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Donald Trump the Megathread part II - Mod Warning added to OP 10/1/26

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,386 ✭✭✭✭billyhead




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,670 ✭✭✭valoren


    Feels like testing the waters in terms of deploying the National Guard ad hoc. If there is no repercussions like getting sued by California then Trump would effectively have a militia to use with no kick back for literally anything he deems a threat. If only there were any examples from HiSStory for that tact.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 15,301 ✭✭✭✭Igotadose


    Question was reliable, not 'online.' It'll be online if it exists (so far doesn't seem to. Even the GOP are posting 10 year old images)



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 22,142 ✭✭✭✭kneemos


    Started off as a peaceful protest until the authorities went batshit. Mayhem breeds criminality.

    I'd put the chaos entirely on trump and the heavy handed response.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,984 ✭✭✭✭A Dub in Glasgo




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  • Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Technology & Internet Moderators Posts: 97,257 Mod ✭✭✭✭Capt'n Midnight


    Amazon have problems recruiting in some localities because they've gone through so many staff that anyone who would work for them for those low low wages already has and won't be going back.

    Musk is having similar problems with specialised engineers.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 26,129 ✭✭✭✭Timberrrrrrrr


    If they spit, we will hit

    Yes, that's a quote from the president of the USA

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,882 ✭✭✭✭castletownman


    I bet the narcissist thinks his moniker for Newsome is hilarious, and his entourage lap it up.

    So effed up he can call a public representative 'scum' and not be called out for it.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 30,973 ✭✭✭✭looksee


    Some looting was reported, but looking at the streets today there is debris - mostly rubber bullets and canisters - there was not really the level of damage to the area that would justify Trump making a decision, over the heads of the local state authorities, to send in the National Guard. Figures of between 300 and 800 protesters were reported, even at the high end not enough to warrent the heavy response.

    I did see video of 3 mounted police and several on foot beating up an individual who was lying in the road, he tried to get up and was knocked down again, though no-one seemed to be trying to arrest him. Two journalists were hit by rubber bullets.

    Trump is sitting 3000 miles away stirring up hate and fomenting violence, just to distract from his own activities and to keep up his personal spite attacks on Newsome and others. Previous presidents successfully removed illegal immigrants from the country with no trouble or fuss, Trump as usual is ego-tripping and making a mess of it.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 15,301 ✭✭✭✭Igotadose


    In case one is unfamiliar with the rules of deploying the national guard, here's a helpful reminder from 2020:

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 23,464 ✭✭✭✭extra gravy


    California AG announces lawsuit challenging the mobilisation of the National Guard. How long before TACO?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,617 ✭✭✭✭My name is URL


    How can any self respecting 'man' of service not only take this guy seriously, but publicly defend him and his bullshit?

    The guy is spending at least 50 million dollars on a military parade outside his home, while slashing the meagre benefits of disabled war veterans.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,558 ✭✭✭✭Frank Bullitt


    These people are insurrectionists, but the January 6th group…nope.



  • Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Technology & Internet Moderators Posts: 97,257 Mod ✭✭✭✭Capt'n Midnight


    To get a pardon you have to accept the guilty plea. So can't sue on those grounds.

    Then again if the government capitulate then the Proud Boys will have a pile of cash to prepare for the next time Trump needs them.

    And it provides another useful distraction.



  • Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Technology & Internet Moderators Posts: 97,257 Mod ✭✭✭✭Capt'n Midnight


    Of course you can't manufacture bananas.

    Well not anymore.

    We used to make them here. But then it went all the way to the High Court because Fyffes were claiming manufacturing relief under section 443(21) TCA 1997 for ripening them. A nice tax dodge while it lasted.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 30,973 ✭✭✭✭looksee


    Trump has apparently mobilised 500 marines into LA. https://www.bbc.com/news/live/cvg7vxx888kt

    Its at timestamp 21.10 down the page.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,825 ✭✭✭Wolf359f


    The administration trying to normalize having the National Guard and US Marines policing cities. He'll probably deploy them on college campuses next if there's any anti-war protests or god forbid an anti-Trump protest.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 17,330 ✭✭✭✭MisterAnarchy


    You think the US, arguably the Worlds greatest superpower is a third world country ?

    I seem to recall saying that Ireland was a third world country in relation to the US infrastructure wise and was jumped on.

    Odd.

    I'm delighted Trump is sending in troops to do what needs to be done, the Democrats have left cities burn all over the US for years.

    In fact they have aided and abetted it.

    California is willfully ignoring immigration laws that govern the entire land.

    Enough is enough.



  • Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Technology & Internet Moderators Posts: 97,257 Mod ✭✭✭✭Capt'n Midnight


    There's something much faster than joining the EU and possibly harder to explain to The Donald.

    CBC have been an associate member of the EBU since 1950 and have participated in the Eurovision Young Dancers contest in the past. It's the Australia route. ( Canadian Broadcasting Corporation that is. )



  • Subscribers, Paid Member Posts: 44,574 ✭✭✭✭sydthebeat


    Be careful, your fascism is showing.

    If you are happy that authoritarian means are used to bypass the rule of law then that says loads about you



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,617 ✭✭✭✭My name is URL


    A man that once ran 'sexiest child' competitions is doing all of this. People are defending him… , others just care about tariffs.

    There's no coming back from this from a decency point of view



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,088 ✭✭✭✭aloyisious


    My advice to any military officer who is given a mobilisation order is to produce a notebook and insist that it be written in the book, timed, dated and signed by the person issuing the order. If there is a refusal to provide the request, that is grounds enough to inform the person issuing the order that the refusal is tantamount to an admission that the order is unlawful and contrary to military law, and an offence which must be reported as such to the MP's, if not JAG. ABC is the best policy. It's better to be called a pain in the ass than fall for a false order.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,008 ✭✭✭RickBlaine


    UK journalist Ian Dunt posted something on Friday that I've been thinking about, especially as I follow US politics quite a lot. He wrote it in response to the Trump / Musk fall out but it really can be applied to anything Trump and his cruel, moronic, and sycophantic administration does:

    "I'm so mortified by the emotional and psychological load these people weigh on us. A whole world watching this and it's just… crap. Utter crap. An idiot boy on ketamine calling people a paedophile. A man who cannot write without reverting to capslocks, who cannot speak without lying. It's all just so pitiful and embarrassing. The fact that we have to pay attention embarrasses me. The fact any of this is in any way relevant embarrasses me."



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,088 ✭✭✭✭aloyisious


    I'd never have thought of the Democrats as Anarchists burning down cities all over the US for years.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 17,330 ✭✭✭✭MisterAnarchy


    Its not fascism asking for law and order to be kept.

    California is willfully ignoring immigration laws that govern the entire land.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,984 ✭✭✭✭A Dub in Glasgo




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,351 ✭✭✭eightieschewbaccy


    Given the fact the administration has been engaging in illegal deportations, I can understand why individual states aren't very trusting of them. The President and his cronies are wildly ignoring the laws that govern the land but you're fine with that.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 848 ✭✭✭technocrat


    I suspect you’ve never been to the states going by your comments.

    Infrastructure over there is 3rd world compared to most European countries.

    Crumbling rusting subways same with critical bridges and this is in New York the country’s richest city!



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,825 ✭✭✭Wolf359f


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    I assume under normal circumstances, when the governor requests the Nation Guard they help them with food and accommodation? I'm guessing they can only use federal facilities unless the governor assigns the state digs?



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,812 ✭✭✭✭briany


    There is a legal and moral argument to deport illegal migrants who have been involved in crime, particularly serious crime. Not so much of a moral argument to uproot illegal migrants who are working low paid jobs that help keep the economy running, who have put down roots and are involved in their communities. You're not only affecting their lives when you do that, you're messing with whole interconnected communities. At that point, you've only got the law argument, but you're really not hearing the mood music.

    As ever, when Trump supporters want to be left alone, it's all about states' autonomy then, but when it's something they want to mess with, the federal government cannot be big enough.



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