Clampdown on TV 'Dodgy Boxes'

Yes it's one thing f@@king over Sky and Mohammed Salah, it's another thing f@@king over your local GAA club and the kids who play there.

Clubber, not GAA+ (formerly GAAGo)

Clubber shows local club games.

He could drop his prices to compete if he was that bothered about being hit hard, €11 a game is a bit much in fairness

Adrian Weckler was on the breakfast show and reckons we might start getting cease and desist letters in the letterbox

You have no idea how much it costs to produce the content Clubber produce (neither have I), but I think your suggestion of just dropping the price may be a bit of an oversimplification.

how would that work? they dont have the details of ordinary people "availing" of these services without serious GDPR issues?

Alcaraz and Sinner - but mostly the latter on this thread :)

Hard to beat the proper IPTV setup though with 1000s of channels (with TV guide) / movies / box sets all in 1 app running on a proper player (e.g. VLC).

Wouldnt be arsed messing with a browser / blockers for viewing on a decent sized TV.

Great for people overseas though.

There are still large amounts of people living abroad that follow their local club.

I just saw the Indo front page in a shop. Very prominent placing of the dodgy box story, eye catching.

DPC is engaging with Sky to remind it about the lawful use of personal data.

Sky would do well to heed how well that worked out for the likes of the RIAA when it came to music downloads 20 years ago. ie. they only won phyrric victories and got utterly shat on for sicing lawyers on children. They were ultimately forced into changing their outdated buisness models. The likes of sky fail to comprehend that users arent lost sales, they're people they would not have in the first place as they charge too much and people in this economy are not going to spend ridicuous amounts on money for clearly overpriced products.

Are the lads here going to hide behind their children as well?

on prime time tonight at 10pm, gonna be complete scutter.

Unless you lock down the internet like North Korea to internal servers there is nothing ye can do dipshits.

There are the echos of illegal mp3 downloading from 25 years ago with these dodgy boxes. History could repeat.

The dodgy box may well prove to be hugely disruptive.

I recall when Napster, Kazaa and limewire were all ubiquitous with younger age groups. Very quickly you had a generation or two who scoffed at the idea of paying 15 quid for a cd only to have to rip it on a pc to listen to it on the new iPod.

Rather than identifying changing listening habits and rethinking its business model the record companies tried use the legal system to put the toothpaste back in the tube but it was in vain. Not only that but targeting users with 100k fine per infringement was seen as totally disproportionate it didn’t nothing to address the problem. Any sympathy towards labels had evaporated.

Eventually the likes of Apple and Spotify managed to strike the right balance and give people convenience and perceived value for money. Illegal downloading died. Overall the music industry stopped being the cash machine it had been for decades.

I’m not defending the use of dodgy boxes but it’s just an observation.

There will have to be a reckoning that broadcast rights have been massively overpaid for. By passing these costs onto the customer they’ve driven a huge amount away towards alternatives.

I expect the current business model will not survive. Dodgy boxes are not going away until broadcasters offer something different to the public.