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Donald Trump the Megathread part II - mod warnings in OP, Updated 06/06/25

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,056 ✭✭✭yagan


    Most tellingly the US didn't return fire when Iran hit its bases and then there was a ceasefire.

    Interesting to see if netenyahu pulls back the idf from Gaza.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 27,674 ✭✭✭✭Peregrinus


    Well, it will be nice if you're right. But the last ceasefire he brokered collapsed fairly quickly, and his promises to broker a ceasefire in Ukraine have been quietly buried, so this is an area in which the man is definitely out of his depth. As I post, I see a headline that the Isaelis have just ordered more attacks on Iran, claiming that they are doing so because Iran has violated the ceasefire. And, honestly, are we in the least bit surprised at this?

    Tl;dr: I wouldn't rush to hail the greatness of Trump's acheivement here just yet if I were you. It might make you look a bit credulous.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,653 ✭✭✭Oscar_Madison
    #MEGA MAKE EUROPE GREAT AGAIN


    Yeah- Trump is excellent at making noise and grabbing headlines- he’s not at all good at slow diplomacy or patient negotiation - he doesn’t know how to do that- as a result, we’re guaranteed that there will be no lasting peace in Ukraine, in Gaza or indeed Iran under his reign as dictator of America



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,750 ✭✭✭✭Igotadose




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,270 ✭✭✭✭J Mysterio


    Reuters reporting Katz has instructed IDF to attack Iran for violating ceasefire



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,614 ✭✭✭Cody montana


    Is this sarcasm, I genuinely can’t tell anymore?


    From the daily mail

    “Trump's Middle East ceasefire breaks down almost immediately as Iran fires missiles and Israel vows to 'respond forcefully' after US president pleaded both sides not to violate agreement”



  • Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 18,684 Mod ✭✭✭✭Trigger


    MOD: Folks, a couple of posts deleted, other posters are not topic for discussion, please stick to the topic on hand.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 36,339 ✭✭✭✭odyssey06


    Amazing you posted this at a time when we have reputable news sources such as the BBC is reporting things like:
    The chief of the general staff of the Israel Defense Forces (IDF) says the military will "respond with force" to what it calls Iran's "severe violation".

    So what ceasefire "is in place"?

    'Another foreign success'. A vague claim made without any details, so you can't be pinned down on it, because you know you can't stand over it.

    Objectively self discrediting.

    I guess this is what Trump is aiming for, take their news from Trump's blowhard claims on social media instead of the reality on the ground.

    "To follow knowledge like a sinking star..." (Tennyson's Ulysses)



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,056 ✭✭✭yagan


    Bigly ceasefire didn't exist so.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,944 ✭✭✭Patrick2010


    Will be interesting to see what Karoline Lievett will say if quizzed about Trumps ceasefire



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,070 ✭✭✭Sweet.Science


    What a performance by the President. Came up Trumps :) when the world needed him.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,056 ✭✭✭yagan


    What inspired him to declare a ceasefire without any formal talks anywhere?

    This could backfire on netenyahu in that Trump may lose interest and walk away out of boredom.

    This is where the other middle eastern states know Trump loves praise but not detail.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,715 ✭✭✭✭salmocab


    the 12 day war is going to need a rebrand.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 925 ✭✭✭Baba Yaga


    i cant get my head around this…its ok for donnies bestie bibi and israel to blow the shite out of gaza,starve and shoot the crap out of the people,start lobbing missles at iran for the last fortnight or so,iran lob missles back and all of a sudden donnie steps in and bombs iran because the iranians are supposed to be making a nuclear bomb…?ok iran is run by a fairly evil regime and seem to hate everybody…. now just go a wee bit west and donnies other bestie is blowing the absolute shite out of Ukraine,russia is also run by a fairly evil regime but donnie doesnt want to do anything there,youd have to ask why…? maybe my world view is just too simple…and just now ive heard the"ceasefire"wasnt really a"ceasefire…?

    yo! donnie redacted,vlad putin,benji netanyahu..you sirs are the skidmarks on the jocks of humanity!!!



  • Moderators, Politics Moderators Posts: 43,292 Mod ✭✭✭✭Seth Brundle


    What exactly was the foreign policy success here?

    Given that Trump tore up the previous nuclear agreement which Iran was abiding by and Iran did not, as per the US Intelligence Services, did not have the capacity to develop nuclear arms (to which Trump claimed "I don't care"), how was the US engaging in military action a prudent move for the US? How exactly did it benefit US foreign policy? In fact, he even announced a ceasefire was in effect while Israel was bombing Tehran (despite Iranian denials of attacks)



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,573 ✭✭✭circadian


    12 and a half day war.

    The 12 day war that never was.



  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 42,365 CMod ✭✭✭✭ancapailldorcha


    I'd say that it's a fear of getting impeached combined with pissing off the MAGA loons.

    The foreigner residing among you must be treated as your native-born. Love them as yourself, for you were foreigners in Egypt. I am the LORD your God.

    Leviticus 19:34



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,535 ✭✭✭Wolf359f


    I was just going by what's available on wiki. Doesn't seem to be any other sources for the cost of Iran's missiles.

    Drones and the shorter range missiles are much cheaper, but for the latter, they can't strike Israel directly from Iran. They need to use their proxies (pretty much neutered now) or use the more expensive longer range missiles.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 40,862 ✭✭✭✭eagle eye


    He gave us George Bush, not his son.

    Trump jumped all over the board, Republican for two years, Reform party for a short time, Democrat for quite a while, a republican again, then denounced all parties and then Republican again.

    How on earth you can assign blame to Reagan for either of those is beyond me.

    Reagan was only a figure head, he did sfa. He left that to people who actually knew something about politics.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,075 ✭✭✭✭aloyisious




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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,750 ✭✭✭✭Igotadose


    Fairness doctrine gone.

    Brought the Evangeliban into an influential position in the GOP.

    Two things that led to someone as incompetent as GWB.



  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 42,365 CMod ✭✭✭✭ancapailldorcha


    The foreigner residing among you must be treated as your native-born. Love them as yourself, for you were foreigners in Egypt. I am the LORD your God.

    Leviticus 19:34



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 30,399 ✭✭✭✭breezy1985


    Well it looks like Israel are about to make him look like a b1tch yet again.

    Israel just ordered a fresh round of attacks.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,075 ✭✭✭✭aloyisious


    Query to the US people here, re the F/B and other sites allegations that there are paid agent bounty hunters using body armour, caps and masks identifying or portraying themselves as ICE or federal agency agents correct and likely or just B/S? One video was on F/B yesterday claiming to be from a woman carwash owner running 3 masked men in two SUVs off her premises as they did not show her warrants or badges to prove they were legit agents in seeking entry to her premises checking on her staff.

    There is so much faking going on on open media sites the truth is hard to see.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,080 ✭✭✭thatsdaft


    While we all distracted, Supreme Court okays deporting people to shithole countries



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 217 ✭✭tarvis


    For what reason is Trump going to the NATO summit. ?

    He openly supports Putin and Russia. NATO was created to prevent the march of Russia over Europe

    He denigrates Ukraine which was invaded by Russia years ago now and is being bombed by Russia on a daily basis.

    What is NATO for today ?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,096 ✭✭✭newhouse87


    Trump just told Israeli fighter pilots give friendly plane wave to Iranians and not to bomb. Whatever about all his terrible traits he is funny at times.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,849 ✭✭✭EltonJohn69


    https://www.reddit.com/r/PublicFreakout/s/gBxrGlcScw


    very colourful use of language by Donnie , looks like things might spiral out of control…..



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,609 ✭✭✭francois


    Israel have played him like a fiddle



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,270 ✭✭✭✭briany


    Any chance that's AI?

    I know Trump swears a lot in private meetings (and throws tomato sauce at the wall), although that's the first time I've heard him use 'fúck' so pointedly. Maybe it's slipped out at a rally before or something as well, though.



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