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Presidential Election 2025

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,914 ✭✭✭✭Larbre34


    He's absolutely not going to.

    He has too much unfinished business to give up Taoiseach after 10 months and is too much of a workaholic to want the presidency, it would drive him mad.

    He will be Taoiseach until 2027. Currently the deal is a rotation with Harris in December of that year, however the Presidency of the European Council opens up in summer 2027, and may well appeal to him. The incumbent, Costa, has the right to stand again for another 2.5 years, but the Renew Europe block have never had a Council president and Martin is a very senior figure in that group.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,152 ✭✭✭JVince


    Aubrey is an exceptional person and probably too good for politics.

    I dealt with him about 30 years ago when moving from here to the UK (he has a removals business) and he did not know me yet gave some sound advice on moving and some things to watch out for.

    I don't think you'd find anyone who could say a bad word about him.

    Could be the dark horse as he's not attached to any particular party and probably a little left of centre in his views



  • Moderators, Sports Moderators, Paid Member Posts: 30,095 Mod ✭✭✭✭Podge_irl


    I don't think you'd find anyone who could say a bad word about him.

    I think you'd struggle to find anyone who could say anything about him. Ultimately, you need to get a preference from 50%+1 of the electorate as presidency. a relative unknown won't do it.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 38,105 ✭✭✭✭Hotblack Desiato


    There is a big problem - nobody has heard of her. Mary Robinson was quite well known for years, McAleese less so but had been an RTE TV reporter for a while.

    On Bertie - said it before but I wouldn't bet money on him surviving seven years let alone standing for President

    I'm partial to your abracadabra,

    I'm raptured by the joy of it all.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,914 ✭✭✭✭Larbre34


    Whatever about Robinson, Caoilfhionn Gallagher is exactly as well known among the general public as Mary McAleese was in 1997. Which is to say, not very.

    In fact, the only reason McAleese got any sort of a boost in profile at the beginning of her campaign, was when the Fianna Fáil exec, and Bertie, absolutely shafted and humiliated Albert Reynolds at the selection, and picked her instead.

    But look at it this way. Lets say FG pick McGuinness and FF pick Mary Hanafin. SF are going to go their own way, and my money is between Michelle O'Neill and Conor Murphy for that.

    That leaves the remaining leftist parties an opening to do another 'Robinson', and nominate Gallagher, who has an exceptional track record on human and civil rights and is currently the State's Special Rapporteur for Children.

    FF, FG and SF only have about 20% each of the first preferences these days, and a big cohort don't wish to vote for any of them, ever. Which means, a person like Gallagher, not only a distinguished legal mind with zero Party baggage, but forthright advocate for those things so many Irish people hold dear - fairness, equity, due process, compassion - would be a huge magnet for votes, and would attract a huge transfer from those who will vote a Party No.1 but still be impressed by her CV.

    I've said for months I thought Mairéad McGuinness would stroll home, but if the above scenario is plays out, she is there to be beaten.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 73,414 ✭✭✭✭L1011


    Moscow Mick is saying he might run if Connolly doesn't.

    Slight issue there being that Connolly could easily get 20 nominations, and Mick might struggle to get one.

    Post edited by L1011 on


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 17,414 ✭✭✭✭elperello


    Actually he said he won't run if C Connolly does.

    Former MEP Mick Wallace won’t rule out presidential bid – but ‘certainly wouldn’t run’ if Catherine Connolly is on the ballot | Irish Independent https://share.google/hugd87iFd83fcCc4C

    I agree he would find it difficult to be nominated.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 73,414 ✭✭✭✭L1011


    Yes, I meant to write doesn't, quite the typo… Will edit now.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,086 ✭✭✭Burt Renaults


    I would've thought being mild-mannered would be a positive quality in the context of the role of President. It's also an advantage in the unseemly car crash of a televised debate. I remember Michael D. Higgins sort of sat back and quietly let them all destroy each other in 2011. Even more so during the 2018 election debates, when he (quite rightly) didn't dignify the clown show with his presence.

    Catherine Connolly is probably the closest we'll get to a continuation of the current hugely popular president. Very dignified, principled politician. Like Michael D, it's hard to imagine any decent person disliking her.



  • Moderators, Sports Moderators, Paid Member Posts: 30,095 Mod ✭✭✭✭Podge_irl


    it's hard to imagine any decent person disliking her.

    While I'm pretty open to the charge I'm not a decent person, her fondness for Russian backed astroturf "peace" movements, support for Al-Assad's Syrian government (under the guise of humanitarianism of course) and association with Wallace and Daly make it pretty easy for me to dislike her. Hell she took part in a "neutrality forum" with George Galloway of all people.

    I don't actually doubt her intentions, but he judgement is utterly appalling.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,080 ✭✭✭kabakuyu


    Catherine Connolly has her baggage.She is a mediocre local politician and then there is the question of her stance on Ukraine and Syria,there's also questions over her Co opting her sister to Galway CC.

    Besides all that I still like her,so I can still claim to be a decent sort😀 it's just that I don't think she'd make a good president and I think we should try to elect yhe best candidate for the sake of the country and the office of president.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 38,105 ✭✭✭✭Hotblack Desiato


    Do FF really think that Hanafin is electable?

    I'm partial to your abracadabra,

    I'm raptured by the joy of it all.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,084 ✭✭✭✭VinLieger


    The only person who thinks she is electable is herself, she's an egotistical narcissist.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,237 ✭✭✭Iscreamkone


    John Crown

    Fergus Finlay

    Alan Shatter



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 73,414 ✭✭✭✭L1011


    Shatter couldn't get nominated after his years of outburts.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,237 ✭✭✭Iscreamkone


    I agree that Shatter wouldn’t get nominated. Crown and Finlay probably wouldn’t either.

    That doesn’t mean they wouldn’t make a good President



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,101 ✭✭✭✭Beechwoodspark


    +1 to that. Saw her at close range over a week, a few years ago and my god, the sense of superiority and entitlement emanates off of her.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,101 ✭✭✭✭Beechwoodspark


    Aubrey number 1 fan is Aubrey himself. Loves the sound of his own voice.

    a spoofer who will be shown up big time if he actually gets on the ballot.

    Expect fireworks.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 73,414 ✭✭✭✭L1011


    Shatter has shown himself to have absolutely none of the qualities required to be a good president.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,101 ✭✭✭✭Beechwoodspark


    Mad Mickey Wallace has no hope

    Catherine Connolly - nice old lady and all- but is like a quiet little mouse who won’t stand the scrutiny.

    some rumblings seanie “FF bagman” gallagher might be on manoeuvres - 3rd time lucky !

    Hopefully Peter Casey gets on the ballot. Many would vote for him if he runs an anti “open borders free for all” immigration campaign, along with the anti PC NGO stuff.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,914 ✭✭✭✭Larbre34


    You're right about Aubrey McCarthy. He's another Joan Freeman. Someone for whom being the Billy Big Balls at a minor charity in the social sector has given him the idea that it ideally qualifies him to be Head of State, first citizen, and guardian of the Constitution.

    Aubrey, if you're out there, I'm here to tell you it does not.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,914 ✭✭✭✭Larbre34


    I know the woman for years, and I can tell you she is actually not. And I do know the difference.

    She is confident in herself, and in her mind, and that is justified in my view, but off-stage she is very self-effacing and a very good listener. She is also extremely pragmatic.

    However, I wouldn't vote for her, because she is socially very conservative, by 2025 standards at least. And I think that will count against her even in the nomination, let alone in the debates and on election day.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,237 ✭✭✭Iscreamkone




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 74,565 ✭✭✭✭FrancieBrady


    Alan Shatter

    I'd be thoroughly gobsmacked if we went from the country's foremost critic of Israel to the country's foremost apologist for Israel.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,451 ✭✭✭SupaCat95


    Arent Micheal Martin and Mary Hannafin both Opus Dei? if the calls comes from somewhere higher, it may not be Martins choice.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 73,414 ✭✭✭✭L1011


    What Presidential qualities do you think he has, then?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,087 ✭✭✭✭dulpit




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,929 ✭✭✭Oscar_Madison
    #MEGA MAKE EUROPE GREAT AGAIN


    As you rightly point out, neither Robinson nor McAleese were well known- their campaigns were very well run, and of course, helped along with some carefully crafted mud slinging from the side lines at certain other candidates making them stand out as the only realistic choice come election day.

    Absolutely no guarantee that a “well known” will have advantage over a blow in- in fact, when it comes to presidential elections it can be the opposite - familiarity does indeed breed contempt for some voters



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,084 ✭✭✭✭VinLieger


    Never heard this about either of them, when googling it related to hanafin all I found was vague accusations similar to your post and nothing regarding martin. With no concrete evidence its a wild claim to make.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,084 ✭✭✭✭VinLieger


    Probably not anywhere near as naive as Joan though, trying to hand wave away the herbalife connection was bonkers



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