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Donald Trump the Megathread part II - Mod Warning added to OP 10/1/26

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,561 ✭✭✭✭Frank Bullitt


    I had no idea it was the job of the marines to detain people in the country they are supposed to protect. Could have sworn it was the police’s job to do that…



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,727 ✭✭✭Cody montana


    is today his birthday parade?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 30,978 ✭✭✭✭looksee


    6pm today, so not much info about it till tomorrow.

    I just watched a video on BBC, a vox pop, of people offering views on whether it was worth the expense and whether it should be held at all, and the overall view was, yes, go for it. Again it was a tightly edited vox pop, which proves less than nothing, but you couldn't help feeling, you are irredeemably thick, you get what you deserve.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 14,218 ✭✭✭✭machiavellianme


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    Only a bigliest beautiful 79 years young

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,701 ✭✭✭Lewis_Benson


    Hopefully he chokes on his happy meal toy.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 22,169 ✭✭✭✭everlast75


    Do you think this parade is about the military, or about Trump?

    Elect a clown... Expect a circus



  • Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Technology & Internet Moderators Posts: 97,265 Mod ✭✭✭✭Capt'n Midnight


    The hamburger ration will be increased from a third of a pound to a quarter of a pound.

    That happened. A lot of Americans are bad at basic maths and hence evaluating things like number based political promises.

    "More than half the people in the focus groups questioned the price of the third-pounder. They wanted to know why they should have to pay the same price for a third of a pound as they did for a quarter pound at McDonald's. They said A&W was overcharging them. You're ripping them off."



  • Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Technology & Internet Moderators Posts: 97,265 Mod ✭✭✭✭Capt'n Midnight


    The EU is very good at giving the other party a "win" they can show off at home while cutting a deal that's slightly in the EU's favour.

    The devil is in the detail, some thing Trump doesn't do.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 17,331 ✭✭✭✭MisterAnarchy


    Krassenstein is a grifter with an agenda, he isnt a reliable or objective source.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,275 ✭✭✭✭Leroy42


    Trump said yesterday that the Israel attack on Iran was due to Iran not signing a deal within 60 days.

    Trump is admitting that he launched a preemptive war. What happened to all those that claimed Trump never started a war?



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 4,096 ✭✭✭Field east


    why is he ‘ up to his neck’ in supporting Israel with arms, finance, etc. why does he not let the schoolboys at it until they get too tired to fight any longer - like he has decided to to with Ukr?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 32,907 ✭✭✭✭breezy1985


    I think there is no event whee you won't make an excuse for the army.

    If this becomes the next Ohio 1970 you will be here trying to play it down.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,354 ✭✭✭eightieschewbaccy


    I'd actually tend to agree but equally I'd view Trump to be sending the US in an incredibly authoritarian direction. You seem to be fine with it though.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,347 ✭✭✭✭charlie14


    I watched the video shown in the Reuters report and frankly what it showed was an over the top gung-ho attitude from the Marines involved. He was approaching the building through a garden wearing shorts and a t-shirt. What did they think he was doing, gathering ingredients to put together some kind of lethal cocktail of potpourri to attack the building with ?

    That fair skinned people were ambling around the building itself without the Marines showing any concern while a dark skinned man was being made lie on the ground to be zip tied wasn`t a great look either. And why was he handed over to Homeland Security rather than being detained by the Marines until the police arrived and more-or-less told them all to cop themselves on. To check his immigration status perhaps ?

    I would have thought the U.S. military disgraced itself enough at Fort Bragg without the Marines joining in. According to Military.com soldiers were screened on their political views with those that supported Trumps used as background for his speech, (those that were fat and supported him apparently were sent to sit with those that didn`t support him), where the cheered and applauded his attacks on his political opponents and the media.

    I can understand the top brass not wishing to have those that may have looked a bit plump front and centre for the cameras, but I was of the impression that the U.S. military was supposed to be apolitical, but it appears I either got that wrong, or things have changed in that regards.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,825 ✭✭✭Wolf359f


    The Marines were deployed to protect federal buildings, a man approached a federal building as was detained by the Marines until local law enforcement came to take custody of the person. It's certainly not the Marines going around arresting civilians on the streets.

    I'd imagine the same situation would have happened if one were to try walk onto a military base. They would certainly be within their rights to detain you.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 22,169 ✭✭✭✭everlast75


    Any chance you could engage with my reply to your assertion Trump isn't a fascist?

    Elect a clown... Expect a circus



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,275 ✭✭✭✭Leroy42


    Arrested for approaching a federal building?

    So anyone approaching a post office is now liable for arrest?

    And you see nothing wrong with that?

    Not sure even they asked if he was just on a sightseeing tour. Wasn't that the excuse for Jan 6th.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,825 ✭✭✭Wolf359f


    The building was taped off, so it's more like trespassing. It a post office was closed off and guarded by Marines and Nation Guard, then yes, I would expect them to detain a trespasser.

    This wasn't some innocent bystander walking down the street and detained by Marines. They were well within the law to detain the person. It's a completely different situation if the Marines were detaining protesters, protesting on a public sidewalk etc...



  • Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 17,543 Mod ✭✭✭✭Manic Moran


    I think it has been politicized to such an extent that nobody cares what it’s really about, and what should be a simple celebration of the quarter-century of the Army’s existence has been sidelined, to the Army’s detriment.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 23,059 ✭✭✭✭Ash.J.Williams


    I think fast tracking working peoples citizenship might have worked better than mass deportations



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,079 ✭✭✭Escapees


    Exactly... But, as I'm finding here, some posters are so anti-Trump and biased that they don't consider the bare facts/evidence or the full story - instead they see only the perspective that fits their beliefs. It's starting to seem like there's an anti-MAGA brigade emerging that are just as biased as the MAGA devotees in how they view events, just on the opposite side.

    And by the way, given the background of the ex-soldier detained and the likelihood he would be anti-Trump and his immigration policies, it would not surprise me in the slightest if he orchestrated the incident to generate negative publicity for Trump.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,354 ✭✭✭eightieschewbaccy


    I think that's an incredibly naive viewpoint if I'm honest. Trump has made it pretty clear that he enjoys such displays, in particular the totalitarian ones. I think there's honestly an ongoing effort to rationalize what he's doing.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,982 ✭✭✭yagan


    Trump said he could not send in national guard troops without any state governor's permission, yet this is what he has done in California.

    If you support the end of US democracy I can see why you'd support Trump.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,763 ✭✭✭storker


    In the Democratic People's Republic of Trumpistan, everything is about Trump.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,079 ✭✭✭Escapees


    Thanks for validating my point.

    I would think you know pretty well that I don't support Trump. But trying to polarise things (like Trump ironically does) by implying that anyone you disagree with is a Trump supporter is childish to be honest.

    If the cops had been patroling the area instead and had detained someone for crossing police tapes, then there would be no story in this particular case.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 30,978 ✭✭✭✭looksee


    If the cops had been patroling the area instead and had detained someone for crossing police tapes, then there would be no story in this particular case.

    Yes, you really are missing the point here, aren't you?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,275 ✭✭✭✭Leroy42


    You think this random guy created protests such that Trump would send in the NG and the Marines and then decide that suddenly federal buildings needed protection and then put himself in garms way all to generate negative Trump headlines?

    Why the building taped off? What specific threats had it come under?

    What specifically did this guy do that warranted his arrest and dentetion? Was he really a threat to the building or the soldiers?

    There is nothing anti Trump about it. He has sent the Marines, a killing machine designed to kill US enemies and sent them into a US city under the flimsiest of reasons and now those troops are detaining civilians. A job the police are meant to do, and we'll capable of doing.

    But yeah, just another lined crossed as peoples right are errorded before their eyes but they want to give Trump every chance that he won't turn out to be the wannabe dictator that he is so obviously working towards.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 22,169 ✭✭✭✭everlast75


    With respect, that's not what I asked.

    I asked you if it was about the military, or Trump.

    To put it another way, do you think it is a coincidence that he organized it and it's being held on his birthday, or is truly about a celebration of the military.

    Elect a clown... Expect a circus



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,347 ✭✭✭✭charlie14


    Not just a post of laughable nonsense, one that has your own shirt-tails showing for all to see.

    You groundlessly accuse others of bias for not considering the bare facts/evidence or the full story. Instead seeing only the perspective that fits their beliefs, and then you follow up with "given the the background of the ex-soldier detained and the likelihood he would be anti-Trump and his immigration policies, it would not surprise me in the slighhtest if he orchestrated the incident to generate negative publicity for Trump".

    Had you bothered to do what you accuse others of not doing, then you would know that is a complete load of steaming manure. The gentleman in question when interviewed made no reference to Trump or his immigration policies and said he was just taking a short-cut to the veteran affairs office in the building.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,585 ✭✭✭ilkhanid


    I presume you are referring to the Kent state shootings where four anti-war protestors were shot dead. it would not surprise me in the least, considering that Trump's goons have the potential to be even more thuggish than the National Guard at the time.



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