Israel Launches strike against Irans Nuclear Programme

Correct,if you have nukes,you’re fairly safe assuming you are responsible with them

Question is,do we trust a country whose leadership declares the likes of you and me as an infidel and whose global aim is to convert the lot of us into a system of living that compared to our society woul be a prisonous hell?

That’s a powerful driver here in a search for a way ahead

Iran in its current state definitely no nukes.

There is always a concern with unstable regimes and nukes but once they have them its difficult to get rid of them. hence the B2 raid

All the talk now about getting Iran back to the negotiation table etc... I think the more pressing issue is where the 400kgs of enriched uranium went.

I can just imagine if Iran comes back to the table and asked where the uranium is, they just point to Fordow and say it's buried in the rubble.

Good luck trying to account for it all.

So we’ve moved from “they’re enriching uranium” to “there too unstable to be trusted with any nuclear capacity at all”, even under inspection and within a framework they were complying with until the U.S. backed out.

That’s the crux of it, isn’t it? Not legality, not IAEA oversight, not even the NPT — just a belief that this country, unlike others with actual bombs, can’t be trusted at all.

Fine. But let’s not pretend it’s about enrichment levels anymore. It’s about deciding who’s allowed to play the game and who gets bombed for sitting at the table.

That’s the difference between us. I’m talking facts, frameworks, and oversight; you’re throwing slogans and hoping nobody notices the lack of an argument.

You haven’t addressed anything I’ve actually said, not the JCPOA, not the IAEA inspections, not the legal distinction between enrichment and weaponisation, and definitely not the hypocrisy of Israel bombing a monitored NPT signatory while holding undeclared nukes itself.

If “pull your head out of the sand” is all you’ve got left, I’ll take it as a concession.

You want one reason?

Because the U.S. pulled out of the JCPOA and reimposed sanctions. Iran responded by ramping up enrichment as a bargaining chip, not for power plants, not (yet) for weapons, but for leverage.

You don’t have to like it, but that is the reason.

And again — the IAEA is watching it. The material is declared. If this were a weapons program in disguise, we wouldn't have detailed enrichment breakdown like you posted.

So it is not a principle thing at all with you, it is about judgement. You trust Israel trying to have nuclear weapons, many people do not so you cannot have non-proliferation where there are those threats. Either it applies to all or it applies to none, anything in between is your own belief system in play.

I think even Mileikowsky is conceding that the bombing by America in Iran didn't not have the desired effect. The fact that Israel is not permitting access to their cities for journalists tell me the devastation in is big. The people are spending more and more time in bunkers. Hard to see how Israel recovers economically.

Diplomatically their fooked. They are the number 1 pariah state in the world. The U.S. is working hard to join them in second place. They are no longer seen as good faith participants in negotiations.

Ultimately we need the genocide in Gaza to stop. We need to see the ethno supremacist regime in Israel ended.

So the current Israeli regime is not unstable to you?

You’re quoting a June 2025 breach report after the whole deal collapsed. That’s not the crux, that’s the consequence.

Iran were complying with JCPOA until the U.S. pulled out and slapped sanctions back on. What exactly did people expect to happen after that, flowers and thank you cards? Of course they ramped things up.

None of this happened in a vacuum, and pretending it did is just rewriting history to suit the narrative. If you actually want de-escalation, you go back to the thing that was working not keep moving the goalposts until bombing looks like the only option.

Israel are believed to have Nukes they’ve proliferated there

That’s not relevant to other mad countries not having them yet being stopped

There’s principle in that objective

Who believes it, what measures have Israel agreed to stop gaining nuclear weapons?

So carrying our genocide is not an indication of a regime being unstable… according to your belief system?

I dont have a belief system.

Israel is perfectly capable of committing genocide with conventional weapons.

Are you just copy-pasting bits from random articles at this point? Genuinely not sure what you’re trying to argue anymore, it reads like a mash-up of headlines and IAEA footnotes with no clear point.

If you’re saying Iran was enriching “worrying amounts” since 2015, then why cite a 2014 report — from before the JCPOA even existed?

It’s hard to respond when the post itself feels like it doesn’t know what it’s saying.