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Deposit return scheme (recycling) - Part 2

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,554 ✭✭✭batistuta9


    Tesco's are full of staff, it's the 2 or 3 running around lidl & aldi that'd really notice it



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,805 ✭✭✭✭Murph_D


    Sorry if this has come up before, I don't want to read through 149 pages and the boards search function is useless for searching individual threads (I think - correct me if not).

    I've been in a couple of cafes lately where if you order a soft drink you have to pay the deposit. Are they supposed to offer to knock it off the bill if you return the container there and then? I'd imagine hardly anyone takes it with them. I know I should have asked at the time, but I didn't want to make a fuss and embarrass the teenagers. 🤣



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24 Gettin Auld


    Places that sell things can be exempt from accepting the returns, Mc Donald’s advertise it pretty well in their locations inside. I can’t remember the exact profit, but I think it’s something like a machine costs €28,000 and the return from it is something similar to 7c per 100 items. We ran the numbers in our store and it was 3 years before our individual store begins to profit from it. So it’s not viable for everywhere to have one.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24 Gettin Auld


    Some go thru just fine, and some are like dropping a spanner into a set of gears.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24 Gettin Auld


    You wouldn’t believe how many people reported significant wasp activity during the very warm weekends, all those smelly beer cans and so on really drew in the wasps.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24 Gettin Auld


    My opinion on Mandate is… mixed.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,690 ✭✭✭jj880


    Another great "feature" of Re-Turn. My father nearly died from anaphylaxis years ago due to a sting in the neck. Its dangerous as he didn't know he'd react badly as had never been stung.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 36,570 ✭✭✭✭odyssey06


    Probably take with you or leave as tip for staff.

    Very few will bother to take returns due to our large exemption size of 250 square metres.

    "To follow knowledge like a sinking star..." (Tennyson's Ulysses)



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,350 ✭✭✭✭kippy


    Does anyone know when this implementation/stats report is due out? I thought it was early July but no sign yet.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,075 ✭✭✭bog master


    If I recall correctly each item returned via RVM is worth 2.2 cent.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,293 ✭✭✭Genghis


    Error post



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,293 ✭✭✭Genghis


    About 4.55 on the Friday before August Bank Holiday. Ideally against the backdrop of an unfolding tragedy or scandal or celebrity death somewhere else in the news.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24 Gettin Auld


    You’re correct. I went and did some more reading and you are correct and I am wrong. It seems to vary from €0.022 to €0.026. I was genuinely told that it was 7c per 100 returns.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 23,250 ✭✭✭✭dxhound2005


    But it could take around 3 years for Tesco to recover the €15 million cost of installing the machines. A few months ago they reported 200 million returns in the first year. That would be €4.4 million from the 2.2 cents payments. It will probably be shorter though beacuse they were counting from February 2024, and the early months were low.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,075 ✭✭✭bog master


    Quite a difference eh? Valuable stuff them old cans.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 73,255 ✭✭✭✭L1011


    There's also a subsidy scheme for the first three years of low usage RVMs; something I suspect no Tesco has though!



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 23,250 ✭✭✭✭dxhound2005


    The subsidy is explained here, along with other information. From before the scheme.

    https://re-turn.ie/wp-content/uploads/2023/07/Retailer-Handling-Fees-Update-July-2023.pdf



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24 Gettin Auld


    A significant difference yes. It leads me to question it now if Tesco track it differently to recover their costs VS investment. Tesco said they invested €15,000,000 into their DRS machines. I don’t know, I’m not in management anymore and I’m just trying to think outside the bubble why my current Store Mnager told us those figures.

    Now that I know the figures, makes me think that hosting a house party now might become a part-time job…



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14 GarneyX


    In fairness, in my experience the machines have dramatically improved (probably due to software updates?) compared to the first few months of the scheme. Most machines were absolutely terrible in the beginning, you'd have to insert every bottle/can 4 or 5 times for it to be accepted, machines were going dead mid transaction and so on.



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