Unsolved Irish Mysteries.

Agree with this, in addition are we certain there was a warrant, I would think there was but alternatively could they just come to agreement with the homeowner? Seems like if an agreement was worked out, then they wouldn't have to bother with a warrant in any case, and then didn't need to provide any evidence to get one.

Regarding another unsolved case, that of Grace Livingstone.

https://www.independent.ie/irish-news/crime/husband-who-sued-gardai-over-probe-into-wife-grace-livingstones-murder-is-buried/a439950429.html

Interesting wording in this write-up. I get the strong impression AGS still think it was the husband.

For all your talk on here of other people speculating, you have produced nothing yourself. You have no idea what evidence was produced to get the warrant. You have no idea what the witness statements say. As if they just searched the property because the suspect lived there 30 years ago. Give it a rest.

The Gardai can now hopefully rule out this location going forward, which is probably a relief for the home owners, and move on to other locations.

I’ve paid more than my fair share of taxes over my lifetime and I’m delighted to hear that this search went ahead. It’s great to hear that active lines of enquiry are being pursued in a case that is a real stain on our nation.

Can people also stop speculating about whether the house will be returned to its original state. Of course it will. People just love to give out.

Thank you.

We can only go by what the media have reported and it is pretty much that - there was no significant link between this case and the site in the witness statements. The search was speculative as reported by the Irish times. That means they had nothing to suggest this specific site was important.

One can only hope that the gardai can indeed rule this site out after wasting hundreds of thousands of euro turning it upside down. They'd hardly be that incompetent.

And questions about the house being returned to the pre search state are valid ones. The State has zero liability to do so and it is the policy of the State Claims Agency to contest these claims relating to search damage. While there is a case by case element to how these are dealt with, if the State does pay it will be both an exception and a monetary payment. The homeowner will almost certainly have to engage contractors themselves to do the work, the guards aren't going to be fitting kitchens for them or supervising others doing same.

And when they say they are returning the site, it doesn't mean they are reinstating it. It means they are leaving it safe. It will take months for reconstruction and the guards are not hanging around for that.

All of this in my view is unacceptable. While the guards have a duty to investigate crime, searches like these need to be calibrated against the expected yield. The expectation here, when actually considered rationally, is that nothing useful would be found. Lo and behold, that's exactly what happened.

@MrMusician18…That's your own mindset.

i think anyone owning a property that might hold clues to a murdered woman and help bring closure for her family, would gladly allow the Gardai carry out a search.

Suggesting the Gardai thrashed the place and would leave it not returned to it's original state in a reasonable timeframe, appears speculative nonsense that you are repeating over and over.

Is anyone in Ireland ever allowed to have an opinion about anything unless it affects themselves? An incredibly juvenile outlook.

The issue I see in these cases is the Guards never searched properly in the first instance. It was the same with Philip Cairns. The Guards said they were going search all the houses, gardens and sheds in the area. My grandparents lived down the road from where he disappeared and had large garden with several half abandoned sheds full of junk, cars and boats etc. Plenty of places a boy could hide or get hurt exploring. The Guards never even knocked on the door. We searched the place several times ourselves to make sure he was not there.

Maybe it was his own house. There were other siblings in the suspects family. Theres a musician who has the same name as one. I'm sure its just a coincidence.

Nah not that brilliant songwriter and singer if that's who you mean! This is a much less well known Brady ( but a very "chatty" one, of the right vintage, with a few self made YouTube videos around Dublin and Wicklow.

No one is asking you to read or reply to my opinions, skip over or block me if you are so inclined and you find it that bothersome.

And no, I'm not related to the suspects or current occupants family nor have I any relationship with any known associate of AMcC.

And to those that say they wouldn't mind if this happened to you. This isn't the guards coming in to have a peep in your cupboards, this was actual heavy demolition of the house. You are talking months at best before the house can be occupied again. I don't believe anyone would be happy to allow that to happen to their home if they were actually put in that position. It's all too easy to say it's for the greater good when it's someone else. The greater good won't be much succour when you are in your fifth week living out of a suitcase in a travel lodge. And if it needed to be pointed out again they didn't have a specific lead on this house.

Sure they have to search to solve crimes but when the expected outcome in this instance had a very strong probability of failure you have to ask at what cost.

I'll leave it at that because I'm labouring the point now - but that's because no one has actually engaged properly with my point. It's all too easy to be morally superior and say this must be solved at all costs, we must have closure etc but that neglects the reality of limited budgets and this will take from other policing. In truth this search was a very expensive and disruptive endeavour that was never likely to succeed.

https://youtu.be/ohDB5gbtaEQ?si=TUKKOr8XnKPYZ7FG

The latest episode of Shattered lives with Paul Healy where he discusses talking to the two brothers. For some reason I thought Paul went over to France to him but the brother just answered the phone and spoke for 20 minutes to him. Sounds like he didn't realize the conversation was going to be reported on and when he was told it was he stopped talking.

The brother in Ireland hung up straight away when he was phoned by the journalist. I'd say he thought to himself "that effing eejit" when he seen the headlines.

So no underfloor heating put back, pipes reconnected, sewage re-piped, DPC made good, no radon barrier relaid or sealed, no dust damage corrected, no cleaning multiple times, no floor surface relaid, no blinds nor curtains, no repainting.

No storage for any items which were in that area of the house?

Just pour a lorry of concrete and run?

A matter of days - yeah right, easy know who hasn't built anything recently...

I'd be fcuking livid if they did this to my house, id chain myself to the gates of the Dail or Garda HQ on hunger strike until they fully reinstated everything as was and compensated me for the disruption to my life.

The search HAD to happen, but they HAVE to put it back properly, and the estimate above of 500k isn't even a quarter of what this escapade will cost the taxpayer. Remember a bike shelter cost us 350k.