Hamas strike on Israel - mod warning in OP updated 19/10/23

The terrorist state isn't even denying these killings - just throwing out some vague pronouncements that 'somebody else' must have been responsible for the killings.

Fewer and fewer places to hide

"A review into Israel's compliance with its human rights obligations, enshrined in its trade and political relations with the European Union, will be circulated to member states later today.

The review, which was ordered by EU foreign policy chief Kaja Kallas, is expected to find that Israel is in violation of Article 2 of the EU-Israel Association Agreement in its conduct of the Gaza war."

https://www.rte.ie/news/europe/2025/0620/1519437-eu-israel/

And this is why a "regime" change in Occupied Palestine won't work (that language should work both ways). It's not just the top brass. I mean they're democratically elected after all (what with them being the only democracy and all that) so they're therefore representing a sizable portion of their population. The whole state is just rotten to the core.

https://x.com/MonitorX99800/status/1933898382554087495?t=EsuAdoVE32WhaLAwgoT3zg&s=19

Don't like posting links to accounts that can't be verified (otherwise you start referring to people like Imshin who say a famine isn't happening in Gaza)

But if this is the true.... oh the **** irony.... Israel with military facilities underneath a hospital? Can this be filed under use of human shields?!

They are going to defer action... in other words nothing will happen in the end. They'll have a further review and make out Israel is now complying with Article 2 so nothing to see here..... The nauseating hypocrites like Ursula will still have the audacity to lecture other countries about breaking international law and violating Human rights.

At it again -

"Israeli forces have killed 23 Palestinians after opening fire on crowds gathered near an aid distribution site, witnesses and medics say.

Tanks and drones fired at thousands of people near a distribution centre in central Gaza run by the US and Israel-backed Gaza Humanitarian Foundation (GHF), the witnesses and medics said."

https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/cd0vgerp402o

As posted by @Odhinn, seems the decision is either in or very close:

A review of Israel's conduct of the war in Gaza by the EU has concluded that it is "in breach" of the human rights obligations of the EU-Israel Association Agreement, according to an extract of the report seen by @rtenew

Or maybe the IDF are just doing what they do best?

https://edition.cnn.com/2025/06/04/middleeast/israel-military-gaza-aid-shooting-intl-invs

Oof, that Tucker Carlson / Ted Cruz sitdown was brutal. For Ted.

At least Ted laid bare some of the more far-out psychology behind his support of Israel, i.e. the Bible's teaching that those who bless Israel will be blessed in return.

It's one thing having strategic reasoning for backing Israel, but superstition needs to be left out of it.

The people saying Israel shouldn't bomb a terrorist command centre because it kills civilians are saying just that. Sure Israel might as well hang up their guns and be wiped off the map by the terror groups who've made it plain that's their intention.

It should be, but what we get is the American christian zionist ambassador to Israel -

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2025/jun/10/mike-huckabee-independent-palestinian-state

Hamas were defeated 9 months ago according to the IDF. That might explain the lack of focus on them.

https://www.timesofisrael.com/idf-assesses-hamas-defeated-military-in-all-of-gaza-is-now-a-guerrilla-terror-group/

The focus now and rightly so is about the forced starvation and random killings by the IDF\Israeli Government on the innocent population of 2 million people trapped in Gaza.

The report below from yesterday shows the key condition is an end to the war.

I posted an interesting (to me) piece a week or two ago - seems there is a disconnect/difference of opinion between Hamas in Gaza and Hamas in Qatar.

For the protection of 2 million, of course they should surrender, return the hostages and leave Gaza. I don't know if the word "surrender" was used, but have offered the other two for months now - if the war ends. Presumably that amounts to surrender.

The difficulty is trust - if Hamas do accede, would Israel stop the war? Would they open the borders for unlimited aid? Will they provide shelter, rebuild hospitals, rebuild schools, repair infrastructure? Or would they keep the Palestinians in an area only one fifth the size they previously had and Israel retains military control of the 80% indefinitely. Perhaps they will go ahead and settle northern Gaza and hope the Palestinians leave rather than live in appalling conditions.

I think it's a really really difficult situation with an equally difficult solution that no-one wants to sign up to. And the relationship between Hamas Gaza and Hamas Qatar doesn't appear to be helping.

Hamas is aware of pressure to advance negotiations due to Israel's success in the campaign against Iran, but they will agree to a deal only if it leads to an end of the war a Palestinian source told Haaretz.

"Hamas will not rush into a deal as long as the war in Iran continues and the fate of its patron is unclear," an Israeli source told Haaretz. Another source expressed hope that the damage to the Iranian regime would convince senior Hamas officials that it is better for them to agree to a deal.

According to Palestinian sources, Palestinian-American businessman Bashar al-Masri continues to hold talks with Hamas, but has not yet achieved substantial progress. Senior Hamas leaders in Doha recently dismissed reports of progress in negotiations, calling them a coercive effort without a guarantee to end the war.

Still active? Maybe a few members are still alive. When was the last time someone from Hamas inflicted any injury to the IDF?

I am not for a second defending a terrorist group but this what about Hamas narrative is just straight out of the Israeli playbook and not as subtle as you think it seems.

My concern is for the 2 million non Hamas citizens of Gaza who are being starved to death. It's disgusting what is happening.

Great it would be nice to see you calling out what's happening in Gaza then instead of the what about Hamas routine you previously mentioned.

Anyway I'm out. I don't know how any human with access to the current news can try and whatabout the current situation in Gaza it's disgusting.