the 24k kms was a mix of a shortish commute, tipping around in evenings and weekends, few long trips from Dublin to Cork/Limerick/Antrim for work and a few leisure trips to Mayo too

    Did have to do a top up charge on long trips but only ever for 10-15 mins or so

    Moved to 77kwh car for work now and those trips in summer are doable with no stops but sometimes still do anyway. Winter will defo need a stop, but plenty of motorway chargers on those routes.

    Also just have a Renault 5 since 3rd July but cant comment how it is on long drives, I expect it will be close enough to the Born.

    Give a bit more usage info here and people will advise on which car to consider, loads of happy owners

    But as above, home charger is absolutely key. Dont do it otherwise.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 759 ✭✭✭weadick


    My commute is 28 kilometres each way, four times a week. Other than that it's just spinning around, seeing relatives etc, not major mileage. My wife has a Toyota CHR so we use that any time we need to go anywhere far away.

    My house was built recently so it is wired up already for a home charger.

    Budget is around 35,000 which is why I was looking at the Renault 5, plus I love the styling.



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  • Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 40,657 Mod ✭✭✭✭Gumbo


    Perfect, then anything in that bracket would more than work.

    R5

    Tesla Model 3

    Cupra Born

    VW ID3

    Hyundai Inster

    MG

    Dacia

    You really have a lot of choices. Best thing to do is narrow it down to a few and go drive each and every one of them and see which one jumps out.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,627 ✭✭✭...Ghost...


    Your commute is similar to mine. I'm 35 each way, mostly motorway. The rest is also tootling about, but I occasionally take a longer cross country drive, so it's nice having the range. I started in the early Nissan Leafs, almost all local driving. An occasional Dublin to Belfast trip with a charging stop on the way back.

    Moved to a Tesla Model 3 three years ago and it was a game changer. Well over 400km range and a new one will set you back circa 37k. There is 1% finance on them, which might make all the difference in your choice. Out of all the others, it's the most efficient EV and comes with the best spec. The basic autopilot feature essentially drives the car for you on main roads. I sold mine 2 weeks ago. Picking up a Model Y to replace it.

    If buying a Tesla, be sure to use a referral code to get free charging credits (1000 free kms). Here is the referrals thread on here. Use any of them. Mine is post 10 😉. Thank me later

    Stay Free



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,873 ✭✭✭BrianD3


    If you can cope with 4 seats, Hyundai Inster small battery would be more than sufficient and cost way less than 35k.

    More practical and cheaper than a Renault 5 and very likely more practical than a 2008 Volvo C30.

    See Bjorn Nyland's Banana Box findings here.

    https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1V6ucyFGKWuSQzvI8lMzvvWJHrBS82echMVJH37kwgjE/edit?gid=0#gid=0



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 44 EV01


    “Just saw the new Renault 5 for the first time in a showroom and am really tempted by it.”

    Hmm, that’s a worry. If you’d said “Just test drove the new Renault 5 for the first time and loved it!” I’d be inclined to go with the other comments.

    But… I’d suggest you do some ‘work’ to satisfy yourself that the car you buy is the car you know is right for you

    I’m 68, retired, and had a fab little Panda 4x4 (my fourth!) and loved that car. But my local (excellent!) garage guy retired and it no longer made sense (complicated engine, no DIY skills and low mileage) so I had to change my car, and opted for the Inster (02/’Elegance’) having compiled a shortlist, watched every YT video!, and test-driven 2 on the list. Driving the Inster convinced me - solid build quality, good vehicle warranty (5 years), well-regarded local servicing agent (essential!), adequate range - and it fits my garage!🤣

    So that’s my two penn’orth. You don’t want to buy in haste and repent at leisure

    Edit to add: Hyundai UK have been promoting extended 24 (even 48?) hour test drives. Don’t know if this extends to Ireland (or if not whether friendly dealers offer this) but it’s the best way to understand the good +bad points (every car has them) and whether you can live with the ‘bad’. Good luck!

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 759 ✭✭✭weadick


    I actually drove the 5 yesterday and really liked it but am afraid it might be too much of a jump from what I have. I found the tech a bit confusing. Something like a mk7 petrol Golf might be a better car for me. A bit boring I know...



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,954 ✭✭✭Oscar_Madison
    #MEGA MAKE EUROPE GREAT AGAIN


    Try doing the maths in terms of servicing/fuel etc and see how you feel then?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,383 ✭✭✭witchgirl26


    I would also echo test driving a few. I moved to an EV 2 years ago through work & had the option of about 4. I test drove all of them. If you'd asked me before the test drive, I probably would have put the Ionic 5 at the top of the list. Loved the look of it etc. After the test drive, the Skoda Enyaq went straight to the top. Such a lovely drive whereas I found the double screen in the Ionic distracting & the car felt big to drive. Just like other cars - not all EV's are the same driving experience. I didn't like the multiple screens & having to go through menus to find anything. The Enyaq had some "normal" buttons for things like aircon etc.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,299 ✭✭✭Mav11


    I'm in the same position as the OP @weadick , 09 diesel doing about 5k a year. The car is NCT'd until Feb of next year. I am considering making the switch to the R5 or Inster, but I think I'll wait until I see what the budget brings in terms of a scrappage incentive!!



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,627 ✭✭✭User1998


    I can’t see there being any scrappage schemes announced. There is still huge demand for cars like a cheap tax diesel Focus so you’d easily sell it for a few grand on the open market.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,954 ✭✭✭Oscar_Madison
    #MEGA MAKE EUROPE GREAT AGAIN


    “but I think I'll wait until I see what the budget brings in terms of a scrappage incentive!”

    I’m sort of the same but it may or may not happen - and very possibly prices of new EVs will miraculously rise overnight if any scrapage deal becomes too generous - that’s just what has happened in the past or people buy bangers for 100 quid and wheel them up to the showroom .

    I’m probably more focused on getting a good finance package - it’s soul destroying seeing what pathetic rates some companies are offering - it adds 1000s onto the purchase - but I’ll probably have to bite the bullet soon so may as well get my act together - buying late in 2025 and a demo model is probably where I’m hoping I could make some decent savings



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,299 ✭✭✭Mav11


    I agree with both of the above and I am in the comfortable position of having a valid NCT until Feb 26 and do low mileage, so I can wait.

    Under normal circumstances I'd be looking to buy something 12 months old. But maybe and it is just maybe a good scrappage might make the purchase of a new EV more viable??

    We'll wait and see!



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,954 ✭✭✭Oscar_Madison
    #MEGA MAKE EUROPE GREAT AGAIN


    Every little helps as they say- getting the right car at the right price with the right funding can set us up for success



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 44 EV01


    ”it’s soul destroying seeing what pathetic rates some companies are offering - it adds 1000s onto the purchase”

    Hyundai UK currently have a 3 year 0% plus £1,000 price reduction ‘PCP’ finance deal on the Inster which is a pretty decent offer but I don’t know if this extends to Ireland? (UK prices are much higher)

    “a demo model is probably where I’m hoping I could make some decent savings”
    That’s what I bought in May - a 3 week old dealer ‘demo’ Inster 92/‘Elegance’ with just 400miles (670km?) on the clock and £5,000 off list.

    Sadly you can’t have the Hyundai 0% on a dealer demo! And dealer finance is usually a rip-off ☹️



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,954 ✭✭✭Oscar_Madison
    #MEGA MAKE EUROPE GREAT AGAIN


    Yeah that’s what I’ve noticed - even 0% usually means a hefty down payment upfront but it’s better than nothing - depending on the discount amount, the demo version may be a better buy overall - let’s see when the time comes



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,758 ✭✭✭Mad_Lad


    I'll tell you what's soul destroying, the amount of tax the Government get and people having to get loans out to pay the Big Government bill, that's soul destroying !



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,758 ✭✭✭Mad_Lad


    Do you really think you get free money ? you not think it's added to the cost of the car ?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 44 EV01


    the cost may be a ‘fair’ market price or a ‘rip-off’, or (very occasionally) a ‘bargain’

    all of us want the latter but many (most?) of us get somewhere in between the former

    and it’s not easy assessing when pricing has numerous ‘add-ons’ rather than a simple OTR price - and that’s before we try to untangle the finance deal (unless it’s a straightforward 0% deal from the manufacturer, and with the bonus discount Hyundai’s is ‘fair’)



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 7,174 ✭✭✭zg3409


    One thing to factor in is the cost of delaying a move to EV. I calculated a fuel savings of 4000 euro a year on my commute. Every month I delayed was costing me a lot in fuel. So I switched 8 years ago and no regrets.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,758 ✭✭✭Mad_Lad


    Why would he buy a new car when his old works just fine really with some minor issues it sounds like it go years more.

    His fuel costs and maintenance wouldn't be a lot considering his mileage.

    New car, interest, even if none + depreciation rarely makes sense. Even if I had to pay 2000 a year on fuel I wouldn't get a new car again to save maybe 1500 a year or less on petrol or diesel - any public charging fees which are expensive.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,758 ✭✭✭Mad_Lad


    The other side is that I switched back to ICE after 10 years and no regrets….not yet anyway. 1 year and 2 months in.

    It was like going back to the future.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,954 ✭✭✭Oscar_Madison
    #MEGA MAKE EUROPE GREAT AGAIN


    ”Why would he buy a new car when his old works just fine”

    Eh it just might have something to do with him expressing an interest in buying one, and opening a thread to get other posters views. 🙂



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,758 ✭✭✭Mad_Lad


    Oh I suppose when he said "Something like a mk7 petrol Golf might be a better car for me" I had assumed he was thinking of a lot more sensible car purchase.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,954 ✭✭✭Oscar_Madison
    #MEGA MAKE EUROPE GREAT AGAIN


    “Just saw the new Renault 5 for the first time in a showroom and am really tempted by it.”

    This is the opening post



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 759 ✭✭✭weadick


    My post probably doesn't make sense in lots of ways. I'm just v sentimental about cars, always have been. I know that sounds stupid. The reason I've driven so many Volvos over the years and drive one now is because when I was a child we lived near Billy Naughtons in Tralee so alot of my earlist memories are seeing 1980s Volvos around the place. It's the same kind of thing with the Renault 5. My parents had one in the mid 90's and I was ferried to and from primary school in the back of one, so I have fond memories of it, even though it was a troublesome car! So that's why seeing the new 5 in the showroom had such an effect on me. I can't recall the last time I was excited by a new car, definately nothing Volvo have released in the last ten years. I know it's probably a bit daft letting sentiment or emotion influence a car purchase. I'm just trying to step away from the emotional side of things weigh up logistically if an EV is practical for someone like me and was looking for advice from people who are more experienced with them.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,758 ✭✭✭Mad_Lad


    I was a big fan of the 1980s model, My Aunt had a 1981,I would have been 1 years old , it had around 45 Hp, I really loved that car.

    But, the current model is so far from the original it's just a Renault 5 by name, if they followed the Motorbike trend of reviving old bikes into what we call modern retros , think Kawasaki W800, Meguro S1, Honda GB350s , Royal Enfiels Classic 350 , the list goes on. Same could be done with cars except manufacturers feel they have to load the car up with screens and tech and the more the better, I don't see it that way. Tech for the sake of tech.

    A petrol version should have been an option with a proper retro interior, a lot closer to the original, they could still include all the legally required EU useless bollocks tech.

    The Mini being a good example of what can be achieved.

    The Honda Supercub is still on sale, the supercub was introduced in I think 1956 and is the Worlds largest selling automobile. The 2nd is a Toyota corolla.



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