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Peter McVerry Trust has 'financial issues'.

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,239 ✭✭✭✭ILoveYourVibes


    I met father Peter Mc Verry and it played a role in one of the most surreal experiences of my life.

    I volunteered for his prison charity service with a bunch of mates. Mountjoy.

    We had a choir and performed. Along comes easter. And Im told they are going to do the stations of the cross and they say 'You would make a good jesus'. Im like .. no. Please no. Long story short they rope me into it.

    So here i am in a prison chapel.. on a cross in a gown being sung to by the prison's own choir and i will never forget the song they chose for some reason. I dunno why they chose it .. i think it was because of johnny cash and because he sung to people in prison and we were a bunch of kids in a choir singing with them or something and someone mentioned it.

    It was pretty cool. All the inmates were cool nice guys. Very respectful and really wanted to make us feel comfortable and safe and welcome. They were lovely and all said thankyou.

    But as i was up there on that cross in my gown with my addidas tracksuit bottoms on underneath. .. and gary (the singer ) started singing this in that big deep voice .. with guitar .. sounding like johnny cash.. i was like .. boy .. nothing is gonna top this. I was seeing lights and auras. I am not lying.

    It was one of those Catholic moments that no one would believe.

    Truly Fr Peter Mc Verry was a humble simple living man. And I never would have guessed that much money was going through. He was as sharp as a tack. Down to earth and really was honest. He just wanted to help people.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 31,301 ✭✭✭✭blanch152


    Sharp as a tack?

    Maybe, because he is now playing the fool, claiming how would a poor old uneducated priest understand the niceties of corporate governance.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 17,423 ✭✭✭✭elperello


    He is 81 so may not be as sharp as he was in his younger days.

    He has never represented himself as uneducated.

    How could he seeing as he is a UCD graduate, a qualified teacher and also studied theology as part of his Jesuit training.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,702 ✭✭✭Potatoeman


    Why am I getting a father Ted image, “that money was just resting in my account.” Cut to a video of Father McVerry dancing with girls in a nightclub.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 31,301 ✭✭✭✭blanch152


    So, you are saying that as the founder, a member of the Board and as Company Secretary, McVerry had the education and sharpness to fully understand what was going on inside the Trust?

    Certainly, that is not the way it is being portrayed in the media by his friends.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 17,423 ✭✭✭✭elperello


    I quite clearly stated that he never claimed to be uneducated and gave the reason.

    I also said he might not be as sharp now as he was in his younger days.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 31,301 ✭✭✭✭blanch152


    Well, it seems that the misuse of State money has been going on for quite a while.

    Is there a timeline from when McVerry was as sharp as a tool until the time he could no longer be complicit in fraud?

    It certainly is something that someone with declining mental acuity left himself in charge of a large entity.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 17,423 ✭✭✭✭elperello


    I don't know anything about a "timeline" and I never suggested such a thing exists.

    What I said is that at 81 he may not be as sharp as he was in his younger days.

    For reference think of people that age that you are acquainted with.

    You'll likely find that there is a range of mental acuity.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 31,301 ✭✭✭✭blanch152


    It seems that some of the problems in the Peter McVerry Trust date back over a decade, hence my question on when the good priest lost his mental acuity to spot these issues.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 31,301 ✭✭✭✭blanch152


    https://www.independent.ie/irish-news/courts/homeless-man-housed-by-peter-mcverry-trust-sues-charity-and-hotel-after-piece-of-ceiling-fell-on-him/a1716346186.html

    "The McVerry Trust Operations Company Limited had taken a full floor of the Maldron Hotel, Pearse Street, Dublin, to house a number of homeless people one of whom was the plaintiff in today’s personal injuries case, Sean Cummins."

    I mean, this beggars belief. Another complete waste of money.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 38,121 ✭✭✭✭Hotblack Desiato


    It's just feeble excuse after feeble excuse for this guy.

    Huge sums of taxpayers' money involved, and he was the company secretary for many years when all sorts of shenanigans were going on.

    If he knew what was going on he was complicit, if he didn't know he was either incompetent or negligent.

    He should not have occupied such an important role for many years while failing to carry out its responsibilities, and now he's saying that he wasn't actually the person responsible? Well, legally, he was, so he should have stood down from that role years ago if he wasn't willing and able to carry it out. So it seems the dodgy former CEO had literally no oversight at all over his activities.

    It's just not good enough in any company, but especially not in one which receives so much taxpayers' money

    I'm partial to your abracadabra,

    I'm raptured by the joy of it all.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,257 ✭✭✭Large bottle small glass


    I don't think he's feathering his own nest, but all his actions and that of the charity show complete distain and contempt for the people who pay the tax the his charity has wasted.

    7m for a Georgian hotel (and probably a protected structure) seems like a great Idea for a hostel. No wonder it's laid in idle; sure we'll just go back to the money tree for more.

    I've no doubt there is people making fortunes with sweetheart deals between sales, services, leases etc; where there is no oversight with public money the same thing always happens.

    The state are as much to blame as this entitled prick though; they have closed asylums, abandoned public housing and allowed a booming underclass of addicts and the unwell to be catered by a huge housing association sector which costs us billions annually lots of it unaccounted for in all real sense.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 38,121 ✭✭✭✭Hotblack Desiato


    I don't think he's feathering his own nest

    I don't think anyone has suggested that, but the former CEO has some very serious questions to answer.

    I'm partial to your abracadabra,

    I'm raptured by the joy of it all.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,334 ✭✭✭Sheep breeder


    Agree what your saying father Pat had a free hand and boy was he capable and the other man stood by and let it happen.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 26,658 ✭✭✭✭Mrs OBumble


    Eh? I thought the infamous Fr Pat was with Respond, the even bigger AHB.

    Fr Peter was with PMcT Trust.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,334 ✭✭✭Sheep breeder


    The CEO that is central to the story is known as father Pat for his would be priest persona.



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