Donald Trump the Megathread part II - mod warnings in OP, Updated 06/06/25

Trump said he could not send in national guard troops without any state governor's permission, yet this is what he has done in California.

If you support the end of US democracy I can see why you'd support Trump.

Thanks for validating my point.

I would think you know pretty well that I don't support Trump. But trying to polarise things (like Trump ironically does) by implying that anyone you disagree with is a Trump supporter is childish to be honest.

If the cops had been patroling the area instead and had detained someone for crossing police tapes, then there would be no story in this particular case.

You think this random guy created protests such that Trump would send in the NG and the Marines and then decide that suddenly federal buildings needed protection and then put himself in garms way all to generate negative Trump headlines?

Why the building taped off? What specific threats had it come under?

What specifically did this guy do that warranted his arrest and dentetion? Was he really a threat to the building or the soldiers?

There is nothing anti Trump about it. He has sent the Marines, a killing machine designed to kill US enemies and sent them into a US city under the flimsiest of reasons and now those troops are detaining civilians. A job the police are meant to do, and we'll capable of doing.

But yeah, just another lined crossed as peoples right are errorded before their eyes but they want to give Trump every chance that he won't turn out to be the wannabe dictator that he is so obviously working towards.

Not just a post of laughable nonsense, one that has your own shirt-tails showing for all to see.

You groundlessly accuse others of bias for not considering the bare facts/evidence or the full story. Instead seeing only the perspective that fits their beliefs, and then you follow up with "given the the background of the ex-soldier detained and the likelihood he would be anti-Trump and his immigration policies, it would not surprise me in the slighhtest if he orchestrated the incident to generate negative publicity for Trump".

Had you bothered to do what you accuse others of not doing, then you would know that is a complete load of steaming manure. The gentleman in question when interviewed made no reference to Trump or his immigration policies and said he was just taking a short-cut to the veteran affairs office in the building.

Kent State University. I remember the pictures well. Nowadays, however, the Guard are much better armed than they were then. I doubt they're any better trained.

The U.S. military can detain trespassers on military installations under very specific U.S. codes, where they can either escort the person off the base or hand them over to the civil authorities. A post office, a courthouse or numerous other federal buildings are not military installations and them doing so in such cases is a violation of the Posse Comitatus Act. Neither is Homeland Security a civil authority to hand someone over too which according to another poster here is what they did with that civilian in LA

Both Trump and the military have been playing fast and very loose with those U.S. codes as regards military instalations. In March the military announced that troops on the Mexico - New Mexico border would have "enhanced authorities" because they are on land now designated part of Fort Hauchuca Arizona - a military installation located more than a 100 miles away.

Would you be happy to see them do the same by using some of that tape they used in that buildings`s garden to surround LA and designate the city as part of a some military base.

Their spouses were shot as well.

The lady politician, Melissa Hortman, and her husband have both died. The fact that it was someone impersonating a police officer (including having a car apparently) at a time when ICE officials refuse to identify themselves cannot be ignored.

Yesterday, a GOP official accused Tim Walz and the Democratic Party as being the party of violence at a committee hearing, this suggests differently. America is in a very dark place. Marines detaining citizens, police being impersonated to assassinate politicians and the President holding a military parade where soldiers with different political ideals to him were told to exclude themselves.

These times ae emblematic of Trumps Presidency.

A military officer guarding a federal building is not operating or interfering with civilian law and order. They are not operating as civilian law officers, it is not a breach of the Posse Comitatus Act.

The rules or regulations they operate under may be different on military bases, but afaik, the US constitution still applies on military bases on US soil. Outside a federal building or on a military base, in both situations they are not acting as civilian law enforcement.

I'm not happy with the situation at all and I certainly don't agree with the national guard and Marines being called up without the governor requesting it. I'm simply pointing out that they are well within the law and constitution to detain civilians who trespass onto federal property when it's closed off.

Even more so when actual officials are dragging people off the street and driving them away.

A quote from Walz only yesterday: "The road to authoritarianism is littered with people telling you you're overreacting."

Ah come on, do you really believe that someone with his background (ex-army, with citizenship gained through service - something Trump would presumably not be a fan of) happened to just take a 'short-cut' in the current climate by crossing through tapes and going off-path, and then happens to not hear several marines shouting at him to stop?! And on top of all that, you believe that if it was a stunt of sorts, albeit with good motivation, that the guy in question is going to admit this in an interview or mouth off about Trump or his immigration policies?!!

It's just a coincidence that the man is having a military parade outside of his official home, while unrest is appearing outside of many other peoples homes. While the same Military are now threatening to arrest people in those homes. While other international matters will take attention away from domestic matters.

How long before a state of national emergency is declared? Will anyone care by that point?

Make everything seem normal and nothing will ever seem abnormal again