Israel Launches strike against Irans Nuclear Programme

Do you feel threatened with Pakistani nukes? They are not very far from Iran. Do you feel threatened with Russian and US nukes? One crazy man can destroy the world we know. W

Putting aside the waving away of the death to the west/Israel must be destroyed comments as harmless domestic product.

Is the fact that it's post-revolution Iran who initiated the proxy war decades back by severing relations with Israel and heavily funding lslamist militias in the countries around Israel lost on people?

Do they genuinely not understand that, or do they not want to understand?

The idea that Iran needs and deserves a bomb to "defend itself from Israel" is utterly insane. Israel had not the faintest interest in Iran whatsoever until the current regime took power and declared Israel enemy number one.

Amazing coincidence that every country Israel has problems with are the same countries heavily funded by Iran, but yet Iran is completely blameless and Israel is the hateful war-monger attacking them for no reason.

I don't disagree, but a nuclear armed Israel, in the current situation, will never let Iran weaponise.

Iran don't hold many cards and it's not like they have no agency - they are in a situation largely of their own making, endlessly attacking and provoking a powerful neighbour for years, a neighbour who holds all the cards. Again, poking a hornets nest and complaining when getting stung.

Obviously Iran's best policy is to stop weaponising, stop firing endless missiles into Israel via proxy groups and gradually come in from the cold - but for the Khamenei regime that is unthinkable. They function the perpetual hostility/defiance/victim doctrine against a much more powerful foe. So we have the situation we have today.

And now Iran are launching rockets at Israeli hospitals… Will the streets of Dublin be lined with anti-Iranian protestors this weekend because of this? Or is it ok since it happened to Israel?

There can’t be regime change unless America invades Iran or there is a revolution.

Also, I notice most western governments (bar the loon in the Oval Office) are very uncomfortable around the idea of regime change or being seen to try and cause it.

The only regime changes required is in Israel. Israel's sense of security invincibility has been shattered. They are getting a taste of what they did to Gaza.

You're completely misinterpreting this. He's obviously saying that difficult days are worth if it prevents a nuclear bomb one day hitting Israel

Iran having been waging a Proxy war with Israel for 30 years. If they get the bomb, it will

a) Start a nuclear arms race in the Middle East

b) Embolden them to widen their proxy war against Israel and others.

Both are these are not good things, regardless who you support or done support.

Its a bit mad that people are actively wishing for more Nuclear weapons in one of the most unstable, volatile and violent regions in the world.

Let's take a step back from some of the mindless rhetoric here, and look at some points:

Watching and reading reports and discussions from around the world, a few things are clear:

1. Israel has underestimated the scope and capabilities of the Iranian ballistic and hypersonic missile programmes.

2. Israel is lying about two things: firstly, Iran was at least a year away from having a viable nuclear weapon of a size similar to the Trinity test bomb. In fact, while they may have enriched fissile material to between 60 and 80%, they still have not figured out a viable trigger mechanism. Secondly, Israel had not caused the damage to the extent it is telling us. In fact, Israel has been taken by surprise at the capabilities of the newer S/A air-defence missiles which is now forcing Israel to fire stand-off weapons from outside Iranian airspace.

3. There is now a widely held belief that Iran has moved much of its hardware in relation to missile stocks, production and Nuclear development far to the East of the country, and has had this contingency plan in place for a long time. There is evidence that Iran has war-gamed this exact scenario, and has the capability to slowly and steadfastly degrade the Israeli military structure over a much longer time than Israel can afford.

I believe that we will see a gradual stepping-up in veracity of Iranian attacks over the coming days, with the targets in Israel becoming more existential in response to Israeli bombing.

Just on the use of the deep penetrative ordinance that would be needed to reach the underground facilities in Iran. These can only be dropped by a B-2 stealth bomber or B-52, and they are not a stand-off munition. The B-52 is out of the equation for obvious reasons. That leaves the B-2. This is causing debate among military analysts as there is a wildly-held belief that the newer Russian S/A air-defence systems, of which Iran has many, could actually down a B-2. Plus, one bomb would not be enough. You would need to drop a number of them into the same crater. These bombs were designed for 60 metres of concrete, not the rock of a mountain.

Any B-2 getting involved would have to come from Whitman airbase in the US, as six of the ones which were at Diego Garcia were sent back over a week ago.

If we see them reappearing at D.G., then we will know what decision Trump has made.

Personally, I believe it was a grave mistake to attack Iran. Despite the propaganda you see on US, UK and Israeli media, Iran is far, far more capable than many have been led to believe. Sure, their airforce isn't the greatest, but this has meant that they have applied their innovations elsewhere.

I don't feel strongly about it, hence why I don't show up to the regular season rally's

The very first rally happened a few days after Israel started bombing Gaza, long before they starved the 2m people and killed 65k so I can only presume somebody is already organising it

In fairness if they're starving two million people and only managed to kill 65,000 there must be food getting in somewhere