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this has me foxed. What's the logic having a hospital appointment for a procedure and wait for ages.

  • 29-06-2025 07:48PM
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    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,879 ✭✭✭


    Not sure if this is a consumer issue but I'm baffled. I was booked in for a procedure timed 12.30 pm, be there by 12.20, 8 weeks in advance. Did as instructed but was not seen until 3pm. I did query when seen but all I got was a sheepish sorry. I was in agony by the way and could not leave. The procdure was 5 mins tops plus recovery but that's another story.

    This was private with LAYA.

    Laya cant do anything as its hospital procedure and out of their hands.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 737 ✭✭✭HazeDoll


    Because they would rather waste two and a half hours of your time than risk wasting a minute of their own.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,376 ✭✭✭gipi


    Consultant \ surgeon was called to an emergency or delayed by a previous procedure perhaps? Procedure room wasn't available on time for some unforeseen reason?

    Just a couple of possibilities



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,937 ✭✭✭✭Larbre34


    If you were booked in at 12.30 and they didn't see you until, oh I dunno, September say, then you might be looking at some sort of recompense.

    But a couple of hours?

    Forget about it and move on with your life lad, its simply not worth it.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,155 ✭✭✭JVince


    Imagine if your 5 minute procedure took 30 min and the consultant only allowed 5 minutes for you in his/her schedule?(btw, I don't think there is any 5 minute procedure in any hospital as the very basic safety checks take longer- so your post alraedy shows the type of person the hospital is dealing with)

    You now have a multiple choice question.

    Option 1 - Consultant stops everything and leaves you in limbo until he/she can come back to you as he/she has someone else scheduled for 12.50pm and can't be late or else this other person will moan about it on a discussion forum and make a complaint.

    Option 2 - Consultant hits the 5 minute mark. Procedure not completed, so sends you home and tells you to make another appointment and notes down that 15 minutes is required. This ensures subsequent patients are not delayed and therefore will not make a complaint about timekeeping - sure who cares if such a decision is medical negligence once patients are seen at their exact time as that takes all priority

    Option 3 - Consultant sees that the simple procedure has a small complication that could not have been picked up previously and thus requires 30-45min to ensure you recover quickly and well and don't have to have the procedure repeated. This may delay afternoon patients by a an hour or so, but consultant will not rush things as they take pride and care in their medical work and it is far more important for patients to get great care than to be worried about someone complaining they might be delayed by an hour or two

    Please choose one of the options.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,826 ✭✭✭Xterminator


    Hi OP

    But you cant compare the time a procedure takes to how a GP manages their surgery. GPs are often contacted and try to squeeze in 'urgent' cases next and same day. Some patients try to squeeze in a second consult or ask can we change my medication etc, that cause GP visits to run over.

    Not many consultants would be squeezing in extra patients or operating on a second issue. The 'squeeze' is the waiting lists where health service is understaffed. Sometimes appointments have to be cancelled and again this could be staffing related, or a more urgent issue might have bumped you down.

    When you are brought in and seen to, but consultatant is running late, that is less likely to be a staffing issue. Your conflating the 2 issues. I reccomend you dont dismiss alternative point of views as smartass, and take on board the valid points. Even fully private hospitals and clinics experince this issue.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 27,118 ✭✭✭✭Strumms


    the hospital department that I’m a patient of are notorious for keeping people waiting an age. All the google reviews slate them.

    None of the consultants carry out surgical procedures. I’ve had first thing AM appointments and been left sitting there 50 minutes. On one occasion they all arrived en masse about 30 minutes after my scheduled appointment and only then started seeing people. It all looked a bit leisurely, arriving with cups of tea / coffee in hand and of course, no thoughts of an apology or brief explanation once we started the conversation…



  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Arts Moderators, Sports Moderators, Paid Member Posts: 53,419 CMod ✭✭✭✭magicbastarder


    Even if I go to my local GP for a 4:30 appointment, I wont be seen til at least 5, has happened on 2 occassions in the past month!

    This is why I always try to get morning appointments if visiting the GP. Less time for their schedule to have gone out of whack .



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,453 ✭✭✭Trampas


    I’ve had a procedure once that was meant to be a few minutes but I know when he was still going 10 minutes later it was a bigger job than originally thought when he cut me open. Can happen. On waiting I just wish someone would come over and say they’re running a bit behind schedule and going to be an extra 30 minutes or 2 hours etc. at least you know than sitting there scrolling on your phone waiting for a door to open or head to lift. If it’s reasonable time you could go for a walk or what not. Would they be some accommodating if you arrived 30 minutes late?



  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Arts Moderators, Sports Moderators, Paid Member Posts: 53,419 CMod ✭✭✭✭magicbastarder


    it's handy enough for me, to be fair. the GP is 150m away and i work from home. not everyone has that option.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,614 ✭✭✭Sconsey


    Option 4 - The department tell people to arrive way earlier then the scheduled time of procedure because they want to have a queue of patients waiting so that hospital staff are not hanging around waiting.

    Option 5 - There were some unexpected delays but the staff are not trained/bothered in effective communication so they leave patients waiting anxiously for hours with feck-all information, maybe they are too busy and the department need to hire a communication person.

    Option 6 - There are many other possibilities and it is stupid to identify a few preferred options and limit the OP to choosing one.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 317 ✭✭Orban6


    With me it was incompetence by staff that delayed my appointment by at least 4 hrs.

    Went to the desk in the waiting room and introduced myself by showing my appointment letter. Was told to take a seat. After about 3 hours, somebody asked me and a few others who we were waiting to see.

    Another hr passed and we were asked again.

    Turns out that the consultant we were there for had his own waiting room just down the passage!!!!🤬



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,852 ✭✭✭horse7


    Earliest appointment for shoulder surgery privately is December, and that's just for a consultation.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,937 ✭✭✭✭Larbre34




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,087 ✭✭✭endofrainbow


    Have you not got a mouth on you ? After 30 mins I'd be asking.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 398 ✭✭pjdarcy


    I've seen this before where a consultant only had two appointment times per day. One appointment time for all of their morning patients and a second for their afternoon patients. I queried it with the secretary and she said it was because so many people don't turn up, it's more efficient for the consultant to have everyone come at the same time. That way they can just work through the list of patients and recover some time at the end rather than having gaps in their workday when certain patients didn't arrive for an appointment at a specific time.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 26,658 ✭✭✭✭Mrs OBumble


    This. The health system is not organised for your convenience.

    Tis kinda funny seeing this in Consumer Issues. You are not a customer, you are a patient.

    The customer is the funder, ie the government (or the insurance companies in private healthcare.) Maximising use of expensive resources like doctors is the goal of funders.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,947 ✭✭✭kowloonkev


    And less chance of them doing a rush job before quitting time.

    Simon Harris is monitoring the situation...



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,952 ✭✭✭daheff


    not so sure its necessarily a staffing issue. more a poor scheduling issue.

    If for example a dentist knows your check up and clean takes 15 mins ,then he should only book 4 people per hour for check ups & cleans. Most likely they'll try squeeze a 5th appointment in to maximise throughput as there is demand. but unfortunately it seems that they regularly over book and then over run on appointments.



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