Israel Launches strike against Irans Nuclear Programme

Real feel of 'comical Ali' about this.

If anyone remembers him from the 2003 Iraq invasion, claiming they'd wiped out American forces and their were no Americans in Baghdad, while tanks literally rolling behind him.

Iranian media keeps claiming about a massive, huge counter attack and surprises.....but nothing happens. Seems a bit of that at play.

taking a leaf from trump book:

Iran’s senior army commander has called for residents of Haifa and Tel Aviv to evacuate immediately, Reuters reports, citing the semi-official Iranian news agency Mehr.

Iran has previously struck the two Israeli cities over the course of the five days of fighting that began Friday.

Who says that? The mehr news agency is claiming 4 F35 aircraft shot down and that Pakistan indicated it will nuke Tel Aviv if Israel uses a nuclear weapon. Hard to believe.

more foreshadowing of whats to come if iran dont stop:

"Trump has been clear on Iran, US State Department says

Donald Trump has said that Iran can't have a nuclear weapon no fewer than a dozen times since taking office again in January, US State Department spokeswoman Tammy Bruce has just been telling a news briefing.

Going back further, she said Trump has said the same thing no fewer than 40 times as far back as 2011."

Just on this,

Irans latest strike was two ballistic missiles. Both intercepted.

Looks like the Shahs son wants in

It's all over social media as well, all this fantasy about how Israel is crumbling, Israel cannot stop Iranian missiles, it's begging the US for aid because it's on the verge of defeat, Iran has outsmarted Israel, and other endless drivel.

I don't know how much of it is genuinely held opinion, and how much of it is part of misinformation campaigns, but it's really something.

All Israel need/want the US to do is drop those bunker busters on Fordow. It's pretty much the only thing they cannot do themselves, at least conventionally anyway and it's the one thing stopping them from being to declare a genuine mission accomplished.

Iran still claiming that Israel has seen nothing yet. Interesting strategy, cause minimal damage to Israel, allow the IAF to dominate your skies from 2000km away and wreck your defense network, allow panic to consume your capital city and heart of your economy, after half your senior leadership has been killed……all part of an elaborate ruse.

Meeting over

Are you not sick of Iran's foreign policy? They poked and poked until the bear snapped at them and now they're showing themselves to have nothing.

Seems like a bit of a strategic error on Iran's part, then. Israel has a long history of attacking Iran's nuclear programs, so Iran must have known that Israel would try to destroy their current effort in some way. If the facility is under a mountain, pretty much the only ways are infiltration (high risk) or the bunker buster bombs. Israel doesn't possess those bombs directly, but is it a great leap of imagination to think they could strongarm their most prominent ally into using them? I don't think it is.

I think Iran are going to end up wishing they'd invested in some better jets and AA…

They (Israel) could have to do far more than quite surgically destroy the nuke programme with some selected US help in fairness, though it looks like they may actually be able to manage to pull it all off, if the numbers of missiles and drones Iran fires are rapidly tailing off. Getting the US to help directly I think will make it certain, safer and much faster.

They need to find and destroy all stockpiles/mobile launchers for the missiles and drones (seems to be well under way). If regime doesn't actually collapse after the nuclear programme and their stocks of long range strike weapons are wrecked and they can't fire missiles and drones for a while, the domestic manufacturing capability, scientific/industrial base and much of Iran's infrastructure that enabled it all will need to go poof as well.

I kind of doubt the IAF or even the USAF joining in can break the stranglehold of the Revolutionary Guard and the Basij over Iran from the air without maybe also reducing the country to rubble. I don't think Israel (under current govt.) cares really and their cynicism is bottomless.

A weak almost failed state similar to likes of Libya, Iraq, Syria etc. that will end up as just a source of chaos, terrorist attacks, and desperate refugees for Western Europe is probably is an outcome they would prefer here vs the mullahs actually falling quickly due to the bombing (and decent majority of the pop. hating the govt.), and something organised and more democratic rapidly appearing in their place + there being some continuity of the state.

We could get a lot of Iranian exiles over here in Europe if it all goes bad. I hope any types who toot their horn for Israel and the Donald here, and also appear on other threads blowing steam about "fugees" and unvetted males etc. will take in a couple each. Double up the beds and squeeeeze over like.🛌

We shall see or they loose all credibility