Clampdown on TV 'Dodgy Boxes'

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The music industry sorted this out eventually. The TV & film industry is either extraodinarily stupid or just blinded by greed if they think the multiplicity of separate streaming services can continue to survive as is. Netflix worked when everything was on it as people perceived it was value for money. Imagine when DVD came out, if the film studios insisted on differing formats of DVDs and players that could only play their own titles. It wouldn't have got far…..

In my family (including in laws) there are 6 IPTV subs. 4 of them have never paid for Sky TV ever. The other 2 have kept Sky and for over 2 years use IPTV as a backup for viewing they cant get here or working abroad on any legit sub / package. I dont know anyone that has cancelled Sky to directly replace with IPTV.

Sky are losing customers but I think they're vastly over estimating how much that is down to "dodgy box" users.

it’s hilarious watching sky pissing into the wind while using an ashtray on a motorbike. There going to have to restructure to combat it.

If they offered all premier league games for 30 a month pay as you go monthly I’d probably subscribe for a good quality service. I don’t give a crap about your commentary listening to fecking Michael Richard’s and Jamie redknapp, formula one, tennis, la liga, cricket or other things like sky Atlantic shows or your other crappy sky stations on repeat you show that im paying extra for in my package. Add them on as extras.

it’s hilarious watching sky pissing into the wind while using an ashtray on a motorbike. There going to have to restructure to combat it.

If they offered all premier league games for 30 a month pay as you go monthly I’d probably subscribe for a good quality service.

They don't get the opportunity to offer all premier league games, the EPL don't allow them to do it in the UK or Irish market.

So what restructure they do, within the limits that are on them from the EPL and that still allows them to remain in business ?

its clearly obvious the whole model is a bust, and is now in rapid collapse, we ve no idea where its gonna end up, but you can be damn sure, all attempts to demonise iptv users, is gonna fail!

you do have to accept, broadcasting does cost a fortune, but there clearly is also an element of greed in all of this, its clearly gonna collapse, so let the broadcasters deal with it, they either change, or they dont, i do accept changing such complex sectors, is simply that, but broadcasters have to accept at some stage, the whole model is a bust

What I would need to see to switch from a dodgy box back to sky would be choice, better service and better technology.

Similar to somebody else who posted recently, I use my dodgy box nearly exclusively for Formula 1. If there was an option available to me to just subscribe to sky f1 I'd be interested. But I'm not going to sign up to sky q or sky stream and take a TV package I wouldn't use first and then add it on.

The other but is that now tv isn't good enough for my needs. I try to watch the f1 live, but obviously with races on Sundays that's not always possible. On my dodgy service the sky f1 channel has catch up available as soon as a scheduled programme ends. So if I miss the start of a race it's available to watch in 2 hours. On now they don't (or at least didn't, last time I checked) have a way to watch the f1 from the start if I am available to watch late and the catch up takes a random and long length of time to appear.

If they solved those technical issues for me and offered a relatively fair price I'd go back legit, no problem.

The need for a TV package before you can add sports hurts people using satellite or stream service. The lack of features on now hurts the online service. Improve one or the other and it might help.

I still have a Netflix sub, never thought of canceling it.

I know I could probably get everything that's on it on my firestick, but OH likes the handiness of Netflix.

You could say that's just a return to the natural order of things. For virtually all of recorded history, musicians earned their keep by performing for people in person. The only exceptions might have been an exalted few who were given a patronage by a royal court or something. Everyone else, it was day to day.

It's only maybe a 40 year stretch between the mid 60s and the mid 2000s where you could reasonably expect to make good money off of album sales even as a mid-level act. Those days are gone, and now the recorded music serves principally as promotional material for the live show. But the barrier of entry into the music biz is also now far lower. You can even record your records at home to a fairly pro standard, if you know what you're doing, and upload it to social media the same day.

When you see some of the ticket prices for concerts now, it's hard to understand how they aren't making serious profit.

AVM Fritz!Box 7530 or 7590 (or better) …. have both and use Proton VPN via wireguard.

I recently bought a used 7530 for €31.50 delivered by post.

The amount Sky spend on F1 must be insane. When all they need at a race, is two commentators, a reporter and the relevant crew. The rest could all be done from their studio in London.

tis a lot more than just commentators folks, the background technical staff and facilitates thats required to run a sporting event is astonishing, its the overall costs is where its at

I don't think we're far off from the premier League going their own route in streaming the games themselves. Sky becomes completely irrelevant then, most the TV channels are freeview and I doubt the other sports they show make up a fraction of the subscribers to premier league football.

They do, but because sky have the broadcast rights in UK and Ireland we can't use it.