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Immigration and Ireland - MEGATHREAD *Mod Note Added 14/08/25*

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,159 ✭✭✭✭Francie Barrett


    @Leg End Reject

    Is this not link dumping?

    Why have you not banned this person yet?

    Mod Edit: Warned for arguing with moderation on thread

    Post edited by Necro on


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,259 ✭✭✭mrslancaster


    Very surprised to see tents along the canal again, also some on Pearse and Tara streets and along the AlfieByrne road.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 117 ✭✭Paddy_Mag


    Why, it seems to be govt policy to encourage this.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,124 ✭✭✭Mike Murdock


    Several reports in the Irish Media (RTE.ie, Irish Indo) never even mentioned it was comments by that specific Activist-"Journalist" that caused the lawsuit in the first place.

    Circling the wagons to protect their own.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,291 ✭✭✭prunudo


    Can't help but think there is a game being played here, and its being facilitated by the ngo's. By all accounts, numbers are down so we should have more accommodation available for them this year, are the guys claiming they homeless, knowing they'll be given tents and then hoping to game the system and be bumped up the list to better accommodation.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,939 ✭✭✭donaghs


    Roderic OGorman springs to mind. I’ve heard him on radio in recent years saying something like details taken out of context or something like that. But it was reported at the time that direct provision would be ended and asylum seekers would get their own front door key accomodation.

    • and be able to work!

    https://m.independent.ie/irish-news/asylum-seekers-will-get-keys-to-their-own-homes-and-will-be-able-to-work-policy-to-end-direct-provision-revealed/40133273.html

    Post edited by donaghs on


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,118 ✭✭✭Patrick2010


    Within 4 months of arrival it was planned, no wonder we have so many. No doubt we'll soon see some NGO taking a case to the high court on behalf of the newly arrived canal dwellers claiming we're in breach of European law by not giving them immediate accommodation .



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,636 ✭✭✭Mr. teddywinkles


    Came into heathrow last week. No passport cheak at all. Is that normal for the uk?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,465 ✭✭✭alias no.9


    Flying from Ireland to the UK, it's normal to go through the domestic arrivals channel which doesn't involve a passport/ ID check. They will ask one of the first people off the plane / bus from the apron for their boarding pass to confirm it's a 'domestic' flight.

    There is no segregation of domestic / international arrivals in any Irish airport so everyone gets checked for passport or ID upon arrival in Ireland.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,409 ✭✭✭RobbieTheRobber


    This thread is hilarious.

    We should fear the left in Ireland.

    But also be more like the left in Denmark who haven't yet turned the country in a communist hell hole.

    So the parties of the left can govern other countries but not in Ireland.

    Most self proclaimed free speech absolutists are giant big whiny snowflakes!



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,394 ✭✭✭✭briany


    @Headshot

    Why can't we follow Denmark? No.. This government just rather destroy communities by taking away their only hotels in their locality.

    If the Denmark model is so good and sensible, it shouldn't be too difficult for a new party to set up under those principles and clean up electorally. It would certainly be easier than waiting for the current government to change tack.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,458 ✭✭✭enricoh


    A government of left leaning parties in Ireland would be the dream ticket for the refugee industry here. No deportations, Roderick back tweeting about own door accommodation in 4 months, etc etc

    Unfortunately for Denmark they don't have the handy pot of gold Ireland has in the form of corporation tax to squander.

    They made Denmark unattractive of asylum seekers n numbers plummeted. Our politicians did the opposite and our numbers skyrocketed.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 975 ✭✭✭For Petes Sake


    Ashling Murphy’s partner Ryan Casey settles action against BBC

    https://www.irishtimes.com/crime-law/courts/2025/07/03/ashling-murphys-partner-ryan-casey-settles-action-against-bbc/


    How does it feel to be a liar?

    And before you say anything they had a push notification out before RTÉ did.

    Doesn’t fit your narrative of the media covering up though, does it?

    Genuinely amazes me that people can spread filthy lies like this and just shrug their shoulders when they’re caught in their lies.

    Mod Edit: Warned for attacking the poster

    Post edited by Necro on


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,939 ✭✭✭donaghs


    ”Left” and “right” aren’t very meaningful anymore - as I’m sure you know. Unless you are referring to traditional left or right policies.

    What exactly is your point? Beyond some kind of sneer.
    We have parties in Ireland and Denmark both identity as “left” who seemed to have very different policies and talking points.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 616 ✭✭✭Marcos


    I'd like to see her sued by him personally, for her remarks. That would soften her cough.

    When most of us say "social justice" we mean equality under the law opposition to prejudice, discrimination and equal opportunities for all. When Social Justice Activists say "social justice" they mean an emphasis on group identity over the rights of the individual, a rejection of social liberalism, and the assumption that unequal outcomes are always evidence of structural inequalities.

    Andrew Doyle, The New Puritans.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,080 ✭✭✭conorhal


    Well Ireland had the chance to do so and vote for Aontu led by the very capable Peadar Tobin, instead we bottled it, chosing instead to re-elect the same people that caused this problem to fix the problem.

    I've come to agree with Marianne LePen's comment that, 'left and right' are the defunct paradigms of an out of date political order, the new political divide emerging in Europe is between 'globalism and nationalism'. Allowing our institutions in Europe to demonize nationalism (undermined to pad an expansion of Brussel's grip) has been a disaster that has allowed the globalists to wreak havoc and reduce the notion of a 'citizen' down to a PPS number to be pickpocketed by a gravy train of corporate interests. The establishment right won't save you any more than the left will, they are both completely infected by globalism.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 616 ✭✭✭Marcos


    Where are they coming from? I saw some Somalian on Twitter / X saying that they came from Sweden! Surely that should be grounds for immediate deportation as they have already claimed asylum elsewhere?

    Mod Edit: Warned for ignoring mod instruction regarding anecdotes

    Post edited by Necro on

    When most of us say "social justice" we mean equality under the law opposition to prejudice, discrimination and equal opportunities for all. When Social Justice Activists say "social justice" they mean an emphasis on group identity over the rights of the individual, a rejection of social liberalism, and the assumption that unequal outcomes are always evidence of structural inequalities.

    Andrew Doyle, The New Puritans.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,783 ✭✭✭ericzeking


    Would there be a legal reason why the journalist who made the comments is not named in that article? The sentiment of the original post is not so wrong as to warrant your tone. There is most certainly obfuscation.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,394 ✭✭✭✭briany


    Le Pen is a crook giving a very reductive view of the world in that case. Both nationalism and globalism can have bad outcomes if taken to extremes. We in Europe should know better than anyone what happens when nationalism goes out of control, and we'd all be wise not to allow fear of globalism whip us all right back into that situation.

    A middle way would be preferable where you can have the good trade aspects of globalism while still being able to prevent huge demographic changes in short spaces of time.



  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 42,943 CMod ✭✭✭✭ancapailldorcha


    My gripe with the left and right being outdated trope is that it's always just an excuse for people to have a go at "the left". It never precedes any criticism of ethnic nationalists or ethnic nationalism such as is dominant in the USA right now and is on the march in France, Germany, etc…

    The foreigner residing among you must be treated as your native-born. Love them as yourself, for you were foreigners in Egypt. I am the LORD your God.

    Leviticus 19:34



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,167 ✭✭✭bilbot79


    Some stuff around elegibility for social housing



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,117 ✭✭✭jackboy


    Doubt he will bother. He seems to be focusing on the bigger picture rather than going after individuals, which is the mistake she made. There was a massive media pile on at the time against anyone who even hinted that there could be an issue with immigration policy. It was in that climate she felt she could go after him.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,700 ✭✭✭Stephen_Maturin


    Looks like I was mistaken, I did google “Ryan Casey Irish Times” in both search and the news tab and nothing came up 🤷‍♂️

    Why would I bother “lie” about something that is so easily verifiable? Anyway you appear to be rather distressed about this so I do apologise for upsetting you

    I will note however that they do fail to mention in their report that the comments were made by their own journalist Kitty Holland - I wouldn’t regard that as giving the full picture, take from that what you will



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,102 ✭✭✭Sunny Disposition


    There is a bit of truth in that. As it goes on it seems that people are looking at left and right as if one was Celtic and one was Rangers and everything from the 'wrong' side is evil and your own side has a monopoly on being correct. Social media has been a big factor in an increase in this awful thinking.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,700 ✭✭✭Stephen_Maturin


    https://www.irishtimes.com/ireland/social-affairs/2025/07/04/im-so-scared-families-left-in-limbo-after-being-told-they-need-to-leave-ipas-centres/

    Do these people just expect to live at the taxpayers expense for their entire lives?

    It’s not like they weren’t notified of this well in advance.
    Rent a room in a damp shithole with other randomers at eye watering rates like the rest of us - welcome to Ireland

    Leave it to IT to give them the appeal to emotion headline and platform for the sob story, rather than some critical analysis of how they got this far without ever considering they may want to support themselves and contribute at some point?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,117 ✭✭✭jackboy


    It's the inevitable outcome of a housing crises and taking in large numbers of poorly educated asylum seekers at the same time. The vast majority of them will never have the finances to compete for the tiny amount of available accommodation.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,700 ✭✭✭Stephen_Maturin


    Micheál Martin admits that the huge (migration fuelled) population growth is what is underpinning our housing crisis and the enormous strain on our services

    ““I acknowledge that our population has gone up by one-third in two decades. That’s what’s creating the pressure on services, creating huge demand on housing, but also on health services, education services. But there’s something to reflect on that we’re now, for the first time since the famine, over seven million people. To me, that’s an extraordinary achievement by modern Ireland. It should be seen as an achievement.”

    https://www.irishtimes.com/politics/2025/07/04/ireland-is-not-anti-semitic-taoiseach-rejects-criticism-from-veteran-us-senator/

    He sees this as an achievement though? Only a homeowner, and a millionaire multiple property owner at that could make such an extraordinarily out of touch statement. Honestly sickening.

    “Yeah the country’s gone to crap and is getting worse, but I’m alright Jack and look! The people number is going up! So it’s all great really.”



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 56,018 ✭✭✭✭Headshot


    "An achievement" what an insult to the Irish citizen

    My god this man is just tone deaf to the struggles of the working class while he sits upon his ivory tower.

    How can this be an "achievement" when Irish citizens are competing against inward migration for housing, for health care, for education. We just don't have any chance

    Our little country has only finite resources and bringing more people in via legal or AS is just putting gas on the fire



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 16,762 ✭✭✭✭Goldengirl


    Yesterday's paper they have the full story ?

    You must have missed it .

    Here it is

    Ashling Murphy’s partner Ryan Casey settles action against BBC

    https://www.irishtimes.com/crime-law/courts/2025/07/03/ashling-murphys-partner-ryan-casey-settles-action-against-bbc/

    Edit . I see you have apologized further up the page there for that misleading post so fair enough .

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,394 ✭✭✭✭briany


    If you think immigration is bad now, wait until you see what happens as average global temperatures continue to rise and force hundreds of millions out of lands that become essentially uninhabitable.



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