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Zero Situational Awareness

  • 14-06-2025 08:19PM
    #1
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 11,383 ✭✭✭✭


    Is it just me or has situational awareness completely vanished? Or am I just turning into a grumpy old man?

    People stopping dead at the bottom of escalators. Blocking shop entrances mid chat. Glued to their phones in the middle of the footpath. Sitting through green lights while horns go off around them. The supermarket philosophers, staring into fridges like they are decoding ancient runes, trolleys flung sideways blocking the aisle. People standing right in front of lift doors while others are trying to get out. At the airport baggage carousel I am waiting a few metres away like everyone else and someone strolls up and parks their trolley directly in front of me like I am not there.

    I do not know if it is a post Covid effect or what, but has peripheral vision been downgraded? Has basic spatial awareness just disappeared?

    Or

    Do are they 100% aware and just don't give a sheet?



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Comments

  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,960 ✭✭✭✭Jim_Hodge


    I noticed it more as I got old(er) but I've since realised there were always inconsiderate, self absorbed, people around. It's not deliberate most of the time, they just don't think. I take an almost perverted satisfaction in bumping in to them when they stop short in doorways or walk my direction with faces stuck in phones. I'll politely point out there's a queue when they cut in and more often than not it seems they didn't even notice. They're often not aware but don't give a #$£@ either.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 41,040 ✭✭✭✭Hotblack Desiato


    Just barge into them and then say "sorry" 😉 and say to yourself "sorry you were ever born, you ignorant cúnt" 👍️

    Careful you don't say the quiet bit out loud though

    I'm partial to your abracadabra
    I'm raptured by the joy of it all



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 41,040 ✭✭✭✭Hotblack Desiato


    An increasing thing which really grates in supermarkets is the "sealing off the area" thing.

    I'm going to spend fúcking ages looking at a product I'm not going to buy, but in the meantime I've strategically positioned my trolley to prevent you getting at the thing you actually want to buy.

    Ignorant as all hell. I just yank their trolley out of the way, life is too short to be engaging with that sort of moron.

    I'm partial to your abracadabra
    I'm raptured by the joy of it all



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 38,049 ✭✭✭✭odyssey06


    People cutting across the bottom of a descending escalator. There is nowhere for the people coming off the escalator to go except into them.

    People who want to get on a train or tram but stand right in the way of the people getting off and seem surprised at the concept that someone might be getting off.

    "To follow knowledge like a sinking star..." (Tennyson's Ulysses)



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 24,317 ✭✭✭✭dxhound2005


    They won't be paying attention, so it is simple to slip a few small items from the supermarket shelves into their trolleys. That will engage their brains when they get to the checkout.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 17,982 ✭✭✭✭Goldengirl


    Somebody very nice once told me that instead of making yourself small to get by these rows of people who block your path with trolleys and dogs on leads you just ' gird your loins', put your head down , cross your arms and barge right through saying, " oh can you mind where you are going with your dog / your child /your friend , I nearly fell over you ! "

    I would be too afraid I'd do myself an injury ;)



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,075 ✭✭✭✭lawred2


    People trying to get on trains while people still getting off.. look at you like you have two heads when you request that they wait until everyone getting off gets off.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 11,383 ✭✭✭✭John_Rambo


    Of course, this is just an observation, I’m not furious, just quietly baffled sometimes. I drop the younger kids to school, and some parents will stop at the doorway as their personal farewell zone. Coats off, hats off, hugs, pep talks, all very wholesome, I do it myself.. in an area that doesn't block anyone. Meanwhile, eight of us are standing in the rain outside.

    What gets me is the total lack of awareness. I always know if someone’s behind me, not because I saw them, but because I felt them. A shuffle, a change in light, shadows, reflections, the shift in acoustics, the bounce of my own voice coming back off a body that wasn’t there a second ago. There’s a kind of social sonar we all should have.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,570 ✭✭✭Kalimah


    The supermarket is the one that baffles me too. Trolleys ”parked” in the middle of an aisle, no idea how to keep out of people’s way, examining produce like you’d never seen it before in your life etc etc. Best one I’ve seen is an aul wan putting her basket on the conveyer belt and and unloading her groceries out of it. Then leaves the basket there on the belt for the customer behind her to remove. I felt like flinging it at her. Always women of a certain age. Entitled beyond belief.
    I’m a woman of that certain age too by the way!



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 461 ✭✭Charlo30


    What particularly annoys me is when a group of 4/5 people gather around the self service tils. Yet only one of them is buying something.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,348 ✭✭✭pavb2


    Using mobile phones also accounts for the increase people just suddenly stopping on the pavement etc for no reason or walking slowly head down in zombie mode



  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Arts Moderators, Sports Moderators, Paid Member Posts: 55,425 CMod ✭✭✭✭magicbastarder


    it's always been there, but i do think phones have made it more pronounced.

    speaking of people being self-absorbed; soon after lockdown restrictions started to ease, when people were out walking in droves, to get out of the house, a friend of mine decided she was not going to be the one to step out of the way when people were walking towards her on a path; as a test, she decided to simply stop and wait. and she said the number of times people just ended up walking straight into her was amazing. these were not all people staring at a phone, FWIW; - they were just used to walking around and expecting others to make way - and she said the curious thing was that it was overwhelmingly men who did this.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,356 ✭✭✭Mister Vain


    Cyclists not using cycle lanes. Bastids.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 44,370 ✭✭✭✭ancapailldorcha


    A lot of them here in the UK use the pavement. I used to get angry whenever I saw a video of some bike thief with bolt cutters stealing them. Now I find it deeply cathartic.

    In general, I think it's phones and the inability of a lot of people to just not be checking their phone every few minutes. It's pathetic to be honest. Our kitchen at work is tiny. I asked some lad there to let me through twice. He ignored me so I shoved him.

    It's everywhere. I went to see a film in the middle of last week. Almost everyone on the tube was buried in their phone. I didn't even bring mine as I didn't see the point. I've seen people just stop in the middle of narrow staircases to take their stupid device out and start swiping. I've nearly been hit in my home town by motorists on their phone while driving.

    The foreigner residing among you must be treated as your native-born. Love them as yourself, for you were foreigners in Egypt. I am the LORD your God.

    Leviticus 19:34



  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Arts Moderators, Sports Moderators, Paid Member Posts: 55,425 CMod ✭✭✭✭magicbastarder


    to be fair, having a portable device which fits in your pocket, which allows you access to most of the knowledge you'll ever want access to, is amazing.

    says he, who spends most of his time when using the phone, playing hexa sort and angry birds.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,463 ✭✭✭kowloonkev


    I notice a difference between men and women in this regard. Women are far more caught up in their own lives and taking care of their families to care about annoying strangers. Men, tend to be more concerned about what strangers think. This may be simply some kind of evolutionary trait reimagined for modern times.

    Often I'd see a couple standing on one step, blocking the whole escalator and invariably it's the man who will either step out of the way of people trying to walk or he will guide the woman out of the way. Same goes for walking on the street or blocking doorways.

    Families taking up the whole width of the footpath is very annoying. Again, often it'll be a couple of women nattering away and some children on the side - all totally oblivious to people coming towards them. Mothers with kids just think they're more important than anyone in my experience.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,016 ✭✭✭RickBlaine


    It says in the rules of the road that cyclists can move to the center of the lane to get a better view of the road.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,988 ✭✭✭✭volchitsa


    she said the curious thing was that it was overwhelmingly men who did this

    Sadly, not that curious at all: a real eye opener for me was hearing a TED talk some years ago by a trans woman called Paula Stone Williams about the differences she found navigating the world "as a woman" compared to as a man. Things like finding that men in her train or plane seat would always assume that she'd misread her seat number and not them, whereas that had been a rarity before she transitioned. I suddenly discovered that so many things that irritated me in that sort of random social interactions had been happening to me because I was a woman.

    (It's long but quite funny - and as I say, an eye opener.)

    Separately, people on phones, of both sexes, are a different thing but a real menace. I suspect that young women are more often offenders in that regard, but it can be both. I've started just not moving out of their way.

    "If a woman cannot stand in a public space and say, without fear of consequences, that men cannot be women, then women have no rights at all." Helen Joyce



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,135 ✭✭✭✭Heroditas


    As others have said, there's always been an element of it. For example the escalator blocking, door blocking, trolleys parked sideways in the aisle or an ail wan wheeling it sideways etc.

    What makes it more visible now is the zombies on their phones



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,016 ✭✭✭RickBlaine


    It's even worse when someone is blocking a path or an aisle, they see you coming towards them, and make the massive effort of moving about 2mm thinking that will be enough.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 23,846 ✭✭✭✭Akrasia


    I refuse to park on footpaths. This has caused several fights with my wife who thinks its perfectly fine

    Ban billionaires



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 24,317 ✭✭✭✭dxhound2005




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 51 ✭✭Barcley


    When you're walking the dog and someone approaches you on the same side as the dog rather than on your dog-free side. Means having to keep the dog on an even shorter leash. Not sure it's a new thing though.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,988 ✭✭✭✭volchitsa


    I don't get how anyone can think it's ok. Has she never had to manoeuvre a pram or a buggy on a path made impassible by selfish car drivers? Not to mention the problems that causes for the visually impaired? I'd make that a serious traffic offence if I could.

    "If a woman cannot stand in a public space and say, without fear of consequences, that men cannot be women, then women have no rights at all." Helen Joyce



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,260 ✭✭✭jackboy


    Driving country roads, coming across a stopped car with the driver talking out the window to someone and they are completely blocking the road and just continue their conversation while ignoring you.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 41,040 ✭✭✭✭Hotblack Desiato


    I'm partial to your abracadabra
    I'm raptured by the joy of it all



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 8,378 ✭✭✭facehugger99


    I’m always amazed in Supermarkets at the people who stare gormlessly into space as their shopping is checked through and then seem mildly surprised at having to pack and pay for it.

    It’s like it’s their first time in a supermarket.

    Similar thing with people spending 5 minutes at an ATM, you can almost see their lips moving as they read every screen and weigh up each consequential button press.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,100 ✭✭✭Pauliedragon


    If everyone walked on the left on a footpath the phone thing wouldn't be so much of a problem. Looking down at the phone whilst walking in the middle of the footpath is a double crime. Punishable by my shoulder hitting your head.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 41,040 ✭✭✭✭Hotblack Desiato


    Wánkers who block escalators should be flung into the deepest pit of hell

    It's really, really NOT hard to stand to one side and let people past you, but no your inane chat with your friend, or gormless phone-gazing is more important

    Especially annoying in the Stephen's Green centre when on lunch break with a limited time to get to the shop, buy what's needed and get back

    I'm partial to your abracadabra
    I'm raptured by the joy of it all



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,641 ✭✭✭Bogey Lowenstein
    That must be Nigel with the brie...


    More than once I have been on narrow roads and met a vehicle stopped in the road and somebody leaning in the window blabbing with the driver and his bum stuck out blocking the road so you can't get by. When he feels ready he will slowly straighten up and let you get by.



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