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The 2025 All Ireland Senior Football Championship (Sam Maguire Cup)

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  • Posts: 0 ✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Beaten well enough on day 2 though with Dublin's second half performance. You never got a second chance against that Dublin team (rarely got a first chance). Like I say, I don't think they really had a handle on that Dublin team under Gavin at all, not in tactics or strength and conditioning or even in-game management.

    Teams really struggle to do back to back at the best of times. Shows how remarkable Dublin's achievement was.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 3,099 ✭✭✭Oíche Na Gaoithe Móire


    In Kilkenny every young lad has a hurl with him. Now they get beat because other counties have plenty of hurling areas. But like Kerry, their game is number 1 and a religion.

    Imagine Maurice Fitz with the new game! Matty Forde and Ja Fallon are others who come to mind. Nice to see long range points rewarded.

    'Where have you gone Joe DiMaggio? A nation turns It's lonely eyes to you.'



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 3,099 ✭✭✭Oíche Na Gaoithe Móire


    Al the great teams learn from draws, and win big replays.

    Kilkenny v Galway 2012, v Tipp 2014.

    Dublin 2016 v Mayo and v Kerry 2019.

    'Where have you gone Joe DiMaggio? A nation turns It's lonely eyes to you.'



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 3,099 ✭✭✭Oíche Na Gaoithe Móire


    In rugby parlance that Dublin team was like South Africa, got the job done repeatedly.

    Kerry, New Zealand, a bit more flair!

    'Where have you gone Joe DiMaggio? A nation turns It's lonely eyes to you.'



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,145 ✭✭✭orangerhyme


    Hurling is spreading in Kerry also so people should be worried.

    The secret to Kerry's success is just passion, tradition, practice, knowhow, experience, football IQ etc...

    It all adds up.

    But at the same time, we've only won 1 AI in 10 years. So we're only human.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,497 ✭✭✭munster87


    Tony Brosnan too. Started the Armagh game last year.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 20,721 ✭✭✭✭Bass Reeves


    Armagh had a sweeper inside the arc covering DC a lot of the time. The nèw rules have a maximum of 11 defenders Instead of 14. All thus creates space. SOS was the main Kerry player that managed to use that space in tge first half. However throughout the game look at the list of Kerry scorers.

    O Beaglaoigh, Gavin White, Graham O Sullivian , Micheal Burns got two each. You cannot be getting two players on SOS all thevtime when you have 2 on Clifford.

    Tyrone will adapt to that by using a different set up

    Slava Ukrainii



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 695 ✭✭✭eastie17


    that’s not unique to Kerry, plenty of young lads do that in other counties



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,145 ✭✭✭orangerhyme


    I'm sure they do.

    But we all do it.

    Maybe it's different now cos there's so many distractions.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,145 ✭✭✭orangerhyme


    McCambridge was marking Clifford on his own most of the game.

    But even if you watch the highlights, SOS is lining up a shot and the Armagh lads are just standing off him. They should be diving on his boot or just putting him off at least.

    Watch SOS's first 2 pointer even. 2 Armagh lads just watching him.

    It makes no sense.

    SOS will kick those over all day long. It's just shooting practice for him.

    You don't need to double mark him.

    He's a very good footballer but isn't lightning quick, so isn't that hard to mark.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,050 ✭✭✭WesternZulu


    All this talk about Kerry and football being a religion and how much they practice makes them so much better is a bit condescending. It’s a religion in Mayo and plenty of other places. It’s not if young lads in other countries don’t practice for 1000’s of hours.

    The elephant in the room is that they’re blessed to be in a province that is all hurling. That has allowed them to foster a winning tradition throughout the history of the GAA that isn’t so easy to replicate in other counties.

    It’s admirable what they do but you can’t ignore that being in Munster has helped them. Would they have won as many All-Ireland’s if they were in any other province, I don’t think they would.

    They are nonetheless incredibly well coached and it still takes work to build the culture they have developed.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,007 ✭✭✭ledwithhedwith




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,007 ✭✭✭ledwithhedwith


    Jaysis it was a great 2nd half performance in a quarter final, everyone waxing lyrical about a county who have won once in 10 years 😂😂😂



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,145 ✭✭✭orangerhyme


    Munster having hurling counties is no real advantage.

    Mayo only have Galway as rivals to win Connaught yet they win nothing.

    Our neighbors are a dual county with more than 3 times our population.

    It's culture and tradition and obsession which makes us good.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,155 ✭✭✭✭pgj2015


    Anyone know when the semi final tickets go on sale?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,956 ✭✭✭50HX


    If you are talking about GAA tradition 4 games could win you an all ireland( 3 in some cases) no matter what provence you were in.

    On the flipside of being in munster. We have often gotten to croker & being cold as a result.

    Nothing beats matches & would imagine its far harder to peak in training without competitive games esp in the 00's. Hopefully not as much now but yesterday was our first Div1 side to play against since the league



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,007 ✭✭✭ledwithhedwith




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,429 ✭✭✭C__MC


    Tyrone will definitely lean on their wins over kerry in History etc. But kerry in fairness have settled a few scores mainly in 19 and 23, easy enough wins. 21 was a bad loss. I dare say it but I'd say kerry are delighted dublin are gone, they have a shockingly poor record since 2011 with them. The new rules are a game changer for kerry, mainly because of space and kicking ability. It very much suits their style. Having Niall Morgan in goal will help Tyrone, Rafferty imploded yesterday, Morgan is a more rounded keeper. I don't think kerry will win as much as they did yesterday but I'd say 4 or 5 points will be enough.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,050 ✭✭✭WesternZulu


    It’s a huge advantage for Kerry.

    Mayo have had Roscommon too to contend with. Anyway, throughout most of the GAA’s history Mayo, and Connacht in general, has been ravaged by emigration. More so than other parts of the country.

    Hard to build a winning football tradition in such an environment,



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,145 ✭✭✭orangerhyme


    It's not but lots of finals and semi finals though.

    2013 - semi

    2014 - won

    2015 - final

    2016 - semi

    2017 - semi

    2018 - bad year

    2019 - final

    2020 - bad year

    2021- semi

    2022- won

    2023 - final

    2024 - semi

    2025 - semi so far.

    So in last 13 years, we've reached the semis at least 11 times. Only won twice though.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,050 ✭✭✭WesternZulu


    Simple question, do you think Kerry would have more or less All-Irelands if they were in another province?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,898 ✭✭✭robbiezero


    The 2 pointer from SOS on the 29th minute. It is just bizarre how casual the Armagh defenders are in trying to stop it. At this point I think he has six points scored and surely by that stage they have copped that he is a bit of a threat. I think it is Conaty that is happily watching him from 5 yards inside the arc,



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 31,145 ✭✭✭✭breezy1985


    "Passion and tradition" is a bit lazy an answer.

    Kerry always seems to be a very well run county. Never much in the way of controversy and don't seem to ever fall behind in terms of sports science or preparation (maybe not true anymore). There is also plenty of money in the county and for a long time now Kerry GAA have had one of the biggest sponsorship deals in the sport.

    All the success aslo means the seem to have had a conveyor of good candidates ready to step up and manage the senior team.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,007 ✭✭✭ledwithhedwith


    Yeah to be fair, it's just your writing about kerry doesn't really correlate with any mad recent success



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,649 ✭✭✭✭Fr Tod Umptious


    It's far more to do with just being in an "easy" province.

    If Kerry football developed in another province in the past 125+ years like it did in Munster, they would still be winning lots of All Irelands.

    If I took a radius of 10miles from the place I'm originally from in central Mayo I'd probably find 5 football clubs.

    If I did the same 10miles radius from where I live now in central Kerry I'd probably find 10 clubs.

    Take Castlebar for instance.

    It has one club in the town (Mitchells) and a one just outside (Breaffy)

    Then take Tralee, which admittedly is a little bigger than Castlebar, it has 4 clubs in the town (Stacks, Mitchells, KOR, NaGeal) at least three just outside (St Pats Blennerville, Ballymac, Churchill)

    Killarney has three clubs in the town and a few more along the edges.

    There is just so much football being played, and that matters.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,145 ✭✭✭orangerhyme


    It's not a huge advantage.

    I'd prefer more competition.

    Roscommon has football tradition but they've a population of 70,000.

    Cork's nearly 600,000.

    Has more GAA clubs that any other county.

    Kerry's still being ravaged by emigration.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,050 ✭✭✭WesternZulu


    My point is that conveyor belt of good candidates stems from geographic luck as much as it does from sports science, coaching etc.

    Being a big county in Munster that concentrates predominantly on football meant than from the early days in GAA they had the odds in their favour to build a platform. Young Kerry lads saw their teams winning. This made it more likely that they would take up the sport and stick with it which creates that conveyor belt.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,145 ✭✭✭orangerhyme


    Yeah I know. Makes no sense.

    Everyone knows he's good from distance. 2 pointers will kill you in a tight game.

    I don't understand it. It's not fatigue



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,145 ✭✭✭orangerhyme


    It really is passion and tradition.

    I'm from there so I don't know other counties really.

    But we grow up hearing stories about all the great players from birth really.

    Money means nothing. Everything comes from grassroots.

    Every village and parish has a GAA club and almost every boy plays.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 31,145 ✭✭✭✭breezy1985


    Money means nothing when it suits. When it's Dublin football or Limerick hurling it seems to suddenly matter.

    Look at population numbers in Ireland by county. All the top ones are because of the cities and then you get to Tipp, Kerry and Wexford. They all have 160k+ populations because of money. Grassroots need people and money.



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