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Russia-Ukraine War (continuing)

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,833 ✭✭✭✭TheValeyard


    Looks like I picked the wrong week to quit sniffing glue



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,515 ✭✭✭thatsdaft


    Another failed Russian offensive

    The pattern is clear now

    • Russian bots hype it up “Kiev, Kharkiv, Sumi in X days”
    • Meat advances few hundred meters
    • Attack culminates as there’s no armor left and men are exposed to drones
    • Counterattack mops up
    • Some general falls out of window for yet another failure


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,128 ✭✭✭✭cnocbui




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,332 ✭✭✭CelticRambler


    One (Ukrainian) YouTuber the other day offered an explanation the other day for this kind of operation : when the Ukrainians get wind of a planned "major offensive" at some point along the front line, they arrange a strategic "collapse" of their own defensive line that encourages the Russians to push further and further into a convenient salient.

    The Ukrainians then pick off the advancing troops at just enough of a rate to limit the risk of them gaining a real foothold, but leaving it look to the Russian commanders like there's ground (and medals) to be gained, so they keep pouring resources into the space. The Ukrainians follow the supply lines back to their point of origin, identify command posts and logistical hubs, and when the time is right, drop a few Hammers on them and put an end to the campaign.

    That's somewhat speculative, but it does match almost exactly how the Ukrainians dealt with that 40km convoy to Kyiv back at the start of the "Special Military Operation" - which reinforces the point that the Russians haven't really evolved their offensive strategy in any meaningful way.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,538 ✭✭✭Paddigol


    Where is Brickster to counter your claims? Surely he'll be along any moment with alternative accounts? Those posters who put up news reports from the Russian angle "just for balance"… what are your sources saying about this??

    Balance isn't about picking and choosing when to quote your sources. That's called narrative driving.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,515 ✭✭✭thatsdaft


    Busy in parallel thread discussing colonial invasions without a shred of irony

    And admiring how in the “12 day war” air superiority was achieved on day one

    While Russia is 1200+ days into its special military operation having lost its Black Sea fleet to a country without navy and instead of achieving air superiority lost at third of its strategic bombers



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,538 ✭✭✭Paddigol


    I think the 40km supply line was just a case of fish in a barrel asking to be shot. More to do with complete and utter ineptitude than Ukrainian strategy I'd say. Ukraine's military machine has evolved exponentially since then, whereas, as you say, Russia is still stuck banging its head off the brick wall.

    On that topic… can you imagine the destruction Ukraine would have caused to that 40km column if it had the benefit of its current logistics, drones and tactics? I doubt anything of that column would have made it out unscathed. Russia got lucky it was so early in the war.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,515 ✭✭✭thatsdaft


    Russians set fire to 5 Bunderswehr trucks … In Germany itself

    and of course filmed themselves doing it



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,128 ✭✭✭✭cnocbui


    I believe that happened while they were parked at commercial premises.

    "The vehicles were parked on the premises of MAN Trucks & Bus Service GmbH in Erfurt-Gispersleben."



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,096 ✭✭✭Polar101


    I guess that's why we also get the usual "Ukrainian lines are collapsing, very worrying" and "Russia has taken control of this place you'll only see if I keep zooming in on the map".



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 12,422 ✭✭✭✭AbusesToilets




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,705 ✭✭✭Dubh Geannain


    They're still creeping in Donetsk I think. Having been pushed back a few settlements around Pokrovsk earlier in the year its back to a few thousand lives for field gained there. They reached the border of Dnipropetrovsk Oblast at one point.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,894 ✭✭✭✭Mr. CooL ICE


    iirc, that convoy was held off due to a group of 30ish volunteers. They were armed with sniper rifles and drones and moved on quad bikes. They were some of the earliest adopters of drone dropped grenades. Used to stay far enough away to avoid detection but close enough to observe the fuel trucks and commanders and picked them off.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,767 ✭✭✭circadian


    It's probably better for Ukraine if he forgets about them rather than making promises and pulling the rug whenever he feels like it. It might seem like a disadvantage to not have the attention of the US but in this case there's at least some consistency.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,386 ✭✭✭✭briany


    It's easy to forget how little territory Russia have gained since the opening phase of the war, i.e. between Feb 2022 and that year's winter. By FAR, their greatest gains were the land bridge established between occupied Donetsk and Crimea. If you go and look at Deepstatemap, and use the back in time feature to compare, say, 2023 to now, the difference is pathetic. Little salients jutting out, yes, but that's really it.

    The last big land grab in this conflict has been Ukraine's offensive to recapture Kherson in the south and Lyman in the north. It dwarfs what Russia have been able to do since.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,128 ✭✭✭✭cnocbui


    All EU countries, except Hungary, supported €30.6 billion in aid to Ukraine

    "In 2025, the European Union will provide Ukraine with €30.6 billion, of which €3.5 billion has already been allocated under the Facility for Ukraine, and €7 billion under the G7 ERA initiative, which is repaid through extraordinary revenues from frozen Russian assets," the document says.

    It is worth noting that Hungary is not able to block the actions of the rest of the EU states on this issue. Because of this, despite the Hungarian veto, aid to Ukraine continues to arrive.

    Earlier it was reported that all EU leaders, except Orban, were in favor of opening accession talks with Ukraine.

    Notice yet another use of frozen Orc assets.

    The opposition is ahead in polls in Hugary for the first time. If Orban wins again because its rigged, the EU really needs to extract the digit and solve the problem.

    Over the past year, the number of Hungarians who consider opposition leader Péter Magyar fit to govern the country has increased markedly, while Viktor Orbán, on the contrary, has fallen.

    This is evidenced by a survey by the Medián agency commissioned by the HVG.hu portal, writes European Pravda.

    According to the survey, more people consider Magyar "completely" or "rather" suitable to lead Hungary (53%) than Viktor Orbán (44%).



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 941 ✭✭✭Baba Yaga


    i think after the NATO conference and what he considers a "win" by getting Europe to agree on defense spending and getting b&b with the Dutch royals donnie is a happy camper for the moment…i do get the feeling putin is somewhere in the background…think putin has told donnie "listen comrade,you have won employee of month 6 times in last 6 months,you go golf and let victor of hungary have few turns"

    yo! donnie vonredactedpants,vlad putin,benji netanyahu,vic orban..you sirs are the skidmarks on the jocks of humanity!!!



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,685 ✭✭✭rogber


    This atrocious crime among the most disturbing things the Russian scum have done during this war



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,538 ✭✭✭Paddigol


    That's given me a throwback moment to 2022 when Ukraine used to pick off Russian commanders on regular basis. Russians seemed to be very slow learners… almost as thought the communication channels and lines of command were crap…



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 4,913 ✭✭✭Rawr


    I'm remembering an awful lot of Russian higher brass getting taken out at or near the front lines in 2022. It kind of highlighted how very few able professional soldiers Russia could field. Having such senior commanders right up at the front like that suggested that they were micro-managing their troops, likely due to a lack of experienced officers to spread the load, and rest being made up of feckless conscripts.

    I can't imagine it's gotten any better for them in the past 3 years. I wonder if they even have that much Top Brass left thanks to 2022 and various trips out of windows.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,117 ✭✭✭Patrick2010


    Lad from the Irish anti-war movement on Newstalk this morning giving out about Europe ramping up defense spending. When it was pointed out that Russia actually invaded a European country he said it was only after years of provocation. The tentacles of the Kremlin go deep in the west, look at how they've taken over the Republican party.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 14,867 ✭✭✭✭Igotadose


    Closer to home, I expect there are links to any political party with "Irish" in its name in Ireland. All the nativism nonsense spouted by these gobsh1tes is pure Kremlinism.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,167 ✭✭✭jmreire


    Yes, but like the rest of them. he stops far short of actually going to Russia, and helping Vladimir out…



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,705 ✭✭✭Dubh Geannain


    A strong man. How or why he was released I don't know but it seems kudos to Kellogg.

    More background on him.

    One of the most well-known Belarusian political prisoners, blogger Siarhei Tsikhanouskiwas released on June 21 following a visit to Belarus by Keith Kellogg, President Trump's special envoy for Ukraine.

    Tsikhanouski gave his first big interview since being freed to DW's Alexandra Boguslawskaja, who had also interviewed him five years ago in Belarus, shortly before his arrest.

    Tsikhanouski was detained in May 2020, after being denied registration as a presidential candidate challenging Alexander Lukashenko and later convicted to 18 years in prison. His wife, Sviatlana Tsikhanouskaya, assumed the candidacy and ran for presidency in his stead. She was forced to flee Belarus after Lukashenko claimed victory in an election, which observers label as rigged.  Tsikhaniuskaya has been living in Vilnius ever since and became the leader of the Belarusian democratic opposition in exile.

    Belarus: Tsikhanouski says his release gives people hope – DW – 06/26/2025

    Note the before and after photos of his interviews in the article.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,538 ✭✭✭Paddigol


    That's not even the depressing thing. What's really hard to stomach is how easily so many fools are taken in by them. Half the harmless, good craic 'Celtic fan', 'mon Ireland', 'celtic symbol tattoo' lads I'd know from years back parrot back their nonsense on social media now. "Look at these asylum seekers trashing a hotel. Disgrace! F**k them outa our country. And all those poor homeless Irish families an all"… F***ing head melts have no idea what absolute lemmings they're being taken for.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,538 ✭✭✭Paddigol


    EDIT: Delete… poxy Boards quote function strikes again



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,538 ✭✭✭Paddigol


    More courage and integrity in that man's pinky toe than any of the Ireland First d***heads who march through our streets appropriating our flag and promoting fear and hate. Good luck finding any of them who've ever contributed anything to society or the vulnerable sections of society they claim to be defending.

    You almost get the sense that Belarus is approaching a crossroads, which makes me as nervous as it does optimistic. A dictator is never more dangerous than when he's vulnerable.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,128 ✭✭✭✭cnocbui


    When I saw satellite photos of the factory building these, I thought the accommodation blocks might be the best target for strikes because Orcistans labour shortage is such they might be the hardest element to replace. At that point I thought the labour was local. Despite the likely condemnation, I still think they might be the best target and the effort they must go to get these women from Africa must be significant and time consuming, amplifying my original assessment of the value of the workers as targets.

    Things never change, this is like the Nazis in WW2 using slave labour to build the V2s



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,128 ✭✭✭✭cnocbui


    The UK will boost Ukraine’s air defence with 350 missiles using funds from seized Russian assets, helping to protect Ukrainians from Putin’s attacks.

    The ASRAAM missiles can be fired using the RAVEN Ground Based Air Defence System supplied by the UK to Ukraine, with five more RAVEN systems due for imminent delivery, bringing the total to 13.  

    Initially used as air-to-air missiles fired from fighter jets, RAF engineers adapted ASRAAM in just three months to be launched from the back of a UK designed and built truck, working with a British defence industry team from MBDA UK, based in Bolton. 

    The UK, together with allies, is stepping up its support for Ukraine – providing £4.5 billion of military support this year – more than ever before.  This support is vital to European security but is also supporting economic growth across the UK, supporting the Prime Minister’s Plan for Change and delivering a defence dividend across the UK.
    https://www.gov.uk/government/news/uk-to-provide-hundreds-of-air-defence-missiles-for-ukraine-with-money-from-seized-russian-assets

    £70m in interest from the Orc money paying for these missiles and the work done to create the system. They also came up with the Gravehawk system which is very similar, it's a standard shipping container with a section that opens up exposing a missile launcher that fires Ukrainian made R73 missiles. The US recently copied the idea.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,128 ✭✭✭✭cnocbui


    I never cease to be sickened by Ireland's miserly contributions to Ukraine. Under €500m in 3 years.



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