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All Ireland Senior Hurling Championship 2025 (Munster And Leinster Championships,Liam McCarthy Cup)

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,003 ✭✭✭Archduke Franz Ferdinand


    Kilkenny l am sure won’t appeal the result. Tipp won fair and square, you can’t let in 4 goals and you spect to win, Richie reid and paddy Deegan made some terrible errors in the last minutes, Having all that said, l have a sense Kilkenny three this away with basic errors . And the fact that they thought they needed a goal to draw when they could have being going for points to draw had a massive bearing. The ref was poor also, not the first time either. But well done Tipp👍 a good young team that have nothing to lose no in the final



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,869 ✭✭✭realdanbreen




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 97 ✭✭Clare in Exile


    Watching the game on TV I actually said to my wife that the scoreboard was wrong, Tipp were only three ahead, not four (just after they scored their fourth goal). I was waiting for RTE to rectify it. That never happened, and the whirlwind finish saw Kilkenny chasing what they thought was a three point deficit. For those who say it made no difference, I totally disagree. TJ Reid was hunting for a goal when he could easily have tapped it over the bar if he had known they were actually only two points down. In an All-Ireland semi-final it's just not good enough.

    This explains why the officials were in a huddle at the end of the match deep in conversation. If that Kilkenny effort hadn't been cleared off the line we'd have been in a whole new world of trouble.

    Imagine the consternation if the stadium thought we were set for extra-time, only to be told that the scoreboard was incorrect and Kilkenny had actually won by a point?! Mayhem would have ensued.

    Which brings me to my final point - how did this actually happen? If the referee didn't award a point for that Tipp effort, and the umpire had actually waved it wide, then who decided that it was a point? Did the scoreboard operator just key in the point themselves? Do RTE just take their lead from the stadium scoreboard? Or is there a sideline official who inputs each score which then automatically appears on the scoreboard?

    All very messy, interesting to see what the official explanation is...



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,385 ✭✭✭Rebelbrowser


    yes, Brian Gavin, that well known Cork man. Jesus wept….



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 66 ✭✭Imeall an cearnóg


    How does initially dismissing the issue with Kilkenny should have known the real score anyway reconcile with this latest "additional point" that Tipp were impacted too?



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 7,478 ✭✭✭Allinall


    Apparently the sliotar hit the net behind the goal and the umpire put up his hand to catch it.

    Everyone assumed he was signalling for a point, despite the other umpire waving it wide.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 428 ✭✭New Scottman


    Problem is if a replay is granted, then Kilkenny will win.

    Easiest solution is to play All Ireland Final as normal & replay the semi final at a later stage “just to see” what could have happened.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,869 ✭✭✭realdanbreen


    The Examiner has been clickbait for years. They dropped Cork from the title to try and get more sales but you have to hit page 6 before coming to a non Cork related story.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 34,997 ✭✭✭✭The_Kew_Tour


    Not a hope of replay. Won't happen ever.

    EVENFLOW



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 868 ✭✭✭ECookie13


    It’s a bit odd how some Tipp supporters and posters seem so defensive and wound up over last night’s result. They appear more focused on rubbing it into Kilkenny than actually celebrating reaching a final.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 901 ✭✭✭Conversations 3


    I think they realise that may have been their final.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 66 ✭✭Imeall an cearnóg


    Kilkenny people don't want a replay in my opinion. Most are just reacting to Tipp posters scrambling to claim the mistake didn't matter, it's Kilkennys vault they didn't keep track of the score, Tipp were impacted too etc.

    Overall it is a monumental cock up that clearly impacted the game, but like other human errors it just has to accepted and steps put in place to help ensure it doesn't happen again



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,869 ✭✭✭realdanbreen


    So anyway, Cork are favourites for the all Ireland, as they were last year. We'll have to wait and see I guess.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 703 ✭✭✭Treble double


    The fact Cork aren't sure who they are playing yet will unsettle them🤣



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,869 ✭✭✭realdanbreen


    Cork could never lose 5 finals in a row, could they?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,396 ✭✭✭TheRiverman


    Move on, it's a Cork v Tipperary final. I am neutral and have no preference who wins.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 97 ✭✭Clare in Exile


    Had a look back and unbelievably what a previous poster said is spot on, it's exactly what happened. The umpire on the Hogan Stand side does indeed put his hand up to retrieve the sliotar while the other umpire waves it wide. Somehow both the RTE scoreboard and the stadium scoreboard have registered this as a point - are they both automatically linked together? Ger Canning and Michael Duignan both continue on commentary blissfully unaware of the mistake. It definitely affected Kilkenny's approach towards the end of the match.

    So the question now is who put that 'point' on the scoreboard? A person in some booth in Croke Park? Is the Croke Park stadium scoreboard automatically linked to the TV scoreboard? Does anybody know if the BBC scoreboard also registered it as a point?

    Or is it a sideline official who inputs the data into the scoreboard in real time?

    Bloody interesting to see how the hell it actually happened...



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 764 ✭✭✭C4000


    Whats interesting is that they had that discussion on the field.....and then James Owens went and input the incorrect score on the official system. His own tally must have been correct, so why input the incorrect score. S



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,837 ✭✭✭jacool


    I think its additional points that people do have an issue with, to be honest.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,869 ✭✭✭realdanbreen


    Who's in charge of doing the stats in the Kilkenny backroom team. Like checking the GPS , oh and writing down the score!



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,178 ✭✭✭newhouse87


    Anyway, cork will win by 5, a year or 2 early for this tipp team.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 901 ✭✭✭Conversations 3


    You have some hang up on Kilkenny.

    People are talking about who made the mistake and how it happened.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 111 ✭✭mercury16


    Did the scoreboard impact the game, absolutely it did, KK were working the ball forward looking for a goal they didn’t need, time and again. And had ample chances to makeup the two points.
    Do kk deserve the draw or a replay, no chance, We were poor, and have no doubts the better side won. And if the GAA said to replay it, we should refuse, we lost end off.

    GAA are lucky though… had we got that goal at the end, what would have happened then…. Everyone thinking a draw and the ref turning around and saying Tipp lost. Now that would definitely have been an issue.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,869 ✭✭✭realdanbreen


    Yeah I See Kilkenny are "moving on" alright!. Just listening to the chairman of their supporters club on newstalk calling on tipp to give them a replay!



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 34,997 ✭✭✭✭The_Kew_Tour


    Sadly yes we have to wait till Sunday 20th July.

    EVENFLOW



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,429 ✭✭✭C__MC


    GAA need to clarify this quickly or it will be a stain on the final. Owens I'm guessing had it right in his notebook. I wonder did one of his umpire also keep score. Perhaps he submitted the wrong result on the GAA website as GAA originally submitted the wrong result via SM. But either way, it needs to be cleared up.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 19,141 ✭✭✭✭Mantis Toboggan


    Powers that be might be better off looking at why kilkenny bottled the game yet again.

    Free Palestine 🇵🇸



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,146 ✭✭✭RoyalCelt




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 180 ✭✭HurlingBoy


    Error 1 - Croke Park scoreboard operator added a point that was waved wide.
    Error 2 - James Owen should have stopped the match and got the scoreboard corrected.

    Error 3 - Kilkenny management either stats man or manager should have flagged that the scoreboard was incorrect to the linesman

    This scenario has often happened over the years and most recently in the Munster Final and the referee stopped the game and got the scoreboard corrected.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,869 ✭✭✭realdanbreen


    The umpires didn't make any mistake, he waved the ball wide. The rookie mistake is thinking that an umpire raising his hand means it's a score!



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