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Zero Situational Awareness

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 51 ✭✭Barcley


    That's true but by beat the operator I meant clear the till counter as quickly as the operator can fill it, the fact that I then take the trolley to the packing area or tip it into the car boot doesn't matter as I'm no longer holding up the queue and that's what good situational awareness is about.



  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Arts Moderators, Sports Moderators, Paid Member Posts: 55,425 CMod ✭✭✭✭magicbastarder


    Yeah, I'd agree with this. It's only when they **** with my system that things slow up. I always load the belt with the order I want to pack in mind; heavy sturdy items first as they go into the bag first, finishing to with light easily crushed items. But sometimes they reach over the heavy items and grab something light first. In that instance, I'm not going to pack in the order stuff is handed to me.



  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Arts Moderators, Sports Moderators, Paid Member Posts: 55,425 CMod ✭✭✭✭magicbastarder


    Though I do remember my mum telling us years ago that she'd been down the local Tesco and some community group, scouts maybe, were doing bag packing for charity. She did stop a young lad who put the eggs in the bottom of the bag, and was about to put something heavy on top of them; and he proudly explained his logic to her - if the eggs broke, being at the bottom, they wouldn't run all over the other shopping.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,068 ✭✭✭tommythecat


    There is a checkout guy in my local Aldi who is notoriously fast. I packed all my shopping in the correct bags; fridge, fruit and veg, miscellaneous, toiletries and was waiting for him at times and he commented afterwards that no one had ever kept up with him before. Think I'll enter the Olympics!

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,641 ✭✭✭Bogey Lowenstein
    That must be Nigel with the brie...


    When an item refuses to scan and they have to type in a code it gives you a respite and lets you catch up.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 24,317 ✭✭✭✭dxhound2005


    That was tip number one from Tommy, who devised the system to beat the checkout operators.

    TOMMY’S TOP TIPS

    1. Scrape off some of the black lines on the bar code of one item and put it half way along the conveyor belt so that the checkout assistant has to punch the lengthy code in on the keypad instead. You could gain 10 to 15 seconds of valuable bag packing time here especially if you deliberately add further confusion to the situation by pretending you’ll go back to and pick up a replacement with a good barcode. This might cause them to panic and lose the run of themselves handing you an early psychological advantage.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,191 ✭✭✭✭mfceiling


    Airport is full of them.

    Was in London over the weekend

    Flew out Friday morning. My bag was pulled at security for a check (they wanted to test the power bank I had). 3 bags before mine were also pulled.

    Security man "who owns this bag"? He asked around 6 times before a middle aged American lady beside me finally said it was hers. The next bag was a white one. Again after 6 or 7 calls she claimed it. Third bag...you guessed it.

    Now this woman was standing in front of the security people looking at her bags. How stupid/unaware can you be not to know that your bag is in front of you?

    She had toiletries in all 3 bags that she wasn't allowed to have.

    Coming home a teenage kid was walking slowly in front of me on the walk from the plane to passport control. His parents asked him 3 times to move out of everyone's way. Eventually he moved... directly in front of me and stopped. His dad shouted at him "for God sake move to the right like everyone else". I'll give him a fools pass as teenagers aren't particularly aware at the best of times.

    Also going out on Friday morning there was a mother with 3 kids standing at the area for packing your toiletries into the little plastic bags. Nobody could get near the bench to even get a bag. The gormless looking father was standing to the side watching them. Eventually my wife was able to reach over one of the kid's shoulder and get a bag. As we walked off I said to the father "good idea to have the 4 of them standing there blocking it for everyone else". Barely registered with him.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,019 ✭✭✭BP_RS3813


    The yanks tend to be worse then most in my experience.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,247 ✭✭✭chrissb8


    Gotta be honest, I find that too. They are overbearing in how complicated they can make a simple thing. Was with a group of them on a flight going to Ireland, and you would think you get on, put your bag in the overhead locker, sit down, stuff your hand luggage under a seat and there, you're done.

    But no, an American woman was talking to her fellow Americans about where to put the bags, where people were sitting, did you need this, did you need that. All this on the plane as people are still boarding, then a kid was asking people if he could take their seat to sit beside his sister. They both said no.

    Just. Fckn. Sit down, shut up and get on with it. None of the above needed to be an ordeal; it's a flight, you're all on it, your luggage is packed away. What fckn more needs to be said, read your boarding pass, and sit in your seat. There. That's all there is to it.

    I don't know why people need to over complicate things to just yap s****



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 11,383 ✭✭✭✭John_Rambo


    I find Italians worse. As charming as they are, I’m constantly amazed by their ability to block entire pathways en masse. I'm not even talking about students here. They’ll walk eight abreast and I’ll be flattened against a wall while they come barrelling through. It’s clearly a cultural difference. That said, they are usually quite apologetic post collision or after a belated "excuse me"!



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 21,541 ✭✭✭✭Alun


    Sounds a bit like the hordes of Spanish students, supposedly here to learn English, who every year manage to block the entire width of the promenade on Bray seafront wandering along at snails pace talking loudly amongst themselves in Spanish, and swearing, again in Spanish, at anyone who dares to make them get out of their way.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 11,383 ✭✭✭✭John_Rambo


    They're just teenagers. The same all over the world…. Aside from the cursing (which I haven't experienced) they get a pass along with the elderly!



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,019 ✭✭✭BP_RS3813


    I was there at the airport recently (work - not there now - somewhere else now) and there was a crowd of them who's flight was boarding next door to the cafe. Asking do they have time to order food when the flights about to be boarded - also asking can I have x but not y etc. The place offered either a breakfast burger or a breakfast burrito (eggs,bacon,sausage, beans, salsa and avacado). Bunch of clueless twats who can't tell time - apparantly ordering food while boarding is happening is seen as acceptable, asking can it be rushed etc.

    All of them asking can she get a bunch of different sh*te taken on or off whist also asking about different types of coffee (drip etc - of course they only had your usual machine) and do we have creamer, single cream, double cream etc. Ffs🙄😠 - all whilst supposedly being in a rush.

    All whilst there is a massive line out the door. Sit the f*ck down, choose your food without the customisation and coffee, and shut the f*ck up.

    I think maybe its because back home life is usually 'slower paced' and are not a rush or as busy as we typically are. As you said cultural differences. Probably not used to a jam packed busy place or scenario like Dublin Airport. Its annoying but at least you know they don't mean it.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 56,647 ✭✭✭✭tayto lover


    When I was at school many years ago we were taught to walk on the outside of the footpath and allow the inside for women, people with prams and the elderly. Now i find that as an OAP I am expected to step off the footpath to allow groups of kids, who are spread across the footpath, to pass before they knock me down.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,019 ✭✭✭BP_RS3813


    I generally go by numbers - if a group of 10 are walking together then I expect a little bit of space to given so that I don't have to step off the footpath. If I am in a group then I'll do my best to make sure the group does the same.

    Never really went by status - whether it be OAPs, women. Would never make a pram step off the path though.

    This is more of a group mentality thing then a status thing in my opinion. If a group of 9 walking 3 abreast are taking up the footpath and force a individual off it then its up to the individual to yield to them and not the other way around unfortunatly.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 56,647 ✭✭✭✭tayto lover


    It was taught in Civics class years ago. I doubt they even mention manners nowadays in schools.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,019 ✭✭✭BP_RS3813


    "Civics" class isn't a thing nowdays, don't think it has been for a while.

    What was the subject/class like?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 765 ✭✭✭BaywatchHQ


    People often walk in groups along the whole width of the foot path so you end up having to walk on the road. I think it is an intimidation tactic like animals in the wild. They want to feel powerful and intimidate the loner man.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 1,439 ✭✭✭z80CPU
    Darth 8-bit


    Had it in first year secondary school. One of the more educational subjects. The teacher unions wanted civics dropped though supposedly to be superceded by something else - I forget.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,216 ✭✭✭✭One eyed Jack


    Ahh they do tayto, but it’s all too quickly forgotten, much like civics was forgotten in your time too! 😁

    Say one thing though, there’s definitely something to be said for your generations ability to tell a story, that does appear to have been lost in subsequent generations sadly 😔

    BP like z8 says, it was interesting, learned about politics and the EEC as it was then, learned a lot about that actually because we weren’t just Irish citizens any more (not since 1973), we were now European citizens. Learned about Irish politics and citizenship and really it kinda blended into history as it went on. In secondary school (early 90’s) it had pretty much fallen off in favour of history, and then got a rejuvenation in around the mid 90’s and became CPSE - Civil, Personal and Social Education.

    None of the ‘woke’ stuff like was intended by the curriculum in the 60s 😋

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    https://mural.maynoothuniversity.ie/id/eprint/5249/1/Deirdre_A_Murphy_20140722095123.pdf

    Actually… it’s pretty much the same nowadays as it was then, now I think about it 🤔



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,019 ✭✭✭BP_RS3813


    Huh, so its just the old version of the kids CSPE then?

    Yeh the social elements of the curriculam isn't really there anymore regarding giving way on paths etc like @tayto lover said. Is more about politics, structure of the EU etc. Seems they stripped that part out.

    Edited to add

    Seems there is an SPHE subject with the S being social "Social, Personal and Health Education" but from the looks of it its basically sex ed and relationships. Nothing on general social interactions.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 688 ✭✭✭fortwilliam


    I have had great fun with this, best tactic is to just STOP. Stand in the middle of the footpath, looking directly at the group.. they get totally confused and try how to figure out how to walk around you.. try it, it's hilarious watching them try to navigate the situation.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,564 ✭✭✭Large bottle small glass


    I can handle dopes in the main areas of a supermarket but I'm considerably more cranky while waiting at till.

    A couple of years ago I was in Aldi in Clonmel at till. I had maybe 20 items and was halfway through loading belt. There was 2 or 3 other customers in front of me.

    While reaching into trolley to get remaining items gobsh1te arrives and places divider tight up against my items and drops his 10 or so items tight on the other side; leaving me with no room for my remaining items.

    He was close to getting a slap.

    Instead of violence I chose to grab divider and held it while belt started to move; causing his items to pile up and a couple to fall to floor. At which stage dope wakes up and starts shouting at me "what are you doing, what are you doing"

    "Showing you the cost of being an ignorant prick".



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,013 ✭✭✭Feisar


    I'll tell you a funny one. Dad (late sixties) and I were on at train to Birmingham airport, we were over for a funeral. Packed train, found a seat, I ask Dad to sit down. Next stop an elderly woman and a girl in her twenties get on. Dad gets up to let the elderly woman sit down. Doesn't the young wan with her sit in! In fairness ya don't know someone else's situation. It was still funny taking it at face value though.

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  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Arts Moderators, Sports Moderators, Paid Member Posts: 55,425 CMod ✭✭✭✭magicbastarder


    i had to leave my wife waiting at the eccles street entrance to the mater recently, on her knee scooter - she recently had ankle surgery - while i went and got the car. she's clearly in a cast and also had a pair of crutches with her.

    no-one sitting on the benches she was standing beside, offered her a seat.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,013 ✭✭✭Feisar


    It's not their fault, they weren't taught how to carry themselves.

    First they came for the socialists...



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 11,383 ✭✭✭✭John_Rambo


    It’s not. They just have no situational awareness. If I stopped them twenty metres after they passed you and asked what you looked like, they’d ask “Who?”. You didn’t even register.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 41,040 ✭✭✭✭Hotblack Desiato


    What is with the "let's stand beside the trolley while pushing it" trend? Got stuck at the weekend behind a gobshite who insisted on doing this even though the aisle was crowded. They just stood there like a thick while waiting for a double-width gap to open up. Why? What is wrong with pushing the trolley like a normal person? They were capable of doing so, as I saw them later (in an uncongested area 🙄) pushing it normally

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 24,317 ✭✭✭✭dxhound2005


    Please ignore the advice to stop suddenly on the footpath. This will cause a pileup of people behind looking at their phones. That is not much fun.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 11,383 ✭✭✭✭John_Rambo


    Do you get the impression that if someone had said something some would have jumped up and immediately offered a seat? That happened to me on a LUAS on Sunday, lots of GAA fans sitting, I asked could one of them give up a seat for an elderly person and a few of them jumped up immediately, a few simply sneered but one or two got up.



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