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Donald Trump the Megathread part II - mod warnings in OP, Updated 06/06/25

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,298 ✭✭✭✭My name is URL


    A man that once ran 'sexiest child' competitions is doing all of this. People are defending him… , others just care about tariffs.

    There's no coming back from this from a decency point of view



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,016 ✭✭✭✭aloyisious


    My advice to any military officer who is given a mobilisation order is to produce a notebook and insist that it be written in the book, timed, dated and signed by the person issuing the order. If there is a refusal to provide the request, that is grounds enough to inform the person issuing the order that the refusal is tantamount to an admission that the order is unlawful and contrary to military law, and an offence which must be reported as such to the MP's, if not JAG. ABC is the best policy. It's better to be called a pain in the ass than fall for a false order.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 763 ✭✭✭RickBlaine


    UK journalist Ian Dunt posted something on Friday that I've been thinking about, especially as I follow US politics quite a lot. He wrote it in response to the Trump / Musk fall out but it really can be applied to anything Trump and his cruel, moronic, and sycophantic administration does:

    "I'm so mortified by the emotional and psychological load these people weigh on us. A whole world watching this and it's just… crap. Utter crap. An idiot boy on ketamine calling people a paedophile. A man who cannot write without reverting to capslocks, who cannot speak without lying. It's all just so pitiful and embarrassing. The fact that we have to pay attention embarrasses me. The fact any of this is in any way relevant embarrasses me."



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,016 ✭✭✭✭aloyisious


    I'd never have thought of the Democrats as Anarchists burning down cities all over the US for years.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,776 ✭✭✭✭MisterAnarchy


    Its not fascism asking for law and order to be kept.

    California is willfully ignoring immigration laws that govern the entire land.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,141 ✭✭✭✭A Dub in Glasgo




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,842 ✭✭✭eightieschewbaccy


    Given the fact the administration has been engaging in illegal deportations, I can understand why individual states aren't very trusting of them. The President and his cronies are wildly ignoring the laws that govern the land but you're fine with that.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 811 ✭✭✭technocrat


    I suspect you’ve never been to the states going by your comments.

    Infrastructure over there is 3rd world compared to most European countries.

    Crumbling rusting subways same with critical bridges and this is in New York the country’s richest city!



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,466 ✭✭✭Wolf359f


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    I assume under normal circumstances, when the governor requests the Nation Guard they help them with food and accommodation? I'm guessing they can only use federal facilities unless the governor assigns the state digs?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,171 ✭✭✭✭briany


    There is a legal and moral argument to deport illegal migrants who have been involved in crime, particularly serious crime. Not so much of a moral argument to uproot illegal migrants who are working low paid jobs that help keep the economy running, who have put down roots and are involved in their communities. You're not only affecting their lives when you do that, you're messing with whole interconnected communities. At that point, you've only got the law argument, but you're really not hearing the mood music.

    As ever, when Trump supporters want to be left alone, it's all about states' autonomy then, but when it's something they want to mess with, the federal government cannot be big enough.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,944 ✭✭✭yagan


    Actually nearly all states became dependent on irregular immigration since it become a defacto economic policy in the 1940s.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 23,290 ✭✭✭✭extra gravy


    Marines now mobilised which is illegal unless the Felon invokes the Insurrection Act. Where's that poster who was so bothered about the rule of law being ignored? Oh yes, it's the usual suspect, never mind.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 36,083 ✭✭✭✭odyssey06


    Trump incited a mob to overturn an election result, and pardons people who attacked the police defending law and order.

    He is a rapist and a felon, engaged in corruption and bribes on a vast scale - the air force one is the visible one, his cryptocurrency the obfuscated one.

    Its fascism when masked goons abduct people off the street without due process.

    Must have missed any posts from you criticising that.

    Trump doesnt give a damn about law and order. His actions are intended to undermine it.

    Proof positive any posts expressing concern for law and order are merely a partisan pretence.

    "To follow knowledge like a sinking star..." (Tennyson's Ulysses)



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 239 ✭✭Roald Dahl


    I'm well aware of his turbocharged golf cart and the incessant cheating it allows him.

    As for him stepping down after his second term, I wish I shared your optimism, but the way I see it there is no way on earth he will do this. The only way I see this happening is if ill health claims him or if he installs a direct family member as his dynastic heir because it suits him to do so.

    To paraphrase a speech from history:

    Trump is America, just as America is Trump

    America is now Trumpland.

    With an eye on current events, if the Marines allow themselves to be debased and are indeed deployed to Los Angeles we will know with unconditional certainty who will be president come 2029.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,016 ✭✭✭✭aloyisious


    It seems that the policy of chickening out on levies being applied against China is alive and well in Trumpland. Trump authorised the reduction in strength of some levies he imposed on China, telling Bessent and the others on the trade meeting with China in London today of the reductions.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 23,290 ✭✭✭✭extra gravy


    LA County is also 34% foreign born, what are 700 marines going to do if even a fraction of those 3.5 million people come out and resist?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,776 ✭✭✭✭MisterAnarchy


    Newsom and Bass arent doing their jobs.

    Newsom could have had the LAPD, LASD, Highway Patrol, there to immediately shut down the riots and ensure other demonstrators actually protested peacefully.

    Newsom is weak.

    The "Peaceful Protests" nonsense is being mentioned again.

    Orwell was right "The party told you to reject the evidence of your eyes and your ears. It was their final, most essential command".



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 29,834 ✭✭✭✭looksee


    From the BBC at 9.35pm

    US Marines on 'high alert'published at 21:3521:35

    We've just had clarification from our US partner CBS on what role the US Marines may take on in the Los Angeles protests.

    More than 700 Marines have been put on high alert and could be mobilised in the coming days to support the National Guard, CBS reports.

    We have contacted the Pentagon for comment.

    Earlier, we reported that the Marines had been deployed in a support role.

    So, more a threat than an action.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,466 ✭✭✭Wolf359f


    The LAPD are doing exactly that. Look at any footage and you'll see it's the state law enforcement confronting the protestors.

    Trump was far too quick to deploy the National Guard and has only inflamed the situation.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 23,290 ✭✭✭✭extra gravy


    The gullible cult members crying about "riots" because they lap up every lie the Felon and his goons tell them 😂 A few burnt cars is about the height of it according to the people who actually live there. There's been more trouble after the odd baseball game.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,298 ✭✭✭✭My name is URL


    I was gonna say that has to be AI, yet here we are

    Holy ****



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,116 ✭✭✭✭Frank Bullitt


    I wish I shared your optimism, but the way I see it there is no way on earth he will do this.

    He will have completed a second term. No person can sit for 3 terms, he will be 82 pushing 83 by then. If he can even bathe himself by then I will be impressed.

    So, to repeat, there is no legal way he can run again. If they open it up to 3 terms, I hope Obama runs again.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,333 ✭✭✭✭kippy


    With the greatest of respect, this guy is long past having a decent bone in his body.

    If you were to timeline just the past 20 weeks you have controversy after controversy, after lie after pure and outright bullshit but none of it appears to hang around more than a week. The news cycle has it all moved into the last with trumps administration moving onto the next bat **** crazy item.

    You've got to remember, as many have already said here, a significant percentage of the population knew exactly what they were getting in voting this guy in. The news cycle seems to bury whatever story was there in the previous few days, replaced by whatever they want in the narrative.

    The only way this is heading is towards some form of civil war(in my opinion), whether it will go that far is anyone's guess but when you've got to keep moving on the news cycle with more and more off the wall stuff, all bets are off.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,116 ✭✭✭✭Frank Bullitt


    Orwell was right "The party told you to reject the evidence of your eyes and your ears. It was their final, most essential command".

    If you are quoting Orwell to prove that Trump is right, you are really, really doing it wrong, my friend.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,842 ✭✭✭eightieschewbaccy


    I've read plenty of Orwell in my time and not just 1984, he would absolutely loath Trump. Do you really think the writer of 1984 would be a fan of a federal government that cuts back on rights, targets the free press and supports book bannings etc? Next thing you'll be claiming James Connolly would have been a fan.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,176 ✭✭✭✭everlast75


    "Newsom is weak"

    Said by posters on here who think Kyle Rittenhouse is an alpha male lol

    Elect a clown... Expect a circus



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,298 ✭✭✭✭My name is URL


    I meant decency in the human sense, not the Trumpian one.

    I think the definition of what is decent has changed. I think what people see as decent, honourable or respectable has shifted significantly



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,256 ✭✭✭amandstu


    You don't think they will just cancel the elections?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,860 ✭✭✭✭fullstop


    But…but…250 years, checks and balances…he hasn’t stabbed anyone through the heart with an ice-pick, let me know when the whole country has imploded, etc., etc.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,466 ✭✭✭Wolf359f


    If somehow they do, it means the house would choose the president and the Senate would choose the VP. If they can't agree by inauguration day, the speaker of the house takes over until the houses finally decide.

    So if that's what they are planning, they will need to have it all in place before the midterms Incase they loose the house.



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