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EU vice president criticises Ireland

  • 19-06-2025 10:04PM
    #1
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,770 ✭✭✭


    Kaja Kallas,EU vice president for foreign affairs and security affairs criticising Irish neutrality.Says that Ireland has no understanding of being suppressed/threatened by a foreign powers i.e. Russia.Claims that Ireland has prospered since the 2nd world war by not arming up.

    A case of another EU/Foreign Government official displaying their total ignorance of Irish history.



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Comments

  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 28,469 ✭✭✭✭drunkmonkey


    Suppressed by a runaway spending government at the moment, Can’t afford KerryGold, where’s she think l can get the money for a RB-57, I’ve put her in the crazy pile long ago.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,091 ✭✭✭MFPM


    Her ignorance of history demonstrated in her patronising speech today is not half as bad as her support for genocide, mass slaughter of children, forced starvation, illegal bombings, mass displacement. A vile person.



  • Moderators, Sports Moderators, Paid Member Posts: 32,738 Mod ✭✭✭✭Podge_irl


    I think objections to her comments reflect a gross ignorance of eastern European history



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,575 ✭✭✭.Donegal.


    She said “Ireland not having a modern-day understanding of "atrocities, mass deportations, suppression of culture and language".

    Bit of a mouthy dose.



  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators Posts: 20,689 Mod ✭✭✭✭Sam Russell


    I think she does not understand Irish people have a long memory when it comes to famine, language suppression, religious and culture suppression.

    When it comes to atrocities, 1972 would be modern-day, wouldn't it? Even today, the British Gov is suppressing information of their secret activities that they undertook since 1972 to 1998 in NI.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 26,087 ✭✭✭✭Kermit.de.frog


    She's 100% right and like the rest of them fed up with the representatives of a country that contributes nothing to western security and doesn't even take it's own security seriously pontificating to those under direct threat on "peace".

    Many in that room would have gone much further.

    The representative in question also comes from a party that wants "the Brits" to have a veto over our defence forces.

    That's how messed up SF's whole position is.

    Embarrassing.

    Post edited by Kermit.de.frog on


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 27,555 ✭✭✭✭pjohnson


    I guessed it'd be that Estonian header before I clicked.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,094 ✭✭✭PeadarCo


    My guess is that she isn't referring to NI and seen in that context she's right if you just include living memory.

    And if even you do include NI, what happened in NI is child's plan when you looked at what happened before and during WW2 and then the cold war. The Ukraine war is very close to the bone. I get where the OP is coming from and the OP has a point. But at the same time the OP's reaction shows a huge amount of ignorance to Estonian history of the last 100 odd years/living memory. The Irish aren't the only culture that was suppressed.



  • Moderators, Business & Finance Moderators Posts: 11,167 Mod ✭✭✭✭Jim2007


    Ireland's policy of neutrality is in part due to Ireland not having a modern-day understanding of "atrocities, mass deportations, suppression of culture and language".

    So which part is wrong then?

    Were we not neutral to the point of offering the Nazis condolences on the death of Hitler? Were not the vast majority of our imports carried on British ships at the cost of the British merchant navy, coast guard and navy?

    it would seem she has a far better command of history that you or the usual SF clown show has…



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 79,468 ✭✭✭✭FrancieBrady


    it would seem she has a far better command of history that you or the usual SF clown show has…

    The successive governments of Ireland since independence have said we are militarily neutral and still support not joining a military alliance.
    You can fully understand 'atrocities, mass deportations, suppression of culture and language; without partaking in them or suffering them.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,326 ✭✭✭Montage of Feck


    Given some of the absolute loons we've sent to Europe we are in no position to be calling her a "header".

    🙈🙉🙊



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 12,049 ✭✭✭✭J Mysterio


    Her comments were deeply ignorant, unhelpful, and unwelcome. I'm very surprised with her, a person who is normally measured.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 1,079 ✭✭✭_Puma_


    Sad to see our once great Foreign affairs department becoming absolute pariahs on the European and world stage by the absolute loons that we have allowed to drive policy.

    Kaja kallis is absolutely spot on to be calling out the pontification our "dear leaders" are parroting on supposedly our behalf.



  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators Posts: 20,689 Mod ✭✭✭✭Sam Russell


    Many of the troops who fought on the British side were born in Ireland, or their parents were. This was true in WW I as well.

    Ireland were neutral on the side of the Allies, and provided much covert support to the Allies, such as the weather reports - particularly the one that delayed D-Day by a day because of an incoming storm, reported by Black Sod Bay in a routine report.

    There was one idiot (Lord Haw Haw) in Berlin broadcasting Nazi propaganda, and one idiot in Dublin who went and offered sympathy to the German representative on the death of Hitler. The whole nation should not be judged by such people.

    Britain had a former King who fraternized with Hitler and stood to be King again if Britain fell to a Nazi invasion, but we should not judge them by the actions of such people.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,091 ✭✭✭MFPM


    So much nonsensical hyperbole in that post. If we are pariahs to the warmongers leading Europe and championing the slaughter of children at the moment then so be it.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,770 ✭✭✭beachhead


    J Mysterio #13 — it's not her first time making derogatory comments



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 690 ✭✭✭michael-henry-mcivor


    Has the Vice president of foreign affairs apologised to the Irish people yet-



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,770 ✭✭✭beachhead


    SF MEP is on the case



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,326 ✭✭✭Montage of Feck


    If we're going with loony left policies I'd rather it was in housing not foreign affairs.

    🙈🙉🙊



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,091 ✭✭✭MFPM


    Loony right propagating for war, cheering on the mass slaughter of children , forced displacement and starvation but yeah, the 'loony left'...



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  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    The objections are to her lack of knowledge of Irish history which is very clear. She stated that Ireland has thrived since 1945 which my parents and grandparents seemed to have missed.

    Our collective knowledge of Post-WWII USSR is pretty good. She's an idiot, and a genocide-supporting idiot at that. Killing babies ain't cool.



  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    Lorrd Haw-Haw was American, of Irish stock. Spent a brief time in school in Galway before joining the British army here (the IRA attempted to kill him at least once) but mostly in England where he was a member of Oswald Mosley's fascists for 7 years before moving to Germany. A US citizen, and they're welcome to him.



  • Moderators, Business & Finance Moderators Posts: 11,167 Mod ✭✭✭✭Jim2007


    And not a single word takes away from what I said….



  • Moderators, Business & Finance Moderators Posts: 11,167 Mod ✭✭✭✭Jim2007


    The only problem Francie is the Irish voters have decided differently in a couple of referenda now…. They have committed us to the treaties of Rome and that includes mutual assistance to all member states if asked and in that resepect Irish troops have been dispatched at the request of France in the past.

    The reality is that we are at best neutral on the side of the west and in reality we are most definitely not a neutral state in the eyes of the belligerent world. The days of expecting others to defend our way of life is over, even here in Switzerland we've figured that one out - joining the air defence initiative, supplying tanks to Germany (you promise you won't send them to the Ukraine, right? Ya sure), participating in some of the up coming EU rearmament projects etc.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 79,468 ✭✭✭✭FrancieBrady


    Up to the government to honestly articulate where we stand. And so far they categorically state we are militarily neutral.

    Whither the real clown show Jim?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 576 ✭✭✭exiledawaynothere


    She is right and wrong. Ignorant yes but her overall point is that we are freeloading. Ireland needs to get on board with a whole of Europe defence pact which means we contribute - I would also suggest we can play a role in the technology side of the defence industry and gain some economic benefits. We need a proper army and navy now, and while we are at it we should build nuclear power stations. We have no leadership on these issues.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,017 ✭✭✭circadian


    There were no official condolences to Nazi Germany. That is a myth.



  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    So you're recommending that we heed the scaremongering and spend an enormous portion of our GDP on weaponry to resist the imminent invasion of Russia/China/Iran/the latest baddie?



  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    Strongly opposed by the public, as displayed by consistent polling. 63% pro-neutrality in the last major poll 2 months ago, only 29% opposed. And this despite a push for us to become more involved. I'm very happy with our government not allying militarily with the warmongering nations of NATO and we don't need to spend excessive cash subsidising the Military-Industrial Complex. Bigger issues at home require funding.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 256 ✭✭Noworries!


    Why do you think it's fair that someone else pays for something which Ireland is supposed to be a part of? I mean the whole European adventure is not supposed to be pick and choose which parts we agree with, we really are a juvenile country when it comes to it. Student union masquerading as a government. I feel at one stage we were admired for our neutrality, now we're just smirked at for our inability to understand that waving our little white flags doesn't make us immune from attack.



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