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The 2025 All Ireland Senior Football Championship (Sam Maguire Cup)

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,735 ✭✭✭paddyisreal


    they played in 2023. complete different Tyrone set up also now both on and off the pitch, malachy o rourke is as clever as they come and there will be nothing in it.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,147 ✭✭✭threeball


    Thats the same in every other county. Theres masses of passion and selflessness. Theres also kids who do nothing but kick a football or swing a hurl 12hrs a day but what's not there is tradition and perhaps quality of coaching. I dont know what's thats like in Kerry, was never at a club training session or had a coach from Kerry. Everything else is no different than it is in other counties.

    Belief is a huge thing and unquantifiable. My own county has a serious lack of it in both codes. We go in hope more than belief. Its quite possible had we beaten Limerick in 2018 in the hurling that we may never have seen that Limerick team reach the levels they did because the belief wouldn't have been there. Just another all ireland lost in a county lacking in belief as much as my own.

    Dublin believed they were going to beat everyone for at least 8 of that 10 year run. Others just hoped.

    Once counties with tradition like Kerry, Dublin, KK get on top of you its very easy to cave in psychologically. We saw it in action at the weekend where Monaghan and Armagh wilted once the traditional superpower got on top.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,735 ✭✭✭paddyisreal


    Kerry playing out of Munster is probably one of the biggest advantages they have. practically guaranteed to be seeded and in a quarter final every year. if they were playing out of Ulster the last 30 years they would not of won half of the all Ireland's they did.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,955 ✭✭✭50HX


    Pre championship restructuring in the 00's I would say they same amount of titles.

    I fail to see how this narrative of its harder to win an all ireland if you are an ulster team for example



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,050 ✭✭✭WesternZulu


    Do you honestly think that The Troubles and border had no effect on all Ulster teams ability to win All-Ireland’s?

    There were far more important things to consider than football for most northern teams for most of the GAAs existence.

    To suggest Kerry would have won as many titles if they were positioned in the North is not based on any real world scenario and very dismissive of the realities of the North. Did Kerry have Garda hassling them on the way to training and games? A whole half of their population who despised everything about the GAA?

    It’s no wonder nordies think we’re completely ignorant of the realities of life up there since partition.

    Post edited by WesternZulu on


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,007 ✭✭✭ledwithhedwith


    No idea , 1 win in 10 seems poor enough for this mystically skilled county.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 31,133 ✭✭✭✭breezy1985


    It's the 3rd biggest sponsorship deal in GAA. That definitely matters.

    It's only one part of the story though. They also have a decent population, big playing numbers, little competition from other sports, massive buy in from that large playing/supporting/coaching base to draw on. Kerry have all the buildings blocks and deserve credit for consistently getting the best from that.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2 dankerry


    Anyone know what time semi final tickets go on sale?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 75,623 ✭✭✭✭FrancieBrady


    All-Ireland Senior Football Championship semi-final fixtures:

    Saturday 12 July

    Tyrone v Kerry, Croke Park, 5pm.

    Sunday 13 July

    Meath v Donegal, Croke Park, 4pm.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,429 ✭✭✭C__MC


    That may have been Gavins finest feat. He really made a dublin a sticky opponent for kerry. Mind you kerry had owned the rivarly in the 70s and 90s and noughties. Gavin turned it on its head.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,303 ✭✭✭✭event


    Big Jim will be moaning about one less day of rest if they get to the final.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2 dankerry


    It's tomorrow, Tuesday. 12pm for kerry tyrone. 2pm for donegal meath



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,806 ✭✭✭Westernview


    Are there any other games in Croke Park on the Saturday? Kerry and Tyrone may struggle to geta big crowd.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 75,623 ✭✭✭✭FrancieBrady




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,621 ✭✭✭tobefrank321


    Numerous reasons why Kerry are succcessful.

    1. They win at least once every ten years, so if you make it onto a Kerry team you are virtually assured of an AI medal. That motivation doesn't apply to most other counties. Although Tailtean Cup should help.

    2. They don't have a county board trying their best to undermine progress as happens in some other counties such as Mayo.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,955 ✭✭✭50HX


    Glad you got that off your chest, can you provide a similar summary for Connacht & Leinster then as well please.

    This discussion could easily go down a rabbit hole, let bring population decline into the mix as well, location of multi nationals...bottomless conversation tbh.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,868 ✭✭✭snowgal


    oops, I must be in the Kerry thread……..



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,050 ✭✭✭WesternZulu


    Very easily. Connacht and Leinster isn't dominated by hurling.

    The lengths Kerry supporters go to try and argue against that being in Munster has skewed the odds in favour of winning all-ireland's is laughable. There was someone trying to say it's all about young lads spending 1000s of hours practicing kicking a ball against a wall…as if no one else in the country thought that practicing skills is important.

    The simple fact is that being in Munster has been the biggest single contributor to Kerry’s success



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,767 ✭✭✭downthemiddle


    You keep banging your drum of ignorance and ignoring what he actually says in your failed attempt to appear clever on the internet.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,955 ✭✭✭50HX


    Yerra tis a great feeling to win all them handy all irelands tbf

    18% of kerrys all irelands have been won since 2000.

    In the same period in hurling a leinster team has won 54% of the all irelands, higher if you include Galways win as a leinster team



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 426 ✭✭New Scottman


    what happens if both Tyrone and Donegal win? Presume avoiding repeat pairings doesn't apply for the final?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,050 ✭✭✭WesternZulu


    Yerra you’ve just proved my point.

    Before 2000 Kerry won 30% of the football All-Ireland’s going. That rate looks to have reduced significantly since the group format has come in. Proving they had it handy in Munster.

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,767 ✭✭✭downthemiddle


    They meet on Lifford bridge and last man standing wins.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 75,623 ✭✭✭✭FrancieBrady


    The Nordie haters will march on Croke Park HQ demanding something or other.😁



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,621 ✭✭✭tobefrank321


    If they win this year its 8 AIs in 26 years, or just over one every three years, which is a better or similar rate than 1887 - 1999 (31 in 113 years).

    There was no AI final in 1888, Kerry boycotted 1910 final, and the various wars meant they barely tried from 1919-1922.

    They do have a knack of picking up handy AIs though when all the other big counties fail to perform. Some very handy AIs against Mayo, Cork and Galway in recent decades .



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,955 ✭✭✭50HX


    Yip you are right, its skewed towards us.

    All a big conspiracy....i thought kerry would have more won but if that was the case the cat would be out if the bag



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,572 ✭✭✭✭castletownman


    The six-in-a-row Dublin team had three 'handy' All Ireland wins against Mayo, and once more at the start of their run, who out-Mayo'd themselves it seems each year.

    Couldn't have it handier than that.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,134 ✭✭✭RoyalCelt


    This is correct.

    If cork focused mainly on football very would have won a lot less considering most years it was knockout. If Tipp, Limerick, Waterford and Clare were football mad instead of hurling mad Kerry likewise would have won far far less Munsters in the straight knockout era.

    Not Kerry's fault it's just reality. That situation meant they reached the semis more then anyone else in Ireland and that ultimately leads to huge AI level experience and success which creates the culture we see today.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,145 ✭✭✭orangerhyme


    The biggest single contributor is our passion, culture, history, tradition. Nothing else.

    If Gooch or Clifford had been born in another county they wouldn't have practiced as much, they might have put their focus into another sport or they may have emigrated. They may not have even played GAA.

    That's it really.

    I know kids in other counties practice lots, but not every kid. Probably over 90% of boys put their focus into Gaelic Football.

    Our playing population is just about big enough also to keep us consistently competitive.

    But at the same time, Kerry's success comes in cycles of 10/15 years. At the moment we're in a strong cycle but have only won 1 AI in 10 years.

    We may not even win this year or the next few years. Lots of strong counties at the moment. Tyrone are a coming force definitely as they're winning everything underage.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,134 ✭✭✭RoyalCelt


    Kerry challenged the Dubs. 2011 Kerry would have won with a fair referee. 347 steps for the goal. 2013 Kerry challenged Dublin in the semi but lost fair and square. Donegal challenge Dublin in 2014 and would have in 2012 if needed. Kerry again didn't exactly disappear after 2014 either.

    The Dublin period was fairly boring but they had worthy challengers in Donegal, Kerry and Mayo.



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