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Israel Launches strike against Irans Nuclear Programme

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,533 ✭✭✭combat14


    France and US have already told Iran to return to the negotiating table (in Trumps case he advised them to do it quickly while there was something left)



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,112 ✭✭✭✭Strazdas


    Tel Aviv is being bombed again as we speak, incoming missiles : currently 2.45am there.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 36,986 ✭✭✭✭o1s1n
    Master of the Universe


    Agenda free tv great for the live coverage again. Was a big barrage a few moments ago.

    https://www.youtube.com/live/MkNTiIk5w4o?feature=shared



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,629 ✭✭✭Wolf359f


    Trump won't be too happy with the media switching to live images from the skies in Israel over his birthday parade.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,112 ✭✭✭✭Strazdas


    That's a very weird event by the way - Trump looks really sour and as if he is not enjoying it.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,629 ✭✭✭Wolf359f


    Yeah I was flicking through and it's kinda cringy.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 23,548 ✭✭✭✭Akrasia


    Chomsky(2017) on the Republican party

    "Has there ever been an organisation in human history that is dedicated, with such commitment, to the destruction of organised human life on Earth?"



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 36,986 ✭✭✭✭o1s1n
    Master of the Universe


    Incoming rocket live now.

    Edit - looks like it was just the one and was intercepted.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,112 ✭✭✭✭Strazdas


    Sky News reporter mentions that the size of the Iranian retaliation may be coming as a surprise to the Israelis. They might have felt that Thursday would be a knockout blow to Iran's military and they didn't anticipate that the Iranians would be able to hit back with such sustained missile attacks.

    Times of Israel reports that sirens are going off in every city in the country.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 36,986 ✭✭✭✭o1s1n
    Master of the Universe


    Indeed, it's really something else seeing so many missiles actually impacting.

    Quite a difference between Iran's available arsenal and the HAMAS rockets Iron Dome takes down.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,629 ✭✭✭Wolf359f


    Has there been an concrete figures with how many missiles Iran has fired? I know last night they were talking and preparing for a third wave and some media said it didn't materalise. Others the next day said there was a third wave.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,112 ✭✭✭✭Strazdas


    One wonders if this will temper Israeli public opinion. Ori Goldberg says Israelis were high fiving each other and exuberant when they heard the news of the attack on Iran on Thursday - not sure they realised for a moment they would have to spend the next few nights in bomb shelters with explosions going off above them. I've read too that Iran has a huge number of missiles at its disposal.



  • Site Banned Posts: 916 ✭✭✭Denny61


    Iran has 3000 missiles ..



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,789 ✭✭✭Ardillaun


    When Netanyahu speaks to Iranians does he really expect them or us to believe that an attack like this is an effective way to advance the cause of secular social democracy in their country? Like the US, Iran has a core of ethno-nationalists, often poorly educated, who support the regime and whose ranks will swell during this war.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,789 ✭✭✭Ardillaun


    But at least let us have an honest and open discussion of both sides of this issue, including Israel’s 55 year old nuclear stockpile which was instituted despite the clear opposition of both JFK and LBJ. I fear that no American in a responsible government position will be willing to do so. Israel’s nukes are now haram for them to mention because their government broke US law in ignoring the fact while aiding that country.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,869 ✭✭✭✭nacho libre


    I am sure you have a reason to ignore US intelligence . As you do to declare Russia is committing genocide while denying Israel is doing the same.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,869 ✭✭✭✭nacho libre


    I would give more credence to what US intelligence says. Also this is the same IAEA who got it badly wrong with regard to Iraq's WMD



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,092 ✭✭✭.Donegal.


    Israel asking for America to join the war. Quelle surprise.

    Israel has asked the Trump administration over the past 48 hours to join the war with Iran in order to eliminate its nuclear program, according to two Israeli officials. 

    The big picture: Israel lacks the bunker buster bombs and large bomber aircraft needed to destroy Iran's Fordow uranium enrichment site, which is built into a mountain and deep underground. The U.S. has both within flying distance of Iran.

    An Israeli official claimed to Axios that the U.S. might join the operation, and that President Trumpeven suggested he'd do so if necessary in a recent conversation with Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu.

    https://www.axios.com/2025/06/14/israel-iran-war-us-nuclear-program-trump



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 850 ✭✭✭batman75


    Trump would be mad to get America involved. Netanyahu may have started the end of Israel as we know it. Hard to believe what we are seeing. Yes Israel caught Iran off guard but the Iranians are a proud and resilient people.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,644 ✭✭✭brickster69


    We are only seeing the attacks from the media. We can't see the attacks on the military bases and industrial centres throughout the country because the military put a new censorship law in the other day which forbids it.

    Looks like many people underestimated Iran's capability

    Post edited by brickster69 on

    "if you get on the wrong train, get off at the nearest station, the longer it takes you to get off, the more expensive the return trip will be."



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,533 ✭✭✭combat14


    Israel warns Iranian civilians near weapon facilities to evacuate

    "Israel's military spokesman has issued an evacuation warning to all Iranian residents near weapon facilities.

    Avichay Adraee posted an "urgent warning to all Iranian citizens" on social media.

    "All individuals currently or in the near future present in or around military weapons production facilities and their support institutions are to leave these areas immediately and not return until further notice," he wrote."

    perhaps US will give Israel the bunker busting bombs they need to take out Irans deeply buried nuclear weapons sites



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 379 ✭✭Seattle


    You would never see the oppressive and antisemitic Iranian regime give such warnings to Israeli citizens.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,188 ✭✭✭✭volchitsa


    This Gaza?

    Gaza before Oct 2023 had a shocking level of disparity between the wealthy - often Hamas-connected - elite and the very very poor. Northern Ireland, even at its worst (and I was born before the Troubles started so have some knowledge of that) was never comparable.

    On the other hand, it's not unusual in the Arab world.

    The Israelis weren't responsible for the grinding poverty associated with adminstrative corruption in Tunisia that led a young market seller to set himself on fire, leading to the Arab Spring.

    If Israel disappeared tomorrow, the vast majority of Palestinians would not be one whit better off, but the 2 million Arab Israelis would undoubtedly be a lot worse off. Meanwhile a few at the very top of Palestinian society would get even wealthier.

    "If a woman cannot stand in a public space and say, without fear of consequences, that men cannot be women, then women have no rights at all." Helen Joyce



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 23,548 ✭✭✭✭Akrasia


    Chomsky(2017) on the Republican party

    "Has there ever been an organisation in human history that is dedicated, with such commitment, to the destruction of organised human life on Earth?"



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 245 ✭✭Noworries!




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 23,548 ✭✭✭✭Akrasia


    So you don't see the hypocrisy of Israel bombing hospitals while claiming that Hamas are using the hospital as human shields, while they put their own military headquarters next to schools and apartment buildings.

    Chomsky(2017) on the Republican party

    "Has there ever been an organisation in human history that is dedicated, with such commitment, to the destruction of organised human life on Earth?"



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,936 ✭✭✭Homelander


    They are completely different things.

    You do understand that every military on the planet has military buildings in urban areas, Ireland included.

    They are military buildings. Not military posts in civilian buildings.

    Acting like they're the one and same is astoundingly ignorant.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 379 ✭✭Seattle


    The claim of hypocrisy doesn’t hold up under scrutiny because it draws a false equivalence between Hamas’s intentional use of civilians as human shields and the IDF’s operating in a densely populated country with unavoidable proximity to civilian infrastructure.

    Hamas deliberately embeds military assets inside hospitals, schools, and residential buildings as a core strategy. Israel doesn't.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 23,548 ✭✭✭✭Akrasia


    Yeah yeah.

    When Israel use actual human shields thats ok too, right?

    https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Human_shields_in_the_Israeli%E2%80%93Palestinian_conflict

    Chomsky(2017) on the Republican party

    "Has there ever been an organisation in human history that is dedicated, with such commitment, to the destruction of organised human life on Earth?"



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 839 ✭✭✭poop emoji


    yes our mighty and well funded armed forces are preparing peace keeping plans

    Our military just needs permission from the Chinese, Russians and Trumpistanis on the UN security council and French and Germans in EU level to give 👍 up due to triple lock

    Our president is crafting a strongly worded letter which will shock and awe all sides




    ^ in case not clear all that above is sarcasm



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