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Donald Trump the Megathread part II - mod warnings in OP, Updated 06/06/25

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  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 42,308 CMod ✭✭✭✭ancapailldorcha


    Carlson's been spouting white supremacist talking points for several years. He's done more than most to put the US and the world in this state. Asking a few questions does not suddenly make him a journalist.

    The foreigner residing among you must be treated as your native-born. Love them as yourself, for you were foreigners in Egypt. I am the LORD your God.

    Leviticus 19:34



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 23,123 ✭✭✭✭Tell me how


    This interview shows that actually he IS a journalist.

    Just one with very few morals (which we knew anyway). He shouldn't be praised for pushing back on Cruz, he should be challenged for not having done this for so long.

    Mehdi Hassan is one of the only journalists who asked questions like this on mainstream outlets, but they quickly learned to stay away from him and ultimately when he shone a light on Israeli hypocrisy, the network shafted him.

    Society needs the type of interview Carlson gave Cruz, in full view, not just as an outsider somewhat on the fringes.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,886 ✭✭✭✭fullstop


    I can’t stand Carlson, but he made a holy show of lyin Ted there, that was a very entertaining watch.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,054 ✭✭✭✭aloyisious


    What should be worth noting is whether Tulsi Gabbard will be one of Trump's team at the Iran Meeting he's convening in the "war room" at the White House overnight to give him good guidance on whether to, or not to, involve the US in the Iran/Israel war by using US military personnel to deliver lethal US war materiel directly onto the heads of the Iranian population without using any other country's military or proxies to do so, or whether he throws her under the bus by denying her involvement in the meeting.

    This is a distinct moment in time for Trump when he won't be able to point at some previous US presidents and blame them for what happens next. Given the geographical location of the war, I'd hope some-one would steer him to the '67 war [May 28th period] and how Johnson handled the situation on how to avoid the US getting dragged directly in on the ground to protect Israel. He'll either end up keeping his non-martial "America First" reputation intact or be seen as a President with bloody hands involved in a war which could end up FUBAR.

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,924 ✭✭✭.Donegal.


    US strikes in Yemen took unprecedented toll on civilians

    The research group Airwars, which monitors civilian harm caused by strikes in numerous conflict zones around the world, has released a report finding that US attacks in Yemen over the last 52 days killed nearly as many civilians as all US strikes in that country during the last 23 years.

    The US previously said that the multiweek campaign of strikes aimed at the Houthis for their attacks on Israel and Red Sea shipping in solidarity with Gaza were based on “detailed” intelligence and an emphasis on “minimizing risk to civilians”.

    Instead, the report found an unprecedented toll.

    “In the period between the first recorded US strike in Yemen to the beginning of Trump’s campaign in March, Airwars tracked at least 258 civilians allegedly killed by US actions,” the report states. “In less than two months of Operation Rough Rider, Airwars documented at least 224 civilians in Yemen killed by US airstrikes – nearly doubling the civilian casualty toll in Yemen by US actions since 2002.”

    Human rights groups have called for the investigation of two especially deadly incidents, the US bombing of Ras Isa Port and Saada’s Remand Detention Prison, which allegedly killed a combined 152 civilians and injured nearly 200 more



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,206 ✭✭✭✭AbusesToilets


    When the worst person you know makes a good point



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 785 ✭✭✭RickBlaine


    Both Cruz and Tucker are odious despicable people. But unlike Tucker, Cruz is a public representative who has constantly let down the people who elected him. Although I hate to see Tucker win at anything, seeing Cruz squirm and humiliated made up for it.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,961 ✭✭✭✭Tony EH


    At this point, I genuinely think Dwayne Camacho would be a better President…by some distance.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,961 ✭✭✭✭Tony EH


    Firstly Im not a Maga follower.

    Seriously, just don't…really, just don't.

    You may have not read the nonsense you've posted on this thread (and others) over the past few years, but don't make the mistake of thinking that others haven't.

    You have continually and consistently come on here to post MAGA talking points and when confronted you run away, only to come back some time later to post more MAGA talking points.



  • Moderators, Politics Moderators Posts: 43,258 Mod ✭✭✭✭Seth Brundle


    Dwayne Camacho may have been thick but he did care about his people. Trump doesn't even care about his own family FFS



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,252 ✭✭✭✭J Mysterio


    Camacho also made better TV shows then Trump



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 23,316 ✭✭✭✭extra gravy


    "Foreign students will be required to unlock their social media profiles to allow US diplomats to review their online activity before receiving educational and exchange visas, the state department has announced. Those who fail to do so will be suspected of hiding that activity from US officials.

    The new guidance, unveiled by the state department on Wednesday, directs US diplomats to conduct an online presence review to look for “any indications of hostility toward the citizens, culture, government, institutions, or founding principles of the United States”.

    Sounds very much like the Thought Police. Where's the Orwell fan gone again?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,233 ✭✭✭✭kneemos


    I mean it's not even workable. Just delete any social media apps.

    Very strange.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,634 ✭✭✭Oscar_Madison
    #MEGA MAKE EUROPE GREAT AGAIN


    Sounds like a burner phone won’t pass muster -it gives them licence to essentially exclude anyone for whatever reason - you don’t need to have committed hate speech - a mediocre review of a McDonalds restaurant is all that it will take



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,271 ✭✭✭✭pjohnson


    Naturally I mean we know how much Trumpy loves his McDonalds!



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 23,123 ✭✭✭✭Tell me how


    That in itself will be seen as a Red Flag.

    They know that in todays world, the vast majority of young adults have a social media presence, if you rock up with a clean phone, they are well capable of viewing that suspiciously.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,886 ✭✭✭✭fullstop


    can we get Vance over to Europe again to give us another speech about how we’re shutting down free speech here?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,233 ✭✭✭✭kneemos


    Maybe,but what are they going to bar you for? Not having social media installed?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 29,883 ✭✭✭✭looksee


    How can someone be 'not a bad' journalist and a liar at the same time? A journalist is someone who researches and reports facts. If they are dealing in non-facts then they are a fiction writer or story-teller. A good journalist is one you can trust to present facts, even though they may slant them with opinion.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,883 ✭✭✭✭ArmaniJeanss


    You are looking at it the wrong way - your thinking is that they will have to find and give a reason to bar you. i.e., default position is allowed in unless they find evidence not to let you in.

    It's plausible that the opposite will apply - with a default of rejected unless you and your social media history are acceptable. In which case the absence of social media could lead to a rejection and presumably you have no right to be given the actual reason.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,872 ✭✭✭✭For Forks Sake


    They'll make you install Truth Social and post at least 10 conspiracy theories before you'll be let into the country



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,730 ✭✭✭✭Igotadose


    If you can't stand Cruz or Carlson, Daily Show's Klepper did an amusing job highlighting some of the more grotesque parts of the discussion:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RwlTxj32w5E



  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 42,308 CMod ✭✭✭✭ancapailldorcha


    It doesn't. It just makes MAGA look reasonable by shining a light on their one sensible belief - no to involvement in foreign wars.

    He is not a journalist, he is a corporate hack who masquerades as a journalist and legitimates white supremacy.

    The foreigner residing among you must be treated as your native-born. Love them as yourself, for you were foreigners in Egypt. I am the LORD your God.

    Leviticus 19:34



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 23,123 ✭✭✭✭Tell me how


    They don't have to give a reason, they might just view as being suspicious and deny the visa application.

    Even if you have them installed but all activity is in the last 3 months, it might be enough for them to be difficult.

    Don't get me wrong, none of this should be the case. It's obviously intrusive and violates their much vaunted free speech they talk about so much but of course they will say that that is only for citizens like that justifies this.

    We're already through the looking glass with this, this is Orwellian and I'd say we can not only consider this to be the norm, but in the near future to have the social media assessment carried out by AI meaning it will be extensive.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,634 ✭✭✭Oscar_Madison
    #MEGA MAKE EUROPE GREAT AGAIN


    They have total power at the border- their reasons in 2025 don’t have to make sense - “UnAmerican” for example could mean anything - but I agree with the other poster- no social media presence as a young person would be a total red flag - all they have to say is they are suspicious of you in hiding your true identity - you’ve no recourse - you’re barred- that’s it - the reasonable rule book is long gone and burned



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,634 ✭✭✭Oscar_Madison
    #MEGA MAKE EUROPE GREAT AGAIN


    “but in the near future to have the social media assessment carried out by AI meaning it will be extensive.”

    It’s very possible now and will only get more detailed as time goes on - they may well have bespoke apps that summarise your key posts into themes- very quickly they will determine the cut of your jib- just think of all the posts we make on this site - it would be very easy for an AI app to develop key conclusions of the poster - seconds is all it would take



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,641 ✭✭✭rogber


    Something tells me Trump is having the time of his life right now and absolutely loving the fact that in this war between Israel and Iran he is the one who actually holds all the cards and every news outlet is just panting for his latest statement.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,847 ✭✭✭Nermal


    I used to hear 'freedom of speech is not freedom from consequences' a lot round here. Not so much now.



  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 42,308 CMod ✭✭✭✭ancapailldorcha


    He has no cards. He's let smarter people put him in a terrible position and he's too stupid to realise it.

    The foreigner residing among you must be treated as your native-born. Love them as yourself, for you were foreigners in Egypt. I am the LORD your God.

    Leviticus 19:34



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,028 ✭✭✭✭VinLieger


    That's because anyone who specifically shouts about freedom of speech these days actually just means freedom from consequences, i truly believe many don't actually know the difference.



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