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Donald Trump the Megathread part II - Mod Warning updated in OP 12/2/26

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,350 ✭✭✭✭aloyisious


    Ref the new much improved bigger better bill, how will the latest versions of SALT and Business Tax reliefs assist the GOP-ers in saying AYE in both parts of Congress? Is there an improved chance that they will pass the bill onto his desk for signature before the 4th of July?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 44,386 ✭✭✭✭ancapailldorcha


    He does when it's for Netanyahu, Putin or another tyrant.

    The foreigner residing among you must be treated as your native-born. Love them as yourself, for you were foreigners in Egypt. I am the LORD your God.

    Leviticus 19:34



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 22,577 ✭✭✭✭everlast75


    1000012232.jpg 1000012233.jpg 1000012234.jpg 1000012235.jpg 1000012236.jpg 1000012237.jpg

    An excellent analysis of the systemic problem with the US.

    Elect a clown... Expect a circus



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 690 ✭✭✭michael-henry-mcivor


    He could be charging for free speech before long-



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 22,390 ✭✭✭✭kneemos


    https://www.reddit.com/r/AdamMockler/s/6dCrjHiG7d

    I think this should be shared. A women shackled and left to give birth to a baby that had been dead for three days. No food or medical attention.

    GO USA.



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  • Moderators, Politics Moderators, Paid Member Posts: 45,547 Mod ✭✭✭✭Seth Brundle




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,793 ✭✭✭✭Oscar_Madison
    #MEGA MAKE EUROPE GREAT AGAIN


    The countrie’s soul I imagine- along with mass destruction of habitat and widespread pollution - in other words the usual American tarrifs for doing a “deal”



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 14,074 ✭✭✭✭AbusesToilets


    It's an absurd ruling by the SCOTUS, especially with respect to the issue at hand. We've seen that the Administration is breaking innumerable laws across the board, yet SCOTUS is determined to allow them to continue free reign while cases get adjudicated. People are dying in illegal detention, both in the US and overseas, and Roberts et al have no issues with that. With regards birthright citizenship, they are created conditions that will deepen fractures across the nation. A child born in New York will be a citizen, but one born in Texas won't be? The last time that situation existed in the US, it took a Civil War to resolve.

    The Supreme Court has given up all pretense of legitimacy. The conservative judges are actively facilitating Trump's criminality, and Constitutional violations. Referring back to 18th century England to explain their decision points to the depths that will sink to try and justify their actions.

    A post on Reddit put it succinctly:

    In her dissent, Jackson ripped off the mask off conservatism and exposed it for what it is:

    "Stated simply, what it means to have a system of government that is bounded by law is that everyone is constrained by the law, no exceptions. And for that to actually happen, courts must have the power to order everyone (including the Executive) to follow the law—full stop. To conclude otherwise is to endorse the creation of a zone of lawlessness within which the Executive has the prerogative to take or leave the law as it wishes, and where individuals who would otherwise be entitled to the law’s protection become subject to the Executive’s whims instead."

    This rings strangely reminiscent of Wilhoit's Law:

    Conservatism consists of exactly one proposition, to wit:

    There must be in-groups whom the law protectes but does not bind, alongside out-groups whom the law binds but does not protect.]

    The law cannot protect anyone unless it binds everyone; and it cannot bind anyone unless it protects everyone.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 14,074 ✭✭✭✭AbusesToilets


    In a shocking development, the Government investigated itself and found no wrongdoing. That link also doesn't dispute the claim she gave birth in her cell, while shackled.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,127 ✭✭✭✭Discodog


    Is there anywhere to read or copy that as a page ?



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 22,577 ✭✭✭✭everlast75




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,350 ✭✭✭✭aloyisious


    What price press freedom and constitutional guarantees?

    The U.S. president spoke on Sunday Morning Futures with Maria Bartiromo, and insisted once again that U.S. airstrikes targeting three Iranian facilities last weekend completed the task of disabling the Iranian nuclear weapons development program. The president vowed legal action against Democratic members of Congress and journalists he blamed for publishing parts of a U.S. intelligence assessment of the effects of the three attacks.

    “You go up and tell the reporter, 'national security, who gave it?'” Trump told Bartiromo, adding: “You have to do that. And I suspect we'll be doing things like that.” Of Democratic members of Congress with access to the intelligence assessment leaked to various news publications this past week, Trump added that they “should be prosecuted” for allegedly sharing parts of it with reporters.

    But a compliant GOP Congress is unlikely to challenge the president on this matter. Speaker Mike Johnson backed up Trump’s calls for retribution in a statement to NBC News last week. He confirmed that he agreed with the president’s assessment that a member of Congress provided news agencies with a summary or parts of the intelligence assessment on Iran.

    What happened to the Pentagon leak Hegseth and the White House were so sure was the source of the leak about the bombing result initial intelligence success estimate? Did the White House make up a fake story for the papers to print in a mole hunt or is it more like Trump & Co don't know what the **** is going on?

    How will unreliable members of congress react to Trump saying he'll have them arrested, interviewed and prosecuted under whatever he thinks should be used against them? It would be nice to have another TACO moment where he (or his press agent) would try to persuade the U.S. he said something different about having congress members arrested and prosecuted on drummed up charges.



  • Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 17,712 Mod ✭✭✭✭Manic Moran


    Welcome to the US legal system as it has been for two and a half centuries. In some parts of the US abortion was legal, others not, until SCOTUS ruled, and thousands of births would have happened or not in the amount of time it took to resolve the issue (both times). In some parts of the US, federal liens on unpaid taxes would be legal, on others, not, until SCOTUS ruled. In some parts of the US, birth control mandates in corporate healthcare would be legal, others no, until SCOTUS ruled. In some parts of the US, prohibitions on carrying firearms near a school would be legal, and others would not, until SCOTUS ruled. (That was a big one, it was the first time that the Federal government was told “No, you can’t go that far when making laws” since the 1930s).

    The court system does not stop just because SCOTUS is out of session. Even SCOTUS work does not stop when SCOTUS is out of session.

    No unconstitutional rulings are any more or less unconstitutional than any other, yet the system has somehow muddled along for a couple hundred years. Why is this particular constitutional issue any different from any other constitutional issue that it requires new processes which would not be appropriate for abortions or guns or any other such subject? Why should not the other classes of relief such as states representing on behalf of their residents not work as they used to before folks decided to try individuals going for universal injunctions?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 14,074 ✭✭✭✭AbusesToilets


    Abortion isn't inshrined in the Constitution. Once again, you deflect from recognizsing the train of actions that Trump's administration are carrying out, following the agenda laid out in the Project 2025. Restrictions on abortion, odious as they are, or access to firearms, do not inherently controvene the Constitution rights of citizens. Allowing Trump to ignore the plain text of 14th Amendment and over a century of precedence, to change how citizenship is granted in this country, is a foundational violation of the social contract.

    There is no legitimate government in the land, if Trump can choose to violate or change the law on a whim.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,628 ✭✭✭Dr Robert


    I don't believe for one second Trump is anti abortion. Just appealing to the looney conservatives in the party.

    In fact I'd bet he's pro choice, but won't admit that in his current role, obviously.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 41,942 ✭✭✭✭Itssoeasy


    The senate big beautiful bill will add $3.3 trillion to the national debt according to the congressional budget office.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,628 ✭✭✭Dr Robert




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 42,784 ✭✭✭✭eagle eye


    It's insane what's been going on over thete. My sister-in-law, American born and bred has moved to Ireland because she's afraid of Trump. There's massive numbers that have left the US after his re-election. Some people I know who have a bit of cash have left the country.

    I spent a lot of time going over and back in the last decade and a half, I lived there in the 90s. In 2014 ordinary hard working people had money, in late 2016 they didn't have much. 2018 was really bad, happiness had left a few of my friends. It was serious because they were counting every penny.

    Up untill 2016, regardless of which party was in power it was always great fun spending time there.

    My wife lost her mum and dad over the last few years and now her sister has moved here. She still has a lot of friends over there but we won't be visiting very often at least not until Trump is gone.

    The above is just a perspective from what I've seen. This gets forgotten about.

    We look at a world view and that needs to be focused on but there are lots of ordinary decent people suffering over there now. Most of them are relatively smart people.

    Trump has nearly every uneducated and unintelligent person in his corner. It's a really sad state of affairs.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,916 ✭✭✭threeball




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,350 ✭✭✭✭aloyisious


    Thanks for answering the question about whether SCOTUS shuts up shop totally when it is not in open session or if its work continues on unabated in it's courts.

    Ref the 2nd question in your 3rd Para: probably because the present president has set, and keeps setting, precedents whereby what he personally wants done is seen by him as more important than what is factually more important to the U.S.

    When the president decides to corrupt and mangle the U.S constitution so that it fits his purpose, instead of faithfully upholding it, it raises the question for the U.S and it's population: which is more important to that nation; the corruptive agent or the constitution protecting it? The agent who came to Washington in 2016 to drain the swamp has made it a morass by choice.

    I suspect and expect that a lot of U.S citizens, regardless of party and electorate, will be getting a knock on the door from people representing the president over the next two or so years and that if his chosen successor takes up the office afterwards, the period of corruption to the U.S may well be extended for another four years.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,988 ✭✭✭✭briany


    No president can usurp the US constitution.

    Not by themselves. They need an organisation behind them.

    The fact is that public consensus has been coming apart for a long time in the US. Social media, underpinned by chronic cultural problems has polarised American society, inducing widespread radicalisation. The difference between the right and left on this is that the left are still fractured while the right has largely united and they've united under Trump. Their guiding principle is not the US constitution. It is the word of Trump speaking to their prejudices and fears. This is the essence of a particularly scary term you may have heard in the last year - 'post-constitutional America'.



  • Site Banned Posts: 899 ✭✭✭I.am.Putins.raging.bile.duct




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,188 ✭✭✭lumphammer2


    Donald Trump must be the first time in history that a weak, lazy man totally uninterested in his job who basically spends 99% of his time asleep or playing golf is idolised by millions of uninformed zombies …… Trump has no input whatsoever on government and has delegated that to incompetent extremists who answer to either Project 2025 itself an incompetent project or Netanyahu ….. Trump is a paper tiger and a con ….. a liar and a marketeer snake oil salesman who comes out every now and again to spout the propaganda of what is behind him ….. he speaks for an entity that is akin to The Handmaid's Tale …. but he is the Basil Fawlty spoof version ….. he speaks to the press ….. abuses Kaitlan Collins or whoever is in the firing line ….. and then rides off into the sunset as all cowboys do ….. in this case to play golf and say he beat Tiger Woods or whoever …… another lie ….. while he allows a group of incompetent unelected hardline ministers run America as some sort of a cross between Gilead and Fawlty Towers with Maxwell Not-So-Smart in charge of security, trade and economics …..



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,916 ✭✭✭threeball


    Hitler famously used to sleep until after midday after nights of staying up till 3am ranting to his guests. No one ever disturbed him, not even for D-Day and it resulted in no tanks being sent to the coast to push back the allies.

    Trump will slob around and sleep most of the day but once he gets his BIG Mac and settles in for a night of Faux news tjen he comes to life, jabbering to the world on social media.

    Narcissists tend to be lazy and incompetent but loving telling others how everything should be done and no one does it better than them.

    Doesn't say alot of the human race that we flock to them like moths to a bulb.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 15,536 ✭✭✭✭Igotadose


    Tariffs and annexation yields (imo) essentially no US wine sales to Canada last month. Down 94% YOY which imo means nothing sold.

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    https://www.ctvnews.ca/canada/article/trump-trade-war-alcohol-sales-dropped-after-provinces-pulled-us-products/



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,600 ✭✭✭Economics101


    Sorry if this sounds pedantic, but the heading in the above chart should read "US Exports of Wine to Canada", or alternatively "Canadian Imports of Wine from the US".

    No argument about the substance of the chart, though.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 986 ✭✭✭steinbock123


    Yeah, I have a Canadian friend who lives in New Brunswick, in a fairly rural area. She told me that since Trump said Canada should become a US state, that they have just stopped buying ANYTHING that comes from the US.

    Food, drink, cars, publications , services, anything, anything made in the US , they just won’t buy. She told me that people have just taken this decision by themselves , with no input from government, lobby groups, influencers, or media. It’s a national “movement “ that just happened naturally. They also won’t travel there either, unless it’s completely unavoidable.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,854 ✭✭✭Wolf359f


    All due to Canada placing a 25% tariff on US wine. Wine imports from Australia and New Zealand into Canada have increased to fill in the gap.

    It appears there's no tariff on vinegar so at least the US Wineries can convert their expensive wine to cheap vinegar in order to shift it in Canada!

    That's why you target industries in a trade war, hit the US in certain markets, the same markets you can look elsewhere to supply (Australia and NZ).



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,284 ✭✭✭bog master


    Groundhog Day-again and again

    Trump says there’s a TikTok buyer that he’ll reveal in ‘about two weeks’

    Is that the farthest Taco man can think ahead?

    https://us.cnn.com/2025/06/29/politics/trump-tiktok-buyer-bytedance-ban



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 42,784 ✭✭✭✭eagle eye


    The dream would be Canada getting temporary membership of the Schengen until things get sorted out with the US.



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