Donald Trump the Megathread part II - mod warnings in OP, Updated 06/06/25

He's just fulfilling his campaign promises. I remember that excuse being rolled out on the thread.

Of course, the campaign promise he is fulfilling is to be a racist feathering his own nest.

It couldn't be the campaign promises about fighting cost of living, price of eggs, or anything to do with ordinary people's working lives… because that was an obvious pack of lies from the get go.

On promises. It doesn't matter about the specifics. Foreign wars, inflation, jobs going off shore.

Most people don't understand the complexity behind these.

But they understand feelings. And Trump makes them feel better. He makes them feel like someone is working for them. Speaking their language.

Essentially they are afraid. Afraid of the world changing around them. The same desire to go back to the way it was is in play as it was in Brexit. Some unknown, undefined previous time were everything was better.

And Trump promises that. And while he continually fails to deliver he does continue to attack those that he believes, and therefore they do, for all the problems.

The problem is not that the Iran attack didn't achieve what Trump claimed, the problem is the media hate America and want it to fail.Etc

Only a nation with enormous feeling of self privilege and importance could reelect a bridge burner.

It's not really reported as we in Ireland swim in anglosphere news but the surplus of consumer goods that had been bound for the US are now diverted to Europe and more critically Chinese export licenses for the export of critical refined rare earth materials are favouring EU industry while the US continues to be sidelined.

He is still trying to find third-party countries to accept the people he is expelling from the U.S.

Trump NEVER does things for free….

He could be charging for free speech before long-

It's an absurd ruling by the SCOTUS, especially with respect to the issue at hand. We've seen that the Administration is breaking innumerable laws across the board, yet SCOTUS is determined to allow them to continue free reign while cases get adjudicated. People are dying in illegal detention, both in the US and overseas, and Roberts et al have no issues with that. With regards birthright citizenship, they are created conditions that will deepen fractures across the nation. A child born in New York will be a citizen, but one born in Texas won't be? The last time that situation existed in the US, it took a Civil War to resolve.

The Supreme Court has given up all pretense of legitimacy. The conservative judges are actively facilitating Trump's criminality, and Constitutional violations. Referring back to 18th century England to explain their decision points to the depths that will sink to try and justify their actions.

A post on Reddit put it succinctly:

In her dissent, Jackson ripped off the mask off conservatism and exposed it for what it is:

"Stated simply, what it means to have a system of government that is bounded by law is that everyone is constrained by the law, no exceptions. And for that to actually happen, courts must have the power to order everyone (including the Executive) to follow the law—full stop. To conclude otherwise is to endorse the creation of a zone of lawlessness within which the Executive has the prerogative to take or leave the law as it wishes, and where individuals who would otherwise be entitled to the law’s protection become subject to the Executive’s whims instead."

This rings strangely reminiscent of Wilhoit's Law:

Conservatism consists of exactly one proposition, to wit:

There must be in-groups whom the law protectes but does not bind, alongside out-groups whom the law binds but does not protect.]

The law cannot protect anyone unless it binds everyone; and it cannot bind anyone unless it protects everyone.

Is there anywhere to read or copy that as a page ?

What price press freedom and constitutional guarantees?

The U.S. president spoke on Sunday Morning Futures with Maria Bartiromo, and insisted once again that U.S. airstrikes targeting three Iranian facilities last weekend completed the task of disabling the Iranian nuclear weapons development program. The president vowed legal action against Democratic members of Congress and journalists he blamed for publishing parts of a U.S. intelligence assessment of the effects of the three attacks.

“You go up and tell the reporter, 'national security, who gave it?'” Trump told Bartiromo, adding: “You have to do that. And I suspect we'll be doing things like that.” Of Democratic members of Congress with access to the intelligence assessment leaked to various news publications this past week, Trump added that they “should be prosecuted” for allegedly sharing parts of it with reporters.

But a compliant GOP Congress is unlikely to challenge the president on this matter. Speaker Mike Johnson backed up Trump’s calls for retribution in a statement to NBC News last week. He confirmed that he agreed with the president’s assessment that a member of Congress provided news agencies with a summary or parts of the intelligence assessment on Iran.

What happened to the Pentagon leak Hegseth and the White House were so sure was the source of the leak about the bombing result initial intelligence success estimate? Did the White House make up a fake story for the papers to print in a mole hunt or is it more like Trump & Co don't know what the **** is going on?

How will unreliable members of congress react to Trump saying he'll have them arrested, interviewed and prosecuted under whatever he thinks should be used against them? It would be nice to have another TACO moment where he (or his press agent) would try to persuade the U.S. he said something different about having congress members arrested and prosecuted on drummed up charges.

Abortion isn't inshrined in the Constitution. Once again, you deflect from recognizsing the train of actions that Trump's administration are carrying out, following the agenda laid out in the Project 2025. Restrictions on abortion, odious as they are, or access to firearms, do not inherently controvene the Constitution rights of citizens. Allowing Trump to ignore the plain text of 14th Amendment and over a century of precedence, to change how citizenship is granted in this country, is a foundational violation of the social contract.

There is no legitimate government in the land, if Trump can choose to violate or change the law on a whim.

The senate big beautiful bill will add $3.3 trillion to the national debt according to the congressional budget office.

It's insane what's been going on over thete. My sister-in-law, American born and bred has moved to Ireland because she's afraid of Trump. There's massive numbers that have left the US after his re-election. Some people I know who have a bit of cash have left the country.

I spent a lot of time going over and back in the last decade and a half, I lived there in the 90s. In 2014 ordinary hard working people had money, in late 2016 they didn't have much. 2018 was really bad, happiness had left a few of my friends. It was serious because they were counting every penny.

Up untill 2016, regardless of which party was in power it was always great fun spending time there.

My wife lost her mum and dad over the last few years and now her sister has moved here. She still has a lot of friends over there but we won't be visiting very often at least not until Trump is gone.

The above is just a perspective from what I've seen. This gets forgotten about.

We look at a world view and that needs to be focused on but there are lots of ordinary decent people suffering over there now. Most of them are relatively smart people.

Trump has nearly every uneducated and unintelligent person in his corner. It's a really sad state of affairs.

Thanks for answering the question about whether SCOTUS shuts up shop totally when it is not in open session or if its work continues on unabated in it's courts.

Ref the 2nd question in your 3rd Para: probably because the present president has set, and keeps setting, precedents whereby what he personally wants done is seen by him as more important than what is factually more important to the U.S.

When the president decides to corrupt and mangle the U.S constitution so that it fits his purpose, instead of faithfully upholding it, it raises the question for the U.S and it's population: which is more important to that nation; the corruptive agent or the constitution protecting it? The agent who came to Washington in 2016 to drain the swamp has made it a morass by choice.

I suspect and expect that a lot of U.S citizens, regardless of party and electorate, will be getting a knock on the door from people representing the president over the next two or so years and that if his chosen successor takes up the office afterwards, the period of corruption to the U.S may well be extended for another four years.