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Unsolved Irish Mysteries.

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,601 ✭✭✭✭dastardly00


    Gardaí have brought in the cadaver dog and excavation equipment



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 165 ✭✭LunaLoo


    You'd have to be fairly brave to bury a body with that many people coming and going assuming the 9 people mentioned in the notice were still living there at the time or at least coming and going regularly enough to notice a freshly dug grave in the garden at the time an a good friend /former flame of 2 residents disappeared



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,085 ✭✭✭cap.in.hand.


    Good question..,maybe building/ garden works were being done at the time there



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 58,884 ✭✭✭✭walshb


    Irish Times: “Some of Ms McCarrick’s friends in the United States had remained in close and frequent contact with her when she moved back to Ireland in January, 1993, after first studying here. They said she felt pressured and harassed by an Irishman in her social circle in Dublin and that she told them the man struck her when he had been drinking. They flagged those concerns with gardaí in the initial stages of the investigation when she vanished.”


    be brilliant if this could be solved..



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 167 ✭✭easy peasy


    I believe an issue with an awful lot of these cases, another being Raonaid Murray, is that suspects families have remained completely silent even when they know the truth. Gardai have been praying that the passing of time would make one of them break and do the right thing.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,161 ✭✭✭hamburgham


    Dogs are so amazing and the abuse so many of them get. Not sure I really want to know but how are those dogs trained? There must be a significant number of corpses used in the training.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,150 ✭✭✭MrMusician18


    I feel really sorry for the family that live there now. Nothing to do with them but their house and lives will be turned upside down and torn asunder by the gardai.

    My understanding too is that it's tough **** as well, no compensation.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 69 ✭✭Crakepottle?


    They just make good the actual damage as far as I know.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 636 ✭✭✭juno10353


    Man released

    Gardaí searching for human remains at house linked to Annie McCarrick murder probe https://jrnl.ie/6732296



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,466 ✭✭✭Gadgetman496


    A millionaire businessman who was arrested in connection with the disappearance and murder of Annie McCarrick in March 1993 has been released without charge.

    "Everybody is a genius. But if you judge a fish by its ability to climb a tree, it will live its whole life believing that it is stupid."



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,057 ✭✭✭mazdamiatamx5


    Yes indeed. In some cases it's even worse than remaining silent, two men were seen removing large case or carpet (I forget exact description) from Fiona Pender's house, one was is suspected of being perp's (since deceased) father!



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,745 ✭✭✭Xander10


    You've missed my point. I'm not saying the Gardai shouldn't have explored that sighting, I'm saying the Gardai focused too long on that possible sighting at the expense of excluding other options and the elephant in the room.k

    Like the Marie Farrell phone call re sighting of Bailey, "I'm 100% certain it was him" then "no it wasn't him" that was the closed avenue the Gardai used to solve Sophie's murder.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 342 ✭✭I told ya


    There was an interview on the radio this week with a chap from N Ireland who is involved in training the dogs. He stated that they have a license to use human blood, tissue and bones for training purposes.

    Presumably some gov. dept gives the license and also, some people must give their consent, prior to death, to allow this to happen. He didn't go into the details of how it works.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 559 ✭✭✭Woodcutting


    I'm sure the garda have long known the killers



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,902 ✭✭✭Patrick2010


    Fascinating, should have trained our beloved and much lamented springer spaniel but but he just believed he was a lap dog

    Interesting they have now believed Annie was killed near her home so the whole story of her killed up the mountains was a red herring?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,057 ✭✭✭mazdamiatamx5


    Indeed, my own father's middle name was Hilary, he was born in the 1930s. I thought it had died out as a male name by the 1960s/70s but seemingly not. And, yes, current UK government minister and indeed Secretary of State for Northern Ireland Hilary Benn, born in 1953, is a bloke.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 908 ✭✭✭DmanDmythDledge


    It makes sense given she didn't put away her groceries - that may indicate she left her apartment as soon as she got back with someone, or she arrived back with someone and was taken away or even there was someone waiting for her in the apartment when she got back.

    The reported sightings of her on the bus were from c.3.30pm onwards. If someone had planned to go for a walk in the Dublin mountains, surely they wouldn't go that late? Particularly at the end of March.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,607 ✭✭✭Oscar_Madison
    #MEGA MAKE EUROPE GREAT AGAIN


    I hope to Christ they search properly this time - my understanding is that they ARE liable for the damage caused to the house in this instance - there is a process is place for claiming- I think it goes straight to the commissioners office - anyway, as their making a big mess they shouldn’t stop till they’re certain nothing is there .

    But they must have some information to go to these lengths



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 316 ✭✭Feets


    Apparently the new owner was digging and found the remains...so I imagine the new owner may not want to be hanging around after this. Awful sad for them and the family of the deceased. How was it not sniffed out years ago.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 165 ✭✭LunaLoo


    If remains had been found the coroner would have been called in by now im sure.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,253 ✭✭✭Genghis


    I heard the US lawyer this morning on Morning Ireland it's worth a listen back.

    He fairly strongly debunked the Enniskerry / Glencullen line of enquiry. One thing he mentioned on the groceries, as well as them being unpacked, was they were ingredients Annie needed for her job, she worked in a nearby bakery. He was saying not only were they not put away they were bought as Annie was expected in work next day (debunking the idea she would be heading to Wicklow for a session).



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,085 ✭✭✭cap.in.hand.


    Sure they'd be no need for cadaver dog if that was the case....the brothers who are suspects were living there...that's a good enough reason to examine it.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,200 ✭✭✭mrslancaster



    If the guy arrested is 62, he would have been 30 when Annie disappeared so maybe the older ones had moved out by then.
    This journalist says Annie stayed in that family home in Clondalkin.

    https://www.radioespial.com/2022/10/radio-espial-episode-23-annie-mccarrick.html



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 165 ✭✭LunaLoo


    The first time she lived in Ireland, she then went back to the US before making permanent move to Ireland



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,150 ✭✭✭MrMusician18


    The gardai don't pay out for damage caused by searches unless negligence is proved. So says the minister for justice:

    "claims from property owners for damage caused to their properties arising from searches undertaken by the Garda Síochána are managed by the State Claims Agency (SCA).

    Each claim is considered separately, having regard to the particular facts of the case.

    The general policy of the State Claims Agency, in relation to such claims, is that where the Gardaí cause damage to property in conducting a search, any claim from the property owner in respect of that damage is contested unless there is demonstrable negligence on the part of the Garda authorities. Other relevant factors taken into account include whether the Gardaí were acting on foot of a search warrant or whether they had other lawful authority to carry out a forced entry to a premises.

    Search warrants authorise the Gardaí to use force to gain entry to a property if necessary and the Gardaí have no legal liability to the property owner for the damage caused in forcing entry to the property in those circumstances. The approach taken by the State Claims Agency in contesting these claims has been upheld by the Courts in a number of claims brought to court by property owners."



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,057 ✭✭✭mazdamiatamx5


    He's also potentially debunking something else, can you see what it is?

    "A couple were worried when they turned up to Ms McCarrick's apartment for a meal and she wasn't there"

    Is there any evidence, apart from their claims, that there even was any such invitation to a meal at Annie's apartment?

    Bear in mind one of the couple is brother of alleged perp.

    This is why I keep going on about 'false alibis'.

    There was also a media reference to rental cars. Perp had contacts in rental car business that were prepared to say 'no, he can't have been there in Sandymount at that time on that date, our records show he booked a car with us at that time and actually I was the one that was working on site that day, I remember there was a bit of a delay so he was on the premises for a few hours waiting for his rental to arrive'

    Or alternatively: "oh yes, I remember booking a rental car for that couple, think they said they were going to Sandymount for a meal or something like that"



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,057 ✭✭✭mazdamiatamx5


    Indeed, no remains have been found so far. Apparently there was a local rumour that current owner found remains but it's not correct.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,057 ✭✭✭mazdamiatamx5


    It really isn't. Cops can't go up digging peoples gardens on the basis of suspicion around what former residents might or might not have buried there, that's not how it works. If they've bought in cadaver dog, hopefully means it will get a sniff of something.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,057 ✭✭✭mazdamiatamx5


    Reading and researching this stuff, at times, you'd wish for the days of the Heavy Gang and Special Branch and the Flying Squad (YOU'RE NICKED, MATE!) in London, but that approach doesn't work, just leads to false confessions and so on. Or even true confessions but then perp gets off on 'coppers bate me up, made me sign confession, I didn't do it'. Does a few years and gets out and then becomes a big hero, sues the state for false imprisonment for big money Steady steady wins the race. Hopefully.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,607 ✭✭✭Oscar_Madison
    #MEGA MAKE EUROPE GREAT AGAIN


    There’s no way in hell Gardai will dig up an innocent families house and leave them wanting for proper repair- no way in hell - the family will be properly compensated - I post that without fear of contradiction - whoever the current owners of that home, they deserve every recompense for disruption and destruction - it’s that simple



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