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Connacht Team Talk Thread VI - Some like it TOH

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 328 ✭✭Strand1970


    I would keep Murphy and let Blade go to Ulster. Blade for own his career needs to move.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 40,776 ✭✭✭✭eagle eye


    Blade is 31, he is the one we should let go. He's not a guaranteed starter and Devine has to get experience.

    In my opinion Murphy is now better than Blade.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 40,776 ✭✭✭✭eagle eye


    I wasn't saying that Baird will come to Connacht. All I'm saying is that starting regularly can improve a player and make him become a serious consideration as a starter at lock for Ireland.

    Baird is playing back row as much if not more often than lock with Leinster and that's hampering his chances of ever becoming a starter for Ireland. It's getting to the stage where he might even lose his spot in the 23.

    Prendergast is becoming a very serious consideration for the Ireland 23 now and Henderson is still there. If Baird doesn't start against Georgia I think he has to seriously consider what he has to do to improve his chances, well that's how I'd feel. He may well stay where he is.

    The fact that the man who worked with all the young players when they broke into the Leinster squad is in Connacht makes it a tempting choice for these players.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,577 ✭✭✭OldRio


    Baird? Seriously?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 885 ✭✭✭Zeugnis


    Good to see McElroy getting on so well at Sale, his release was one of the two inexplicable squad decisions last year:

    https://www.rugbypass.com/news/journeyman-tadgh-mcelroy-battles-the-odds-to-earn-new-deal-at-sale/



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 40,776 ✭✭✭✭eagle eye


    Finlay called up to the Lions, he should have been in it from the start in my opinion. Delighted for him.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,617 ✭✭✭FACECUTTR


    Absolutely fantastic for him. 3 Connacht Lions, stadium redevelopment including high performance centre, top class head coach ! Who would have thought that 15 years ago !!



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 885 ✭✭✭Zeugnis


    This may result in Aungier being called up for the Georgia/Portugal tour, which would be good. It's surely either him or Scott Wilson.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,617 ✭✭✭FACECUTTR


    Stuart was always innovating. It’s addictive to be in that environment'

    Lancaster’s time in Leinster shows what players and coaches in Connacht have ahead of them.6.46am, 7 Jun 202510

    WHETHER IT WAS the tennis ball machine he brought in, the leadership books he would suggest they read, or demanding that they lead analysis meetings, Stuart Lancaster always found new ways of challenging his Leinster players.

    Now, Connacht’s players will be tested by Lancaster’s insatiable pursuit of improvement.

    The Englishman spent seven years working as Leinster’s senior coach, helping them to emerge from a worrying lull to claim a Champions Cup and Pro14 double in 2017/18, his second season with the province.

    There were three other Champions Cup finals during his spell with Leinster, as well as three more Pro14 titles.

    Those who worked with Lancaster during that time fondly remember the achievements, of course, but they also recall just how much he helped them to improve. Lancaster’s influence on Leinster’s squad not only improved the province’s performances but also Ireland’s.

    “He was always innovating and trying to give us opportunities to get better,” says former Leinster and Ireland hooker James Tracy.

    “Because he’s so interested in personal growth and learning and learning from others, you can’t not learn from him.

    “It’s very addictive to be in an environment like that.”

    And it wasn’t just the players. Lancaster had a broader influence on many coaches within the province. This is something he plans to do in Connacht too.

    stuart-lancaster

    St Michael’s College, one of the key providers of players to Leinster, suffered an agonising defeat to Belvedere in the semi-finals of the 2018 Schools Senior Cup.

    The school’s coaches, Andy Skehan and Emmet MacMahon, were still reeling when they got a surprise call from Lancaster, who they hadn’t yet met at that point.

    “He got our numbers and asked to meet us,” says Skehan, director of rugby at St Michael’s.

    “We went through the game and he said it reminded him of the England v Wales game he was involved in at the 2015 World Cup.

    “The learning from that was monumental for us and the development for us as coaches was huge. We put that into practice and then it became a regular thing. At least once a season, if not twice a season, we’d meet him in Leinster or St Michael’s and talk through new ideas he had. We’ve maintained contact even since he left Leinster.”

    Skehan knows many other coaches who have had similar experiences with Lancaster, who also delivered lots of coaching seminars to bigger groups in UCD or Donnybrook. On occasion, Lancaster would bring in young players to ensure there was a practical element on the pitch.

    When Covid struck, Lancaster took the seminars online and spread his enthusiasm for the game even wider.

    “Not only are Connacht getting someone who I think will advance their cause massively at senior level, but he will have an influence across the province into their age-grade teams, pathway, even the community level,” says Skehan.

    “One of Stuart’s greatest strengths is that he’s technically and tactically very astute, but he also has an unbelievable understanding of leadership, culture, and community.”

    Leinster players who were interested in improving their leadership got used to Lancaster sending them videos, slideshows, and books on the topic. He would sit down with individuals to discuss their personal style of leading.

    But as Connacht’s squad will soon find out, Lancaster is not into leading players by the hand. Team meetings in a Lancaster set-up are not just one-way.

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    “You have to come with an opinion,” says Tracy. “He wants you to understand why you did things in training or a game, why things worked or went wrong. You’re not just turning up to be spoon-fed.

    “Instead of telling you, ‘You did this wrong, do this instead,’ he’ll ask you, ‘What were you thinking here?’

    “It means you don’t just have the cop out of, ‘Sorry, I was wrong’ or ‘Sorry, I made a mistake’ because that doesn’t fix anything.

    “If you can get to the root of that issue in a team meeting in front of everyone, it makes you vulnerable but it makes you think more about why you made decisions.”

    Lancaster would task individual players with leading focused meetings. For example, young openside flanker Scott Penny would lead a breakdown preview ahead of the weekend’s game.

    Penny would go away and work with the Leinster analysts to compile footage of the opposition’s strengths and weaknesses around the breakdown, then guide his own team-mates through it in a meeting.

    The same happened with the scrum, the lineout, and other areas of the game. Lancaster and the other Leinster coaches obviously mixed in their views, but the Englishman wanted the players to know their stuff.

    “So then when we were in pressure situations, we understood what to do because we were part of making that plan and understood how the opposition set up,” says Tracy.

    There was a constant focus on technical improvement too.

    “He felt our catch-pass skills needed to be the best in the world if we were going to be able to play a possession-based game,” says Tracy. “We needed to get better under fatigue.”

    So Lancaster would come into the gym with a bag of rugby balls while Leinster’s players were lifting weights. In between sets, he’d start a countdown timer and get them to do handling drills under fatigue, challenging them not to drop a single ball in the two-minute blocks. Lancaster would make as much noise as possible to add more pressure.

    stuart-lancaster-with-willie-ruane-and-cian-prendergast

    He also brought in the tennis ball machine, which allowed players to work on their hand-eye coordination outside of the actual on-pitch sessions. The ball would come at high speed and players had to use ‘soft hands’ to catch it, releasing the tension from their hands so the ball didn’t just bounce away.

    He would send players clips of best practice from other sports. Many of Leinster’s backs remember the footage Lancaster shared with them of Frank Lampard and other top footballers scanning the pitch when they weren’t in possession. They were incessantly scanning all around them before receiving the ball to build a picture of the opportunities once they were in possession. Lancaster wanted them to do the same on the rugby pitch.

    Lancaster, a former teacher, is the epitome of a coach with a growth mindset. Connacht’s players will enjoy the challenges he poses them. He’s a caring coach, but a demanding one too.

    And his time in Leinster suggests that it won’t only be the Connacht players who benefit from Lancaster’s arrival.

    Skehan cites Joe Schmidt as a strong influence on the grassroots game when he was in Leinster, but reckons no one has matched Lancaster in that regard.

    “Stuart’s influence was huge,” says Skehan.

    “From a grassroots to a pathway level, I think Stuart is probably most influential at that level. There’s obviously a good case for him also being the most influential at the senior professional level.

    “So Connacht have got a professional senior coach, but they’ve also got an incredible influencer on the community and pathway and development game that feeds into that.”



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,319 ✭✭✭realhorrorshow


    Worth noting that he did all that without moving to Ireland. It's exciting to think about what he can do for rugby in Connacht as a whole, not just the first team.

    I'm intrigued to see if he can get an extra gear out of Mack Hansen, who always seems less focused when playing for us than the national team. Perhaps he can revitalise guys like Niall Murray and David Hawkshaw, who have talent but have fallen through the cracks a bit.

    Cian Prendergast is a similar age and has a similar number of caps to Josh van Der Flier when Lancaster first arrived at Leinster, but on top of that has taken on a leadership role at a very young age. Everything I've seen suggests that he has the work rate and attitude to follow in van Der Flier's footsteps with the right guidance.

    While Leinster under Lancaster were obviously very successful in feeding top tier u20s like Porter, Ryan, Doris etc. through to the first team, perhaps more impressive was their development of less heralded prospects such as Dan Sheehan, Jimmy O'Brien, and Hugo Keenan. Perhaps there are some diamonds in the rough who can break through, in addition to obvious elite talents like Hugh Gavin, Finn Treacy, and Sean Walsh.

    Off pitch improvements in culture and the development of players and coaches don't automatically result in on pitch improvements, but based on Lancaster's track record I expect relatively swift improvement in our skill levels, breakdown accuracy, and defence. If we can ally those to our already strong lineout and some pragmatism (i.e. adding a functional kicking game and playing in the right areas), I'm confident the results will improve relatively swiftly.

    It feels great to be positive about Connacht rugby again, and to start to daydream about a trip back to Ireland for the first game after the new stand opens.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 328 ✭✭Strand1970


    If Lancaster took an interest in connacht schools rugby that would be fantastic. Would definitely keep players in the game longer and maybe attract a few that would have naturally gone towards county underage GAA.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,631 ✭✭✭Lost Ormond


    And youths considering how intertwined the two are in connacht even more than other provinces



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 956 ✭✭✭CowboyTed


    That is my thinking… That is why I was saying we might be better to kind of take a swap… Murphy is the obvious pick for Leinster… Devine is us…



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 956 ✭✭✭CowboyTed


    I think Blade is better for Ulster too… They need a senior head who still has pace…



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,436 ✭✭✭PCeeeee


    Good interview with Stuart on you tube. I'd love to play for him



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 956 ✭✭✭CowboyTed


    He mentioned it in his first interview about getting out of Galway and getting to the clubs and working with Elwood…

    I assume that includes schools which he noted for doing in Leinster…

    They say when he was in schools(he is an ex PE teacher) his passion was infectious…



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 885 ✭✭✭Zeugnis


    Soroka would be a great recruit, even if it was just for a season. But I prefer him at 6 and Cian already has that covered - don't think he's big enough to be a powerhouse lock.

    At hooker we could pursue John McKee, he's a good player, but will he come west? He's an Ulsterman who made a ballsy decision to go to Leinster instead of taking the easy option, but there's presumably a route home to Belfast. It was a mistake to release McElroy.

    McErlean might be a possibility and might make a good 15. There's only congestion for him at Leinster so it would make sense.

    Otherwise, I'm glad Lancaster will be in a position to make some decisions about our outhalf problem, Wilkins was useless from that perspective.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 552 ✭✭✭ShineyShiney


    Connacht have 1 position the scrum half position where we have 3 top end competitors. It's like everyone has a problem with that, I don't. All 3 are contracted for next season, all 3 will remain Connacht players for next season. This is a good thing, good players competing isn't that what we want?

    Talk about Baird is silly stuff. JDV, Conan, POM, Henderson are all coming towards the end of their careers. Guys like Baird, Aherne, Cian P, Coombes etc will see their chance at replacing them. They have all committed to contracts with their current clubs. Any speculation about them for next season is misguided regardless of how much they might love Lancaster.

    Targeting young players that most of us won't have heard of, unless we are active in the under age system , for our academy intake every season is where the game is at. Competing for their signings.

    Look at the examples of this policy in our current squad. Illo, Lasisi, Prendergast, Tracey, Naughton, EMcCarthy. If we get higher quality into our academy then we get them into our team earlier.

    We lack playing numbers we have to promote our own and pinch guys from the fringes of other squads and at the point of entry to academy. Internationals will not be switching province to Connacht imo.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,319 ✭✭✭realhorrorshow


    I don't think we need necessarily be restricted to signing young, unknown players. In 2022 we signed Peter Dooley, Josh Murphy, and Adam Byrne. With the caveat that Byrne had suffered significant injury setbacks, all three were in their prime and had between 108, 61, and 66 Leinster appearances under their belt at the time.

    These signings were a step up from our usual Leinster import in terms of experience and profile, and allied with the signing of a highly rated prospect in David Hawkshaw, signalled what I believed to be a significant show of confidence in the Andy Friend project. Unfortunately, we declined under Wilkins and the quality of signing declined commensurately.

    A poorly coached, lower half team was not an exciting prospect for talented Leinster squad players in particular. However, a Lancaster led outfit competing in the tip half is a much more attractive proposition, and maybe one that can compete the next time a Michael Milne or Lee Barron is on the market.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,879 ✭✭✭b.gud


    Bealham officially called up to the lions squad in place of Zander Ferguson



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,617 ✭✭✭FACECUTTR


    Jack Aungier called up to the ireland team.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,300 ✭✭✭seanin4711


    Elverys heavily reducing last seasons gear.

    Connacht Rugby | Irish Rugby | Intersport Elverys

    Is there a gear change on the cards for 25/26?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,159 ✭✭✭KBurke85




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,617 ✭✭✭FACECUTTR


    You absolutely nailed it. It's far more than just a new head coach. It's going to breathe new life into everything from grassroots, club and school rugby. I'm sure he will throw himself into the community too.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 552 ✭✭✭ShineyShiney


    I totally agree RHS, the fringes of other squads is also an option for us like the guys mentioned, but thinking guys who are currently in Leinster's first team and Irish squads is highly unlikely. We will only attract guys who can't break into that space. Soroka, deeney, culhane and mangan if they can't break into the first team proper might consider a move next season.

    I was disappointed that Baron wasn't in the conversation with us this season and I totally agree that we would have been an option if Lancaster was here last year.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 862 ✭✭✭RonnieL


    3 Connacht players in the Lions squad is phenomenal - I know people were joking about us having as many players as Wales when the squad was announced……so I assume we've overtaken them?!

    Strange times to be a fan of the province - fresh off a depressingly poor season, but we're all full of positivity for the next one.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 956 ✭✭✭CowboyTed


    We have as many players as Wales, Munster and Ulster combined….

    That is just crazy… Well done to the lads…

    What it shows that if Connacht players get into the International set up they excel… Which is great…



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 40,776 ✭✭✭✭eagle eye


    We have three players with the Lions and six players in the summer tour squad. I've been saying all along that we have a good squad and don't need many additions to be really competitive. We've got Jansen and Forde who would be on the verge of that Ireland squad and some nice young players too.

    We probably need improvement in the second row and at out-half but not much else.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 956 ✭✭✭CowboyTed


    Bernard Jackman said at the very end of of against the head that their are high quality players looking at moving to Connacht Academy this summer because of Lancaster.

    Season Tickets sales are going very well…

    Real Buzz about next years starting.. I expected we would get a lift by a new coach but this is a good bit beyaond my expectations…

    Bit of bulk in the pack and and outhalf is what we need… We might have a enough to get away with it… Josh and Jack not having to kick penalties might be a big difference… Josh has to learn how to kick off the hand into the wind (give him a O'Niells on the 22 against the wind, he will figure it out)…



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 40,776 ✭✭✭✭eagle eye


    Its only a couple of days ago that I was talking about Lancaster attracting players, particularly from Leinster and I had a couple of people challenging my thoughts.

    Let's see how it goes.



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