Kilkenny GAA Thread

Jesus. That's sobering looking at that. It hadn't dawned on me that the team was still effectively the same.

Any player worthy of a look has been given a chance. If Eoin Cody and Tom Phelan were available that would be the very best we have. We have gone through a very lean time in underage and I think this years minors might be a concrete sign things are getting better on that front, so patience required. Blanchfield's form has dipped whether at 5 or 6. Taking too much out of the ball and like scruff's puckouts ,delivery too late. I am sure his form will pick up , Tommy Walsh had a similar dip but is back in form and deserves to start IMO. The current management have to make do with the players they have, I for one don' t see any better. No point spitting out the dummy.

Limerick have only 4 changes for the Coke game this weekend since the final in 2022, albeit that was a winning team.

The thing for Lyng is he hasn’t unearthed any game changing forwards, they were all there under Brian Cody already.

Cody was always able to unearth a forward who could change a game.

They might have got some time anywhere from 10 to 30 mins. That's about the size of it. How can players develop if they get a couple of minutes. Where are the players gone from our last good bunch which lost a minor all Ireland to an excellent Galway team. Limerick have gotten at least 6 players if not more from the losing u20 team because time was given to them. Where are the players from the our U20 team?

Those minor players you talk about developing I hope Derek Lyng is well gone or the same will happen them as happened previous players

I can't understand how you can be happy with young players getting very little time and then it's the players fault. They are not up to it. It's always seems to be the players not good enough the players not up to it

What about the manager and his team not good enough

What is Cody's injury?

He was excellent against Galway last time if I recall correctly

It's from here on in is where the season will be judged. If it's a defeat Sunday and tipp beat us management will be under pressure. Not from the yes men at county board but kk supporters. This will be a different ball game to the the match in the park earlier in the year. Couple of newer lads like cooney give them strength in attack. He went to town on Tommy a few years ago.conor whelan is playing a different game now out foraging and scoring less.i think we can get at their half back line if we set up right and we should have the engines in midfield.Cathal mannion will have to be man marked whoever they have ear marked. Teams have went to town by going down the middle. Unfortunately there's just no presence in this position and it has being a big problem the last few years. This was their homework the last few years and they've only flirted with lads at 6. Why not select their man and give him the league and let him work it out. I remember John Conlon the first day at 6 not many thought he would be as good as he was. Gavin Lee had a few hiary moments but management have backed him. There's talk mcanssey and blanchfield could start so that will be interesting. Hogan is a useful sub who's hurling well and good to see Harry back.

I'd love to know what match the stat team do be watching when every puckout is lost. It's hard to believe after all the years there's no improvement in the puckouts. We need forchanges men to come to the boil Sunday Billy,mossy and donnelly. He will have the pencil sharpened for Sunday evening no doubt

Best of luck to Brian dowling he has done a wonderful job with kildare started by herity. Will pj Kenny be onto Brian for the vacant u20 job? Tom mullallys time in cw seems to be over he has brought them as far as he could. Pj will be on the phone to these lads sooner rather than later before they are snapped up. What way is progress coming along in the dump? Hear Barry hickey giving out about cost. The center of excellence is 20 years over due. Why don't they go after the sponsors or get more sponsors.no point giving out about that now.Fenagh below in carlow is better than the dump. They've sat on their holes for 10 years and the results back it up. Reappointed managers failure after failure because it suited them.we talk about the minor team will be lucky to get them to u20 et alone senior. Just not able to bring lads through. Drennan wouldn't make the loughlins team. Shocking lazy anyway. Denis Walsh another great prospect a few years ago went off the scene with injuries and things. You could list off a load of lads that looked good at minor or even u20 and especially in kk they just can't make the breakthrough. I did suggest looking for the mid 20 year old like molly,donnelly,Murphy and Tom phelan a few years ago. Try get a few years out of them instead of putting 4 or 5 into younger lad.

If Deegan is playing then he hasn't picked the best team available to him, simple as that.

Not for me to comment on whether he's right or wrong but he's definitely from Dunnamaggin anyway

Lot of posts giving out about all these young players being dropped, one thing they all seem to have in common is that they are well able to hurl, they just find the step up in physicality too much, and seem a bit soft.

All the great young players that won underage all Irelands back in the mid noughties were absolutely exceptional in the air and very physical. To name a few, JJ, Tommy, TJ, Riche Hogan, Jackie, Eoin Larkin, Richie Power, John Dalton, John Tennyson and others like Austin Murphy, Pat Hartley, Paddy Hogan, Sean Cummins, Eoin Guinan who never really made an impact senior and a hell of a lot more were exceptional in the air and to win there own ball, that was the backbone to Cody's success. The young players now shy away from physicality, that is why i am impressed with Marty Murphy u20. The u20 last week was terrible to look at, especially the half back line who were completely dominated physically and in the air, not a trait associated with Kilkenny. We need to increase physicality at all levels

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Your on the other hand must be Derek Lyng uncle or county board because as soon as someone says a bad word about poor Derek You're on like a shot

Sorry to disappoint you but I'm neither just a supporter who feels management not good enough but if win the All Ireland I will apologise

Would agree 100% with that you could list off loads of club players taking frees and running up plenty of scores from play that have been on in or around the panel the last few years but a lot of them need to handed possession for a score can’t win the dirty ball or mix it physically when they try make the step up to inter county level which is a lot bigger step now than it used to be which has to be said

They need the perfect type of ball delivered in every time or they can’t win it and we aren’t consistent at giving our forwards good ball on a regular basis

Just to be clear I have never once criticised players

I fully support all our players

It's our management team I think are not up to the job

But if we win the all ireland I will apologise to all on here I will then have been wrong

Time will tell

Sure we know the county board dropped the ball with regard to development for years, and that's the main reason we are where we are with our underage drought. You only have to look at the calibre of people at the top of Botd na NÓg to see where the incompetence is and has been. The Co Boatd itself is generally an old boys club, when competent and forward thinking business people are required. The penny has dropped re development over the last couple of years and while things are still far from ideal, they're certainly improving.

We are where we are, but we still need to show a bit of loyalty and support our teams, otherwise the apathy and negativity that's there at the minute will become a self fulfilling prophecy, and we'll fall off the face of the earth in terms of real competitiveness. We have 5 Leinsters in a row, 2 All Ireland final appearances in 3 years, and we threw away that semi last year against the eventual champions. We had a decent minor team last year, a very good one this year, and a decent 20 team the last 2 years. We're not a million miles away. The shite talk and negativity here would give you ire.