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28 Years Later

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  • Moderators, Arts Moderators, Regional Abroad Moderators, Paid Member Posts: 11,207 Mod ✭✭✭✭Fysh


    I think the "UK is left to fend for its own" aspect of the story you just have to try and set aside as a "oh good, a Brexit analogy" thing. Though I agree - if they were going to do it I'd have liked them to do more than just gently suggest that the result is the islanders gathering around a small subset of what they think their cultural identity is, as if it's a waning bonfire in a storm. (Not that there's a problem with that, but you didn't need the fairly illogical "this problem happened 23 years ago and… has just been left like this since" setup).

    In terms of Jamie though…he's a plonker, clearly desperate for Spike to have a strong reputation within the island community (which, from his speech at the party, struck me at least partly as a desire to bask in reflected glory), but I could totally see him not telling Spike that his mother has cancer out of fear that the boy would decide caring for her (or seeking medical help) was more important than burnishing his reputation.

    It didn't bother me in the moment because there wasn't too much attention drawn to it, but I can understand being frustrated with the story of Fiennes' character - that part of the story had a real "this is fine for a first draft Alex, but you're going to need to finesse the details before we get to the point of filming" feel to it. I reckon there are ways of justifying the character's behaviour that wouldn't be too difficult to fit into the film, but that first requires the film to be interested in figuring the specifics out and then explaining them.

    Anyway - sorry you found it as frustrating as you did :(



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 963 ✭✭✭Dogsdodogsstuff


    Particularly with Bloomberg recently calling Brexit the dumbest thing a country has ever done.

    Maybe that explains “the dumb” things the characters did that seems to of really annoyed Tony.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,764 ✭✭✭✭Tony EH


    this problem happened 23 years ago and… has just been left like this since

    That's one of the biggest issues that I had with the film. The fact that in '28 Days Later' we see that the infected starve to death. They have no reasoning abilities. They have no skills. They're purely driven by the Rage virus. As Christopher Eccelston's character stated "He's telling me he'll never bake bread, farm crops, raise livestock. He's telling me he's futureless. And eventually he'll tell me how long the infected take to starve to death." All of which was just quietly dropped in '28 Years Later'.

    I also didn't understand the rationale behind having the rest of Europe push back the infection, while Britain collapsed. What was the point in that? It wouldn't have made any difference to the overall story if Europe was completely overrun too.

    In terms of Jamie though…he's a plonker

    For sure, and I was willing to let the first 20 minutes or so go, because it had a number of effective moments, even if I thought that the idea of bringing a 12 year to the most dangerous place on earth was absurd. But then the kid takes his mother to go see a doctor (who is quite possibly a maniac) and I just rolled my eyes.

    But there's another even more ridiculous scene where Jodie Comer's character helps an infected woman give birth. I think at that point any willingness I had to let stuff go was gone.

    Anyway - sorry you found it as frustrating as you did :(

    Ha ha, don't be. It's just a film. 😁

    It's probably worth seeing at some stage by most people. I just wouldn't be rushing to the cinema to see it, unless you don't care about the ticket price. The acting is very good all round, especially from Jodie Comer and Alfie Williams. It's shot very well by Dod Mantle and looks nice. It's just the plot that needed much more work to sell the picture to me.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 32,341 ✭✭✭✭breezy1985


    "unless you don't care about the ticket price"

    I mean isn't the cinema 6e these days. Not exactly gonna break the bank if you end up picking a sub par movie.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,060 ✭✭✭Rocket_GD


    Depends on what cinema you go to. An IMAX ticket for Cineworld is €23, even their standard ticket for a showing of 28YL this evening is €16.

    There are of course cheaper cinemas especially if you go midweek but on Tues in Stillorgan the ticket was €14 (thankfully I had a free Odeon code from Vodafone).



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 32,341 ✭✭✭✭breezy1985


    Ya but if your concern is money the options are out there. Tony was making it sound like a big financial decision.

    That same Cineworld is 11e on Tuesday. That's nothing in today's prices.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,764 ✭✭✭✭Tony EH


    It cost me 28 Euro for two in the IFI and for a sub par projection. Wrong AR and the film was slightly crooked.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 43,652 ✭✭✭✭ancapailldorcha


    No. I went to see The Phoenician Scheme at a Vue. I had a free ticket and a half off popcorn voucher and I was out a tenner for a large coke and the other half of the popcorn alone.

    Throw in transport and full prices and you'll easily hit £30, if not £40. I actually wouldn't mind in the slightest if they would just do something about imbeciles and their devices but that's another topic.

    The foreigner residing among you must be treated as your native-born. Love them as yourself, for you were foreigners in Egypt. I am the LORD your God.

    Leviticus 19:34



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 963 ✭✭✭Dogsdodogsstuff


    I really get annoyed with people on smart devices and talking during the movie! That more then anything ruins a cinema experience for me.

    Youd of thought its not that difficult to understand that a cinema is not a cafe.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 43,652 ✭✭✭✭ancapailldorcha


    It always gets under my skin.

    I think the cost of admission makes people feel entitled to get their phone out or talk whenever they want. I went to see Flash Gordon for the first time in 2020 (Covid screening) and an elderly couple just took out their phones and started playing music.

    The foreigner residing among you must be treated as your native-born. Love them as yourself, for you were foreigners in Egypt. I am the LORD your God.

    Leviticus 19:34



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 963 ✭✭✭Dogsdodogsstuff


    That’s just the worst!

    In general I usually try and avoid peak time/busy screenings



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 43,652 ✭✭✭✭ancapailldorcha


    I see why but I've had mixed results. I saw 28 Years Later on the Friday evening after it came out and it was great. I saw the Al Pacino exorcism thing in a dead screening and there was a lad at the front who couldn't go 5 minutes without getting his phone out.

    The foreigner residing among you must be treated as your native-born. Love them as yourself, for you were foreigners in Egypt. I am the LORD your God.

    Leviticus 19:34



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 11,675 ✭✭✭✭J Mysterio


    I would definitely be having a word in those circumstances



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 43,652 ✭✭✭✭ancapailldorcha


    I did but it's far too common to do that every time.

    The foreigner residing among you must be treated as your native-born. Love them as yourself, for you were foreigners in Egypt. I am the LORD your God.

    Leviticus 19:34



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 234 ✭✭Lecter8319


    I was munching away on popcorn, chocolates and coke when I watched it. Would that have bugged you?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 43,652 ✭✭✭✭ancapailldorcha


    The foreigner residing among you must be treated as your native-born. Love them as yourself, for you were foreigners in Egypt. I am the LORD your God.

    Leviticus 19:34



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,934 ✭✭✭eightieschewbaccy


    I honestly loved it. While the last sequence was out of step, I have a suspicion that it's more establishing the messed up figures who have thrived in this world.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 32,341 ✭✭✭✭breezy1985


    The themed gang and the idea of categories of zombie "difficulty level" was just a bit too cliche computer game for me.

    The Tellytubbies obviously set it up. This kid will be raised by TV which is probably Jim'll Fix It and Power Rangers videos. That finale was very X rated Power Rangers.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,148 ✭✭✭silliussoddius


    Their fighting reminded me of Fake Purse Ninjas from Bowfinger.

    Earlier in the film Spike's father had mentioned that there were some strange people around, so there was a bit of foreshadowing.

    Role models and father figures seems to be the theme; Jimmy was forsaken by his father, Spike lost respect for his etc., with the next film being subtitled Bone Temple maybe there will be a tug of war between Kelson and Jimmy's gang.

    The truth about Saville wasn't out when 28 Days Later was set so I don't think it will go into all that.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 32,341 ✭✭✭✭breezy1985


    ThThere were a lot of moments when it seemed like it was his step father and not his birth father.

    Also despite Saville not being exposed at the time the vibe off Jimmy was very noncy so it will be interesting to see where they go with that.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 963 ✭✭✭Dogsdodogsstuff


    Thinking about some of the weirder elements , I was thinking of the swarm of crows just in front of the alpha and the really old school horror look of crows flying by the hunted as they are being chased by the monster. It sort of reminded me of Jim’s dream in 28DL when the sheep were running scared and he was scared of being left alone.

    Somebody mentioned crows probably have learned that where there is alphas , there is usually food (like animals following lions in the jungle for scraps).

    But the dramatic visual of the crows. Is it thinking too deep to ask if perhaps that’s us viewing some of the story through the lens of spike (like if he was recounting the story?!). Would also , somewhat , explain the ending but maybe I’m reading into something that’s not the case.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 35,378 ✭✭✭✭gmisk


    Looks like I was not wrong with the box office likely falling off a cliff....looking like possibly a 65% drop in US weekend box office...

    I know the second one in the can, but I am not sure you can count on a part 3 at this stage...



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 963 ✭✭✭Dogsdodogsstuff


    I was thinking about that and I’m not sure the 3rd is as under threat as being publicly stated.

    The final movie is set to be about Jim, everybody’s favorite character. So that’s an Oscar winning actor, and Boyle/Garland guaranteed. I’d imagine plenty of studios would love to have that lined up.

    Really doesn’t make 70mil for the final instalment seem like a massive gamble, I’d even see a Netflix picking it up, they’ve wasted more on absolute dross.

    Also, after the trilogy , they’d easily break even and they’d have a solid legacy horror that will do well on streaming and most likely build up a cult following. They’d also have a possible franchise to sell, again Netflix being obvious choice , but the trilogy would enhance the IP.

    I’d say the only thing to be decided on final film is possibly the budget or maybe they are holding back as a PR thing.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,244 ✭✭✭Gyan84


    Saw it today and thought it was good but not great.

    With the exception of the sprint back to the village I thought the portion with Spike's dad and him out on his first trip was very dull. Maybe because the last of us is recent but the whole young person being guided through zombie apocalypse by parent is very cliche at this stage.

    That might be why I enjoyed the next part so much, having Spike being responsible for his mother felt like a nice inversion and the discussions with the Doctor were a nice piece of personal drama that broke up the Zombie sequences.

    Four things I wasn't a fan of:

    1. I feel like the Swedish soldier section could be cut completely and you'd lose nothing other than a few comedic scenes that weren't needed. When you compare it to the first last of us and the impact the people they meet has on the story it's very lackluster. I thought they were introducing him as a way to build the plot about the outside world but all we got is "Britain quarantined, rest of world normal" which we already knew from the state of Britain and Spike's Dad seeing the French boat when they were out.
    2. While the sequence leading up to it was very nice, Spike reacted way too calmly to being handed his mother's skull and being told to place it on the death Christmas tree 😅
    3. The ending sequence felt very MCU-post credit scene. Felt it would have been much better as the first bit of promo released for the sequel as it would have generated discussion then but also let this one end on the nice emotional note it reached.
    4. I have no technical knowledge in terms of film making or what constitutes skilled camera work but that weird freeze frame thing they did for the first half whenever a zombie was shot was awful, thought the projector was acting up.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 83 ✭✭howdydoo83


    Complete garbage. Did enjoy the chase scene at the start, didn't think he'd make something worse than Yesterday but here we are



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 28,869 ✭✭✭✭murpho999


    About the ending. I'm surprised at the reaction. For me it's like an epilogue. The film ended in the previous scene and this was like a post credits scene.

    I don't think it sets the tone for next movie. Also the movie is an alternative history and I'd say young Jimmy saw old Saville stuff on TV like Tellytubbies in the begining and it impacted him

    Overall enjoyed the movie. Cinematography and music was excellent. The scene running back across the bridge whilst being chased was breathtaking.

    A few irritations for me. The bus/birth scene just didn't ring true for me. A connection between the two mothers just makes now sense with a rage infected person.

    The doctor: his massive effort with the skulls seems incredulous for me. Building that over 28 years with such precision in a highly dangerous world full of rampaging infected just seems impossible to me.

    However, the doctor's Hamlet reference was a top notch joke that made me LOL and deserves more credit here.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,443 ✭✭✭Le Bruise


    Came on here to ask the question about how they deal with the infected starving thing. Do they now have a food source or is it just not mentioned as a thing? Can't wait to see it myself, hoping to get into the cinema this week.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,934 ✭✭✭eightieschewbaccy


    So thinking back on that ending, the more I feel that this is literally the child's perception of them. That power ranger toy at the start feels like a hint at it, they almost resemble power rangers in terms of their fighting etc. Suspect they'll come across entirely differently when viewed through the father's eyes in the sequel.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 32,341 ✭✭✭✭breezy1985


    I understand the idea that the kids were influenced by TV. Shows and games have had gangs like this before.

    What was annoying me is where these kids having found some Jimmy Saville videos then managed to find a load of matching tracksuits and wigs.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 35,378 ✭✭✭✭gmisk


    You see the infected eating animals like deer.



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