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Israel Launches strike against Irans Nuclear Programme

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,869 ✭✭✭✭nacho libre


    Yes because if we cut through the propaganda and analyze what the Iranian government actually does they are quite calculated and rationale in their foreign policy decisions. If the propaganda about them being a fanatical death cult, who love martyrdom over life, were indeed true they would have engaged in an all out war with Israel long before now and been happy to achieve their martyrdom in defeat. As you say even in the event of them acquiring a nuke I don't see them using one as what they would receive in return would ensure the end of their regime. The real reason Bibi does not want Iran with a nuclear weapon is because it gives Iran leverage and upsets the power balance in the region.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,835 ✭✭✭✭TheValeyard


    More attacks taking place right now

    No sign of any Iranain response or air defence.

    No sign of anything

    Iran appears to be defenceless.

    If the people realise just how weak the regime is, might lead to revolution.

    Looks like I picked the wrong week to quit sniffing glue



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,108 ✭✭✭✭Strazdas


    Exactly - if Iran wanted to 'destroy Israel' and 'wipe it off the face of the earth', they would have invaded long ago and not even have been worried about the consequences for themselves.

    One wonders if the vast legions of Zionist bots on social media even believe this 'Israel is fighting for its very survival' stuff or if they are motivated purely by racism and malice.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 839 ✭✭✭poop emoji


    Turns out selling all your drones and missiles to another shithole regime to terrorise European cities every night and in return get crappy Russian equipment which is as useful as a paper towel was a bad strategy

    Who knew eh?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,835 ✭✭✭✭TheValeyard


    Russia is about to loose an important ally

    Tonight will be very interesting. Either Iran goes all in, or it's government begins the death march.

    Looks like I picked the wrong week to quit sniffing glue



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 23,190 ✭✭✭✭Tell me how


    I'm neither confused nor playing mental gymnastics in order to absolve Israel for their actions.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,623 ✭✭✭hawley


    If Iran has made the destruction of Israel its primary goal since 1979, why did Israel provide them with billions of dollars worth of weapons in the 1980s?

    Communication was the greatest fatality



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,367 ✭✭✭✭mrcheez


    Just as my pension was recovering… 😩



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 8,105 ✭✭✭plodder


    I do wonder is the regime close to a tipping point and is that the real purpose of the Israeli attack? When you read stuff like this, which was published last week …

    ‘Dog Walking Is a Clear Crime’: Iran’s Latest Morality Push

    The government regards pet dogs as a sign of Western cultural influence. They are also considered impure, in Islam. Now there is a crackdown.

    https://www.nytimes.com/2025/06/09/world/middleeast/iran-dog-walking-bans.html?unlocked_article_code=1.Ok8.CEo1.Zin08WQ1oDFx&smid=url-share

    “Prayer is invalid with the presence of dog hair,” his fatwa read.

    Some Iranian veterinarians and pet surgeons, like Dr. Damoon Ansari, are skeptical of the recent moves.

    “Each summer, new plans emerge to regulate citizens’ morality or lifestyles,” Dr. Ansari, who is based in Tehran, said in a phone interview. “This year, the focus is on dogs and dog walking.

    “The popularity of pet ownership has surged in recent years,” Dr. Ansari said, pointing to a large number of veterinary clinics in cities across the country.

    “Pets, including dogs, have become integral to Iranian family culture, even in religious households,” he said, adding, “Whether officials approve or not, they cannot eliminate the millions of pets in Iran.”

    “Fanaticism is always a sign of repressed doubt” - Carl Jung



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 839 ✭✭✭poop emoji


    Thanks for the unlocked article

    It’s heartening to see that Iranians are putting their dogs ahead of religious nonsense, hopefully they overthrow these mad mullahs, these people don’t deserve all the **** they getting dragged into

    'The greatness of a nation can be judged by the way its animals are treated.' - Ghandi


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 850 ✭✭✭batman75


    I think the Israeli attack has two goals. Render Iran militarily impotent and force regime change. If Iran can't muster a significant response to Israel's aggression them the regime loses face and will ultimately fall.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,533 ✭✭✭combat14


    Trump urges Iran to reach nuclear deal 'before there is nothing left' - warning that the attacks will only get worse

    seems the iranians still have an opt out if they quit their nuclear weapons programme



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,095 ✭✭✭Sudden Valley


    Iran doesn't want to be another Iraq so I doubt it will give up its nuclear programme. Hard to see how this will end as the regime there wont want to give in to pressure from Israel and the US



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 31,099 ✭✭✭✭breezy1985


    The regime is not weak at defending itself on an internal front. It is just weak against an extremely well equipped modern army.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 31,099 ✭✭✭✭breezy1985




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,283 ✭✭✭✭banie01


    I wonder when Iran decides that it doesn't need to worry about building a fission warhead? That if it just starts salting it's HE warheads with Uranium 235, Caesium or other radioactive elements and seeing how many they can land on the Holy land.

    What Israel will do when it's rendered uninhabitable? Yes Israel has an effective drone and missile defence but, it can't stop every weapon and Israel is a relatively small country. It wouldn't take many such warheads of the 500lb + category to leak through to make the country a radioactive hot spot for a few decades.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,133 ✭✭✭TokTik


    How come Israel doesn’t have to adhere to the agreement?? When was the last time their nuclear arsenal was inspected by independent groups??



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,637 ✭✭✭brickster69


    The peacemaker has woke up. Nuclear negotiations due to take place on Sunday have been cancelled according to Iran unsurprisingly, quite obvious this attack has been planned for quite a while.

    peace.jpg

    "if you get on the wrong train, get off at the nearest station, the longer it takes you to get off, the more expensive the return trip will be."



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,936 ✭✭✭Homelander


    This doesn't even make sense.

    How could Iran possibly invade Israel? Or vice versa for that matter. The countries are more than 2 thousand kilometres apart.

    It's pretty much the same distance from London to the Russian border, not to mention the countries in between.

    It can only ever be a long-range war and for that Israel is 20x better equipped.

    So no, the idea that Iran would have "invaded long ago" is no sort of validation whatsoever that Iran doesn't really want Israel gone from the local map.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,533 ✭✭✭combat14


    "what israel will do when its rendered uninhabitable?"

    probably make all its enemies uninhabitable as well...



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,108 ✭✭✭✭Strazdas


    Never mind the distances, why hasn't full scale war between Iran and Israel already happened? If Iran is supposedly a psychotic, maniacal regime whose sole raison d'etre is to 'destroy Israel', this war to the death would have happened many years ago - they certainly wouldn't have waited 30 to 40 years to try and develop a nuclear weapon.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,423 ✭✭✭✭A Dub in Glasgo


    The terrorist state strikes again



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,714 ✭✭✭✭pjohnson


    "If Iran is supposedly a psychotic maniacal regime"

    I knew Iran would be retconned to being respectable now "Evil Israel" has attacked the poor guys.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,533 ✭✭✭combat14


    conflicting damage at iran nuclear facilities - trump giving iran 1 more chance to negotiate after previous 60 day ultimatum just expired

    Iran’s Atomic Energy Organisation said that most of the damage from Israeli air strikes targeting its underground uranium enrichment facility at Natanz was at ground level, AFP reports.

    “Most of the damage is on the surface level,” said the organisation’s spokesman Behrouz Kamalvandi, adding that there had been “no casualties” at the facility where the enrichment centrifuges are housed underground.

    Reuters has reported an Israeli military spokesperson as saying the strikes had damaged the Natanz facility '“significantly”.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,936 ✭✭✭Homelander


    Because Iran can't destroy Israel, and it cannot take it on in any sort of war. It doesn't have the means and never has.

    Hence why it chooses to fund proxies like Hamas and Hezbollah instead.

    I don't know how you can say "never mind the distances" when the countries are 2,000km apart.

    The only way Iran could threaten Israel in an existential sense is via a nuclear weapon, or having a sophisticated air force and power projection capability.

    It has none of those things, and a nuclear weapon at this stage is the only thing it could reasonably obtain.

    Israel has bombed Iran many, many times to (as Israel claims) stop development of nuclear weapons. This isn't a new development. There's no need for an all-out-war because it doesn't even make sense for either side.

    Again, they are thousands of km from each other. There's no need for Israel to wage a long-term war like that when they can just periodically sweep in, obliterate Iranian targets/forces, and fly home with zero damage.

    Iran has no effective way whatsoever to strike at Israel via conventional means, let alone engage in some kind of actual longer-term war.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,108 ✭✭✭✭Strazdas


    If Iran is a terrorist state, do you accept that Israel is also a terrorist state (and by far the more aggressive of the two)?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,869 ✭✭✭✭nacho libre


    It could be weak internally now because its enemy has wiped out most of the military leadership that is responsible for crushing internal dissent. An underground bunker didn't save them

    If Iran cannot come up with a response that will have the Americans keen to deescalate the situation it could be curtains for the regime. They should look to the deal Donnie made with the Houthis when considering what would be the most effective response.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,714 ✭✭✭✭pjohnson


    I'm pretty sure only Israel are terrorists nowadays. Most of the more classical terrorists are now innocent "freedom fighters" or "victims"



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 794 ✭✭✭Randycove




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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,108 ✭✭✭✭Strazdas


    That's fair enough and would be my take too. Two sets of terrorists squaring up to each other, with Israel the more aggressive and proactive of the two.



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