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Russia-Ukraine War (continuing)

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 38,201 ✭✭✭✭BorneTobyWilde


    This bill is forever put on hold . Hopefully it happens soon



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,130 ✭✭✭✭cnocbui




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,130 ✭✭✭✭cnocbui


    The bill is pointless window dressing if Krasnov has any say in it's execution. In it's original form it was great, because it would have bypassed Krasnov and made things happen that Krasnov doesn't want happening.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,139 ✭✭✭✭AMKC
    Ms


    Yep thats just what we need to happen China attacking Russia. Then Putin would really **** himself. Come on China take your land back. For the good of the World.

    Live long and Prosper

    Peace and long life.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 199 ✭✭Mannesmann




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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,139 ✭✭✭✭AMKC
    Ms


    Yes he would be overstretched and Russias economy is only going one way down so hopefully they would end the war with Ukraine so it would benefit Ukraine to have this happen.

    Live long and Prosper

    Peace and long life.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 199 ✭✭Mannesmann


    Maybe Zelensky should be talking to the Chinese?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,692 ✭✭✭Infini


    China invading Russia to take back it's land is unlikely, they're not stupid and are generally more pragmatic. Even for all the bluster about Taiwan they know well enough that it's an extremely poor gamble to try and take an island that is not only hostile to the CCP but who's invasion would likely trigger major economic consequences for them as well. It's a move with high risk and low reward. What's much more likely is that the Chinese are going to wait till Russia is on it's knees economically and militarily and THEN they'll push for that land not through invasion but through a bailout, Russia's economy at it's current rate is likely going to collapse once the mounting damage from Putin's Vainglorious War eventually hits a terminal point. Once Putin and friends are out the window that's the point they approach whoever's running what's left of Russia and offer them a deal they cant refuse: An economic bailout in return for the purchase of all the land the Russian's took in the 19th century and whatever else they can wring out of them. This is exactly what happened to Russia back in the late 19th Century, they were forced to sell off Alaska to the US to pay off the bills they got for getting their asses whooped in the Crimean War. Getting back the likes of Outer Manchuria would keep the CCP busy for decades and at that point they'd likely shy off bothering with Taiwan for the foreseeable future.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,911 ✭✭✭JJayoo


    Exactly whip it out and piss all over that goblin dwarf cnut



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,097 ✭✭✭Polar101


    Don't worry, Russia and China have a Treaty of Good-Neighborliness and Friendly Cooperation, so any conflict is definitely off the table forever.

    (/s obviously)

    Not sure why China would want Russian wastelands, though.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,517 ✭✭✭thatsdaft


    “Not sure why China would want Russian wastelands, though.”

    These were Chinese “wastelands” that were stolen from China, about 4-5 Ukraines in size where Russian colonialist squatters remain to this day after humiliating China for a century

    Beside resources stolen from China, good old fashioned living space

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    Keep in mind all of this annexed land is below the same latitude as Dublin


    Finally Russia had an alliance and friendship with Germany in early 20th century even splitting up Poland and training their troops and transferring technology, that ended erm in tears, just ask Ukrainians what they think of Russian “friendship” or Iranians this week about Russian “alliance”



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,834 ✭✭✭✭TheValeyard


    Rumours of a Ukrainian counter offensive in the Sumy region. Going to wait and see if the usual sources pick up on this.

    They have been slowly liberating areas over the past week.

    Looks like I picked the wrong week to quit sniffing glue



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,130 ✭✭✭✭cnocbui


    I read recently that Putrid had ordered her to lower the interest rate. He must have thought she was raising it for fun. Looks like they are headed for stagflation, which can easily be a death spiral.

    The economic crisis in Russia is intensifying. The construction sector tops the list of wage arrears, according to Ukraine's Center for Countering Disinformation (CCD).

    Official Russian statistics can no longer hide the worsening economic situation in the country.

    Another major problem is there is a significant labour shortage in the construction industry, because guess where the press gangs go looking for fresh meat first? Large numbers were immigrant workers, exactly the preferred type of sacrificial meat. Now of course, there aren't enough workers to build things - or fix things that get unbuilt.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 880 ✭✭✭junkyarddog


    https://bsky.app/profile/wartranslated.bsky.social/post/3lsbiv4a42s23

    "Hungary and Slovakia have blocked the adoption of the 18th sanctions package against Russia." — Hungarian Foreign Minister Péter Szijjártó.

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    Two fools still doing their masters bidding!



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 880 ✭✭✭junkyarddog


    https://bsky.app/profile/darthputinkgb.bsky.social/post/3lsbag7vxmk2h

    OTD in 2023 Prigozhin said we were lying about the reasons Russia invaded Ukraine. In unrelated news, he was killed soon after.

    Two years ago already!!



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 37,076 ✭✭✭✭odyssey06


    Yes, incredible some people including posters here go to bat for the false narrative Russia peddle about the reasons for the invasion in the face of all the objective evidence. The lies the Russians peddled about NATO, the lies about protecting ethnic Russians… it is a war of plunder and conquest, to take all of Ukraine as its eventual goal.

    Including Putin saying things like "the whole of Ukraine is ours" and… "We have a saying, or a parable," Putin said. "Where the foot of a Russian soldier steps, that is ours."

    https://www.reuters.com/world/europe/putin-says-the-whole-ukraine-is-ours-theory-may-take-city-sumy-2025-06-20/

    "To follow knowledge like a sinking star..." (Tennyson's Ulysses)



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 969 ✭✭✭techman1


    The problem is that Vatnik Russia is likely one of the main factors which emboldened Iran if not outright pushed them to press their proxies to instigate 7/10 in Israel

    I wonder has any link been found yet between Russia and the October 7 attacks? I think even if there is there would be alot of vested interests in Israel and Maga movement to keep it all secret for now. Trump would be in a very difficult position given his friendship with putin if this link ever became public, he would then be forced to confront putin.

    Israel would also want to keep it secret for now as they want to keep Trump focused on them and not on diverting weapons back to Ukraine to confront putin. It's intriguing that so little information has been released regarding who knew what about October 7, it's like everything has gone hush hush



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,139 ✭✭✭✭AMKC
    Ms


    Kick them countries both out of Europe so. I know it's not there people that cause this but either there people rise up or them countries get kicked out of the EU.

    Live long and Prosper

    Peace and long life.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,139 ✭✭✭✭AMKC
    Ms


    Yes he Should be.

    Live long and Prosper

    Peace and long life.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,685 ✭✭✭rogber


    Another massive attack on Kyiv overnight by the Russian scum, many dead and injured:



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,517 ✭✭✭thatsdaft


    Post edited by thatsdaft on


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,112 ✭✭✭RoyalCelt


    China probably hoping Russia collapses so they could do this without it being an issue. Maybe they're keeping Russia economically on life support to prolong the war and make a collapse more likely.

    I'd like to see China return that land. Maybe if the West supports the move they'll lay off Taiwan for a few decades.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,538 ✭✭✭Paddigol


    I don't think kicking them out is the way to go. It would make a farce of the EU and would actually play into the hands of those who want to grown divisions and see it disintegrate. You can't have a situation where countries are hopping in and out of the Union. Instead, the EU really needs to look at giving itself the ability to freeze monetary benefits and voting rights of members who have been found by the rest of the members to be undermining the fundamental - FUNDAMENTAL - principles of the EU. It's just as much as farce that they're allowed to openly weaken the foundations of one of the world's greatest achievements from within.

    It would then fall to the citizens of that State to make a decision - either continue to suffer the withdrawal of most of the benefits of being in the EU by voting the government back in, or get rid of them and switch those benefits back on. And if the government isn't voted out/ the govt. policies don't shift back in alignment with FUNDAMENTAL EU policies, then a process of expelling that country should be capable of being triggered.

    Makes no sense to go through/ be half way through a complex and expensive process of kicking Hungary out only for Orban to lose an election and the next government to reapply to join. The last thing we need are more Eastern European electorates turned away from the EU by media-controlling autocrats. It'd be a long way back from there.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 17,543 ✭✭✭✭astrofool


    Another failed russian assassination attempt on Zelensky:

    https://www.newsweek.com/zelensky-assassination-plot-foiled-what-know-2089353

    putin looking increasingly desperate.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 4,913 ✭✭✭Rawr


    Returning what was «Outer Manchuria» to China might placate them from trying for Taiwan for a bit…or it might even make them more hungry for the attempt.

    One other thing to be careful of is Sakhalin Island, which would likely also be returned. This borders very closely with Japan’s Hokkido island. Although the Russians are no friends to the Japanese at all…they’re pretty mild compared to the anti-Japanese rhetoric that many grow up with in China. The potential for a serious incident/war could increase a good deal if Chinese territory gets that close to Japan.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 680 ✭✭✭Bitcoin


    More desperation from putrid. When things aren't going well he goes back to the only tactic he knows, having people killed.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,834 ✭✭✭✭TheValeyard


    Maybe this assassination game should work both ways.

    Looks like I picked the wrong week to quit sniffing glue



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,315 ✭✭✭Large bottle small glass


    EU has never really recovered from the 2008 financial crash and the immigration crisis. Brexit hasn't helped either.

    There is just too many different voices and no united central power or even message.

    Economically it has worked very well generally but politically it's a mess.

    People calling for Hungary and Slovakia to be expelled might outline the process, as far as I can see there isn't one. Article 7 allows for the suspension of voting rights, after some endless process, but not expulsion.

    The more it attempts to lurch to a single voice be it on security, economy or whatever the more cracks will appear.

    It's a limp dick of an entity and it's indecisiveness has resulted in much unnecessary Ukrainian blood.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,838 ✭✭✭macraignil


    " ..it's indecisiveness has resulted in much unnecessary Ukrainian blood. "

    The EU is in no way to blame for putin's terrorist state attacking and murdering thousands of Ukrainians no mater how many times you repeat this kremlin sponsored ho**es**t. putin is the one with the inadequacy issues that see him try to be a big man in such a perverse way as leading a country to the genocide of their neighbours and trying to redraw international borders to make the biggest country by land area in the world even bigger.

    Meanwhile the armed forces of Ukraine continue to make life difficult for putin's terrorist state.

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,211 ✭✭✭yagan


    China already has massive solar farms in Russia, but it's doing well enough paying Russia a cheap rent.



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