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career change is it worth taking the chance

  • 06-06-2025 11:19AM
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    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4


    Im 50, Ive worked as a software engineer for 30 yrs, but this work does not come naturally to me.
    I work for a multinational with higher than average salary, paid holidays, pension contribution, hybrid working.
    I don't get any satisfaction/ contentment from the work because I never know from day to day what I will be working on, so I'm always worried/stressed if I will understand the problem and be able to provide a solution. And software development and documentation is so opinionated and vague, this is the part I hate most. I hate going to work now because I'm thinking am I going to spend the rest of my working days hating what I do.

    My real passion and talent has always been for hands on work, I just drifted along going to college and ended up by luck in a secure office job.
    I don't have an apprentice qualification but Im very skilled and experienced at paving, block laying, tiling, carpentry etc.
    Through the years I've renovated and extended two old houses, bring both up to an A rating and complying with all building regulations.
    Ive renovated my own house doing 90% of the work myself and because of this I only have a small loan outstanding.

    Id love to have my own business where I am using my skills to earn a living, but at 50 years of age am I mad to leave the cozy office job with a guaranteed payment every month ? I prefer manual work but obviously there the risks of things like back injury as I get older and also some of these jobs like paving are very seasonal and not fun when its lashing rain.

    Also what would be the best trade to work at considering I can work at any of the above and much more?
    What about a combination of all my skills?

    Thanks



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 26,614 ✭✭✭✭Mrs OBumble


    Yes, you'd be mad to consider it.

    You won't get an apprenticeship at your age, so the most work you'd get is as a labourer for someone qualified. I think you hate that, and get very little chance to do the bits you like. There will also be lots of lads younger, fitter and more eager.

    Try to get reduced hours in the day job, and find some volunteer work with your hands.

    Post edited by Mrs OBumble on


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,354 ✭✭✭enricoh


    Nuts to leave, if they were doing a round of redundancies maybe grab that.

    Construction very cyclical n has been on a good run the last 10 years , only government spending keeping it going now. Had a good operator ringing me to see if ready for him a couple of months ago. A year or 2 ago he'd be booked up for 6-8 months. Most lads in the game I know at 60 are waiting for hip, knees or both!



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 226 ✭✭One_More_Mile


    At 50 if you start loading the pension the end is in sight work wise. Just make sure your building the pension figure and you can probably early retire in a few years and just do handy things to keep yourself going. Don't leave a high paying job on a whim



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4 SunshineAndShowers


    Luckily my pension contribution is already sufficient from 30 yrs contributions(assuming the pension fund keeps performing well) but I can't get it until I'm 65. Sorry I don't understand what you mean by early retire? For example If I was allowed by my employer to early retire at 55 I wouldn't get pension payments until 65, or am I missing something?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,065 ✭✭✭✭fits


    yes. Get thee to a financial planner in the first instance to see if you can make a plan to retire early and or move to a part time role.

    Physical labour is hard on the body.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,047 ✭✭✭✭volchitsa


    At your age heavy physical work is a risk, and possibly even more so for someone who's spent years behind a desk. So I'd expect an employer to hesitate about taking you on for anything other than occasional labouring.

    The only thing I can think of for you is to combine your skills on your own project, for instance by renovating a house and selling it on? It sounds like a huge undertaking but maybe you could negotiate 6 months off from your job to give it a go, and then go back if it didn't work out?

    I understand your point about IT as you get older. My husband was very similar. It's often a job for younger people.But TBH I think the posters telling you to load up your pension might be right. As you get older your physical condition is no longer what it was either, and employers want someone who'll work fast. And that's how people get injured.

    ”I enjoy cigars, whisky and facing down totalitarians, so am I really Winston Churchill?” (JK Rowling)



  • Moderators, Business & Finance Moderators Posts: 10,907 Mod ✭✭✭✭Jim2007


    There are a lot of things to unpack here…

    First of all there is your mental state and lack of skills to deal with it. Every job has stress and anxiety, it just comes in different forms, so learning mechanisms to deal with it is critical to life experience. In the construction industry there is like every other job, the pressures of doing a good job, making sure there are not health and safety issues with your work etc, then there is the work pressures of a cycle industry and of course all the work involved in running your own business - accounting, chasing down debts etc…. So regardless of any other decisions you make I think you need to take the time to develop mechanisms to deal with stress and possibly get some coaching on it.

    As regards a second career, the reality is that there are lots of people who are good at DIY, but that is very different to having the necessary qualifications and experience to deliver work to a standard that it can be signed off on as completed. So a large chunk of your time is going to have to be spent on getting the qualifications and skills before you can start to command the big pay cheques…

    Running a business, even a one person show can be stressful, even when things are going right. You have to social network, advertise, apply for…. work, you have to do all the accounting, get the required business certications etc… and all on top of your normal day's work. Then when things go pear shaped, you have to chase down non payers, deal with complaints, deal with poor quality work that needs to be addressed, business disputes etc… And of course make a decent profit in the process.

    While I agree that spending a large part of every week doing something you don't enjoy is a great situation, I'm not sure the alternative is such a great option either because you are talking about taking on at least two roles.

    Early retirement means living on less money. Either you get an early pension at a very reduced rate or you have to live on savings until you reach normal retiring age. Most pension schemes are designed in such away that a major chunk of the contributions are paid in later years, so loosing the last 10 years has a big impact. You'd need to discuss this carefully with a financial advisor before making a decision like this.

    I retired at 55 and am living of savings until I hit 65. But that was always the plan and like most people involved in my area we had planned accordingly from about the age of 25. I still have a few consulting contracts remaining, manage some money etc… but it only takes up about two days a week and often not even that.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 627 ✭✭✭eastie17


    can you afford to leave it based on any dependents or other commitments you have?

    If you can then do, life is too short to be unhappy and being of a similar age to yourself we know that there’s never a guarantee of decades being left.


    there’s loads of work in house retrofitting and not enough people to do it. SEAI we’re looking for people recently. That’s going to be an ongoing market for the next 20 years and isn’t heavy construction

    I’d do it if I could but don’t have the skills



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 92 ✭✭ihateboards


    Solution for the stress = (but not the lack of satisfaction) becoming proficient in using AI coding tools. Used properly it should eliminate stress, subject to your organisation's AI policy if one exists.

    Once the stress is eliminated reassess your desire to work with your hands. If you do manage to cap the work stress you might be able to ramp up DIY projects at home and for family friends which might scratch that itch and you'll learn more about what it feels like to work with your hands more.

    Post edited by ihateboards on


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 575 ✭✭✭sbs2010


    I've heard it say you can change company or change job area but very hard to change both at same time.

    Are there other business areas in your current company that you could move into? Get away from the software stuff.

    if you made a move like that the dissatisfaction would hopefully be gone and you could still keep an eye out for opportunities in the manual work field.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 175 ✭✭dingdangdoo22


    what about BER assessor or health and safety? springboard have a H&S course, crying out for H&S people apparently



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,506 ✭✭✭Fighting Tao


    Reading the replies, I get the impression (maybe incorrectly) that some people fear change and prefer to slightly alter the existing situation.

    Having left my IT job of almost 30 years within the last year, and set up a company in a completely unrelated field. I say go do what you want in life. Life is too short to be miserable at work. We become institutionalised and fear change. We think we can’t do something due to imaginary limits and fear. You will have busy times and quiet times and so it takes a bit of getting used to no having that monthly lodgement into your bank. However, it will feel far more rewarding than your current work life. You will learn and grow as you figure out things on your own.

    Believe in yourself and find happiness.

    Post edited by Fighting Tao on


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 26,614 ✭✭✭✭Mrs OBumble


    I don't fear change: my current day-job involves implementing it (no change = no need for me!), and since being made redundant 10 years ago, I've worked for 6 different companies on a range to temp contracts.

    But I do fear being 50-something and unemployed: I never believed how much of an issue it was, until I got there myself. It's not so much of an issue for someone who has specialist skills that they're happy to keep using. But for anyone who is more generalist, or looking to get in at a lower level, there's a lot of prejudice. As well as realities of fitness, aging knees, etc.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,506 ✭✭✭Fighting Tao


    I think you misunderstood what I meant by change. Implementing change in a workplace is very different to a person changing their career.

    I was very specialist in my previous job. However, like most people in IT, they build up other skills that they don’t even realise they have. Changing career is always going to be a risk, and it’s up to the OP whether that risk is better than not being happy for the rest of their working life (15 or more years). We don’t know the OP’s financial situation, but they have most likely thought about it before posting. It is always possible to go back to a role in IT if the new career isn’t as expected, or doesn’t work out.

    The fact that they are thinking of changing career speaks volumes. I’ve been there, and once the thoughts are there and reaching out for others opinions has started it is a sign that the decision has probably already been made, and it is impacting their current role as they are in the process of mentally checking out. Staying in the current job, and possibly in IT won’t be good for mental health either. Encouragement with realism is a good thing, rather than reinforcing any niggling fears that are hanging around.




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,506 ✭✭✭Fighting Tao


    OP, one other thing you could do is request a career break of up to 2 years. They may say no, but there is nothing to lose. It is usually possible to return from a career break early if wanted.



  • Moderators, Business & Finance Moderators Posts: 10,907 Mod ✭✭✭✭Jim2007


    You are talking about an office worker in his 50s starting to do a very physical job at a junior level at stage when most people in that position are looking to reduce the physical effort or may already have been debilitated by it…. You don't seem to appreciate the difference between that and they typical type of career switch.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,506 ✭✭✭Fighting Tao


    Most people is obviously not the OP. I’m nearing 50 and doing a manual job now. Plenty of lifting, down on hunkers and knees. Many of us are well able for it.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 28 Mirafiori


    But is it not just a question of how the OP is at 50, but also how they will be at 55, 60 and up to 65 when their current pension kicks in?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,506 ✭✭✭Fighting Tao


    The OP has said they are thinking of changing career to a manual one. They know best what condition their body is in, and is aware that damage could occur over the next 15 years. If their body is as bad as people seem to think, then they probably wouldn’t consider changing career to a manual one. Also, having a sedentary job is potentially worse for the body as we are not designed to sit at a desk for hours on end. We don’t know their financial situation either. I’d be fairly certain that the OP has considered their future as it’s one of the things people do when thinking about changing career.

    OP, I’m still in the go for it camp. Better to try rather than forever regretting.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 981 ✭✭✭homewardbound11


    I’d be of the opinion to go for it but with a few changes .

    Spend the next 2 years planning your strategy whilst doing the current job . Set up a business plan and plan and also for employing staff to do the work when you can’t do it .
    Can you afford to live with low/ little or no income for long periods . The only advantage you have and it is a little one is that you might have enough funds built up to outlast this .



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,708 ✭✭✭Bogey Lowenstein
    That must be Nigel with the brie...


    It has been said already but buying old houses and doing them up to sell on might be good for you with your skills OP. Ideally you will find somebody to come in with you and lighten the load.

    Look at Homes Under The Hammer and you will see plenty of people up in years who are doing it.

    If this is your dream then go for it before you get any older.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,046 ✭✭✭yagan


    My 2 cents for having worked in a very physical job for decades is we start disappearing off sites after 50 years of age. I'm lucky in that I can afford to step back, but I wouldn't recommend anyone try to transition from a mostly sedentary work place into a high activity environment after 40.

    A career break for a year or two might just help put things in perspective, learn some craft skills, maybe enough to start a bespoke business that can be transitioned to as your office career winds down.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 308 ✭✭jack747


    This is interesting on the H&S. What sort of places/industries/companies are looking for H&S people?

    I'm also looking for a slight career change now. I am based in cork and my experience is in Risk/Compliance in Financial Services.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,710 ✭✭✭zweton




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