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Donald Trump the Megathread part II - Mod Warning added to OP 10/1/26

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 12,013 ✭✭✭✭J Mysterio


    I've been to a Red Sox game in Fenway actually, I just didn't necessarily see them as 'Irish', more just the local team. I'm aware there is a huge Irish/ American-Irish community, and bore witness to them in Dorchester/ Adams Village/ Southie.

    They could have gone for 'Green Sox' or 'Celtic Sox' maybe, to make it easier for me.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,687 ✭✭✭threeball


    Are the Americans going to allow 10s of 1000s of foreigners through immigration when the time comes around. You'll have supporters from all over south america, the middle east and theres a good chance he'll have fallen out with the Europeans by then (maybe even at war with them by then, who knows?).



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 44,173 ✭✭✭✭ancapailldorcha


    Yes. The country is built on perpetual immigration.

    The foreigner residing among you must be treated as your native-born. Love them as yourself, for you were foreigners in Egypt. I am the LORD your God.

    Leviticus 19:34



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 37,752 ✭✭✭✭odyssey06


    Iran have already qualified for the World Cup. They are currently on the travel ban list.

    That's not compatible with hosting a World Cup.

    "To follow knowledge like a sinking star..." (Tennyson's Ulysses)



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 839 ✭✭✭poop emoji


    So now the national guard broken the law

    Local commander is furiously trying to row back on his own statements after someone must have pointed out its illegal

    Under the Posse Comitatus Act, active-duty forces are prohibited by law from conducting law enforcement. Sherman said all of the Guard troops and Marines are going through several days of training on civil unrest and crowd control so they know exactly what they can and can’t do.”



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 941 ✭✭✭Baba Yaga


    well…he sent the marines to invade los angeles…as well as the national guard…

    yo! donnie vonredactedpants,vlad putin,benji netanyahu,vic orban..you sirs are the skidmarks on the jocks of humanity!!!



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,980 ✭✭✭yagan


    USD slides to $1.16 per €.

    It's been weaker before but it's the velocity of the slide that's very new.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,092 ✭✭✭✭aloyisious


    In a way, Trump is the GOP's worst enemy. He keeps pushing out lies when talking about current events and incidents when it's been made clear by the news channels [incl Fox] film crews what the reality is. He's probably the best recruiter for those who want people to vote Democrat and it matters not the blind bit of difference to him or even some of his administration cabinet officers as they repeat what he said verbatim. So pardon me if I say: keep it up Don, you know best….

    Cue the report that the Speaker of the House, the gent allegedly doing his best to get his fellow GOP members to vote for the big beautiful bill is worried that due to Trumps activities, the Dems will gain enough ground to turn the House blue at the midterm and make Trumps last two years in the Oval Office powerless.

    I used the word ALLEGEDLY because there was another of those mysterious news stories yesterday that the Speaker was not working hard enough in the House to ensure its GOP members were in step with Trump to get the bill across the line, implicitly that the Speaker had taken his eye and foot off the accelerator while controlling the members in the house.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 839 ✭✭✭poop emoji


    IMG_5917.jpeg

    Why try to hide the cost?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,639 ✭✭✭amandstu




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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,687 ✭✭✭threeball




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 44,173 ✭✭✭✭ancapailldorcha


    Ever since the country began:

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    https://www.migrationpolicy.org/programs/data-hub/charts/immigrant-population-over-time

    Obviously, the line dips now and again but the trend is ever upwards and is so for a reason.

    The foreigner residing among you must be treated as your native-born. Love them as yourself, for you were foreigners in Egypt. I am the LORD your God.

    Leviticus 19:34



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,687 ✭✭✭threeball


    Like I said, the US welcomed immigration before, not now. You really think Trump wants 10,000 additional Iranians knocking around or allow 50,000 Mexicans in.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 22,142 ✭✭✭✭kneemos


    I think they are welcome and very much needed. They contribute massively to the GDP.

    Trump has a bee in his bonnet for some reason,but he's an economic idiot.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 839 ✭✭✭poop emoji




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 8,620 ✭✭✭plodder


    Being ridiculed the way he tries to ridicule others, is a dangerous situation for someone like Trump. This is like Bertie Ahern's "smoke and daggers"

    During his speech, Trump attempted to criticize former President Joe Biden’s intelligence, saying, “He’s never been the sharpest bulb.”

    “He was there to commemorate the 250th anniversary of the army, so, of course, he ended up discussing Joe Biden.” — DESI LYDIC

    “What a wordsmith. See, see, most people would’ve gone with ‘brightest bulb,’ or ‘sharpest tool,’ but Donald Trump took half of both and smushed them together. That is what makes him the cream of the litter.” — DESI LYDIC

    “But that’s Trump — he’s not the brightest knife in the drawer. Some say he’s two tacos short of a Happy Meal.” — JIMMY KIMMEL

    “He wasn’t the sharpest bulb, no. He wasn’t the brightest knife in the drawer.” — JIMMY FALLON

    “When Trump’s staff told him that he misquoted the idiom, he was, like, ‘Hey, who are you calling an idiom?’” — JIMMY FALLON

    https://www.nytimes.com/2025/06/12/arts/television/desi-lydic-trump-military-parade.html

    “The opposite of 'good' is 'good intentions'”



  • Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 17,543 Mod ✭✭✭✭Manic Moran


    They hadn't, given they hadn't detained anyone.

    However, the actual limits of federal military authority in this sort of situation have never been tested in court. Whilst they are prohibited from carrying out law enforcement actions, there is a long-standing precedent and a slew of opinions from the Office of Legal Counsel dating back to the 60s and 70s (itself relying on caselaw going back as far as the late 1890s) that federal troops can 'remove obstructions to federal functions' (It's the same precedent which includes protection of federal facilities). Very arguably, someone assaulting an ICE official or maybe a civilian federal employee trying to get into the federal building (As per the 1895 case authorising military use to allow mailmen to get to work), is an obstruction to a federal function so some form of intervention is authorised. If that's 'grab until he can be arrested' or 'beat him up until he goes away but don't arrest him' has not been determined anywhere.

    The problem is all the lawyers over on /r/law keep looking to civilian law enforcement precedent as that's what they're used to when the military are relying on precedent related to Title 10 military code (Specifically 10 USC 252). Not the first time. The amount of discussion I've had with civilian police agencies who believe I can't order them to go arrest certain people (in my non-federal capacity) without a judge signing off (or in Texas without any paperwork at all and just a verbal order) proves to me that civilian lawyers have limited knowledge of military-based laws. I get it, they are very obscure laws and they eventually see the light once I walk them through the code, that doesn't make it any less valid.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,745 ✭✭✭randd1


    The Democrats of course.

    Because the Republicans are the most pathetic excuse of a party to ever exist, they simply cannot accept being in charge. Responsibility simply hurts their brains, they're too stupid to handle it.

    So if it works, it's God's will, and if it doesn't, it's the Democrats fault. So simple their pathetic little brains can handle it.



  • Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 17,543 Mod ✭✭✭✭Manic Moran


    Abbott has historically had a tendency to lean towards "better to have and not need, than need and not have" to anything from hurricane relief to civil disturbance ops. Since Texas is a big place, 'calling out the guard' isn't that quick a thing to do. I live three hours from my unit in a straight shot (My previous unit was 8 hours away). Add to that time to get home, pack, report to home station, move to a training site, get equipped with riot gear, get the refresher training, and then deploy to wherever (Dallas, Austin, San Antonio etc, none of those locations are within 90 minutes of my unit), 'same day' requests get difficult. Consider folks were complaining about the 8 hours it took the deploy the D.C. Guard on 6 January. A lot of us can't physically get to wherever in 8 hours even before any delays or discussions get involved, so the headstart is necessary.

    I would also observe that the Texas Guard has thousands of personnel on duty at the Southern Border who are already being paid and can be transported. Eagle Pass, where a lot are based, to Dallas is a 7-hour drive in a car, let alone a military vehicle. To Houston is "only" six hours.

    For other precedent, I've personally spent a week in California just sitting around an armory in the Central Valley waiting to see if anyone wanted us, and though Guardsmen were called up during the BLM riots in Texas, I don't recall any of them actually being sent onto the streets, local/state law enforcement seemed to do well enough.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,012 ✭✭✭Potatoeman


    Like it or not ICE have a mandate to enforce deportation orders. These ‘mostly peaceful protests’ are looting stores again. Are the riots in the north mostly peaceful too or is it just mostly peaceful when they are approved by the left?



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,092 ✭✭✭✭aloyisious


    Probably Pope Leo as he's doing a live screening to the faithful in his hometown Chicago on Sat next at the same time the Washington review is on. It'd be nice to see a photo of Trump mouthing off about the weather with JD Vance beside him.



  • Moderators, Politics Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 17,324 Mod ✭✭✭✭Quin_Dub


    I don't know about Ticket Sales.

    You'd imagine that the bulk of attendees at next years Tournament would come from the following groups in descending order

    • Overseas fans travelling to support their teams
    • 1st/2nd Generation Immigrants living in US with a soccer tradition , supporting their "home" country.
    • American Soccer fans

    There's going to be a whole lot less of the 1st two categories interested in going to games if things continue the way they are in the US and I don't think there's enough of the 3rd category to fill the gaps.

    US Tourism is already down 10-15% and that was before they started the worst of their "ICE Raid" nonsense.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,980 ✭✭✭yagan


    Park your lefty/righty biases for a sec. The problem seems to be ice are detaining people, including us citizens (see my earlier link about a us marshall being detained).



  • Moderators, Politics Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 17,324 Mod ✭✭✭✭Quin_Dub


    As always the key issue here is not the WHAT it's the HOW.

    There are few if any people that would have issues with criminal illegal immigrants begin arrested on foot of a warrant , being charged, convicted and then deported.

    However what is happening is that Trump is doing these "Made for TV" raids with heavily armed thugs hanging off the side of trucks as they speed down city streets. These raids are modern day lynch-mobs.

    They have no warrants , they have no list of names - They are simply rolling into parts of town where Brown people are known to be and detaining every brown-skinned person they can see and creating fear and anger as they ride roughshod over everyones rights.

    Then if people complain about these methods, Trump et al will scream and claim that they "HATE AMERICA" and "WANT OPEN BORDERS" or that they "SUPPORT RAPISTS AND MURDERERS".

    Is it disappointing that a few people turn violent and or take the opportunity for a bit of robbery/looting among the chaos ? Of course , but that doesn't diminish the fact that the reason for the protest is absolutely due to the heavy-handed racial profiling and abuse of the constitution being carried out by the ICE teams.

    If you or your family/friends are getting screamed at , man-handled and abused simply because of the colour of your skin , an angry response shouldn't be a surprise to the aggressors.

    Even the most placid dog will eventually bite you if you keep on kicking it..



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,012 ✭✭✭Potatoeman


    Provide identification. It’s still not a valid reason for a riot. Who do you think is going to pay for the property damage, it’s not going to be ICE or Donald Trump. There are minority owned businesses being ruined by rioters too.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,980 ✭✭✭yagan


    There wasn't a deportation order on the Irish citizen with the green card.

    Ice facilities are not publicly owned, they're private for profit outfits that charge per detainee.

    They don't get a bonus if someone gets deported, their only interest is detention with or without a warrant.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 30,978 ✭✭✭✭looksee


    So are you maybe suggesting that no one should ever hold a protest in case a few antisocial chancers take the opportunity to mill with the crowd and do a bit of looting and vandalism on the side?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 23,788 ✭✭✭✭Akrasia


    Its costing hundreds of millions of dollars to 'police' these riots.
    By police, it's actually foment and provoke the 'riots'

    And by Riots, it's actually, police gassing, shooting, battoning and arresting mostly peacefully protestors, and then some looters taking advantage of the chaos to take advantage while the entire policing system is distracted

    Chomsky(2017) on the Republican party

    "Has there ever been an organisation in human history that is dedicated, with such commitment, to the destruction of organised human life on Earth?"



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,526 ✭✭✭Economics101


    ICE are not enforcing deportation orders. They do not go around with orders naming someone who they pick up. No court orders involved, and very little due process for those rounded up, by all accounts. What percentage of protestors and demonstrators engage inunlawful and violent behaviour?

    And what does your reference to "the north" (Ballymena, Larne?) mean. These are not approved by the left: they seem to be quite the opposite. And they are not some offshoot from large peaceful protests.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,558 ✭✭✭✭Frank Bullitt


    Provide identification.

    Maybe they could just get the immigrants to wear a band around their arm, with a symbol on it, that would help.



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