All Ireland Senior Hurling Championship 2025 (Munster And Leinster Championships,Liam McCarthy Cup)

Re the Sunday game, I'm not sure if Tom Morrissey, great hurler and all that, is going to prevent anyone from nodding off on a Sunday night.

Yep, social media team, scoreboard operators etc are all outside of the field of play in fairness.

Refs have enough to worry about without also having to watch that the crowd's scoreboard didn't change by accident. You've often got more than one scoreboard to watch, too. Fair play to any ref that stops the game and corrects it, but it's unreasonable for it to be their responsibility to monitor it.

It probably did affect the teams but in fairness Kilkenny had their chances and had their own lucky calls on the day. Very difficult to take when your team's on the losing side of things like that but "you make your own luck" as the saying goes.

Yeah but look how "timekeeping issues" in the drawn game then gave Clare the replay in 2013, doing Cork out of an AI.

And Limerick will feel that "timekeeping issues" in 2024 and 2025 against Cork cost them a AI Semi and a Munster Final.

So these things come around and every team gets their little bits of luck. Scrutinising every ref / umpire / official action is a waste of effort. Kilkenny would be better off focusing on what more they could have done to prevent the goals. They scored 30 times against Tipp's 24 scores. 30 scores or 30 points would be enough to win most semi finals, it's the concession of goals that cost them the game, realistically.

The ref can stop the game for all sorts of "fairness" reasons like if someone needs a new pair of boots. But it's also not his responsibility. I'd imagine that one of the players, umpires, managers, etc in the Munster final could have mentioned the scoreboard to the ref and he did a good thing, but let's not use that as a reason to replay this game.

Kilkenny's coaching and lack of depth from 1-7 lost them this one, not the man doing the scoreboard!

If it had been Dublin "wronged" against Cork the narrative here would be hugely different.

It's not the refs job in any official sense but I am surprised none of his team or Kilkenny noticed.

In general I think Kilkenny really needed to stop and take a breath a few times after the red. One of the big differences between this Kilkenny and the one with a shed load of All Irelands.

It's absolutely embarrassing. Anybody participating in this attempt to drum up furore over this nonsense should be ashamed of themselves.

Leaving aside the fact that:

1. People are presuming that not one person on the KK 15 or bench saw the umpire wave it wide. 40 people connected with KK must have been looking at the floor for the few seconds when a Tipp player took a shot in the 70th odd minute of an AI Semi Final.
2. That if they did see it (which obviously they did), that KK players/management/selectors/maor uisces are incapable of communicating with each other. What the hell were they doing?

The presumption then is:

1. Despite managing the extra man horrifically and making bad decision after bad decision for the previous 12-13 minutes, that KK would have then flicked a switch and played optimally and just knocked over as many points as they wanted.
2. That Tipperary, who were in the ascendancy for the previous 12-13 minutes, would have just sat in their own 20 metre line while KK just popped over leisurely points - thus not accepting the fact that Tipperary's approach was a direct response to how KK were playing the game. Tipp sat off and sat deep because they saw KK wanted goals. If KK wanted points Tipp would have pushed up and contested the middle of the pitch. When Tipp turned the ball over they would have had men higher up the pitch to score points. How many times did Tipp clearances go to KK players because they had everyone pulled back?

I also presume that we are only concerned about this scoreboard issue now and not the fact that:

1. Kilkenny had a blatant, absolutely stonewall red card not given. I presume we've just filed that away now and that never needs to be discussed again.
2. Tipperary were not awarded a single free in KK's half in the first half of the match despite their forwards being held, dragged and pulled under virtually every single ball whilst KK forwards were getting frees for significantly less. Tipp's HT total of 3-11 was entirely from play with not one single free.

Just need to also ignore the primary fact that after 74 minutes of play, Tipp won the match regardless of whatever scoreboard was used. A replay 😂, never heard such utter scutter in all my life.

Hear hear.

That's some size of a post for what was just "a piece of nonsense" 🤣

And the amount of posts that start off with" we're not complaining or appealing but...." . I don’t recall Shelly having to make one save of note yesterday. As for the Kilkenny defending, absolutely atrocities for two if not three of the Tipp goals.

What would have happened if KK got a last min goal, both teams preparing on the field for ET and the Ref heading off home...would tipp have a stronger case being dumped out thinking they were 3Pts ahead?

Well at least ye gave Dublin a hard game !

I'd say the ones rattled are yourselves, I mean ye're facing losing a 5th all Ireland in a row!

Dan do you realize you've almost single handedly kept the incorrect score keeping topic ticking over on here all day despite trying to claim there's nothing to discuss

He must be enjoying the summer holiday from school, hasn't stopped posting about it all day