Immigration and Ireland - MEGATHREAD *Mod Note Added 14/08/25*

These deportations are little more than the optics of a PR stunt by the government to molify the proles and make it look like they're 'doing someting'.

In 5 months the government have managed to organize 3 flights to deport 106 illegals.

IPS arrivals in 2024: 18,651 About 51 people a day.

2,403 deportation orders were signed in 2024, if I were hitting 4% of my targets in my job, I doubt the boss would be patting me on the back.

So our very effective gobernment has managed to deport less than two days worth of arrivals, after probably years of back and forth in the courts, not exactly a disincentive to the spoofers.

What I find interesting is that the people who are so critical of RTE reporting are now using RTE reporting because it suits their agenda. Their lack of self awareness is, as ever, staggering. Double standards are their modus operandi.

Mod Edit: Warning issued for being a dick, other posters are not the thread topic

No he is not on video saying that.

So the question has to be asked did you even watch a video before getting annoyed about the content of the video?

He called Irish people "never homogenous".

Even gript dont accuse him of using mongrel

https://gript.ie/martin-defends-view-that-irish-were-never-homogenous-2/

Constant disinformation in this thread is tiring

There are 2 different but similar stories here. One is a resurfaced video from 2021 of Martin saying the Irish were never homogeneous, and a second relating to an Irish Times report on an upcoming rte programme with a tcd professor and people associated with the programme saying "We Irish were never homogeneous. Always hybrids, always mongrels"

€325k to deport 35 people or over €9k per person, for a one way flight!

Were the OPW involved?

Yeah but the reason they'll save millions is because they're paying silly money to house them.

I'm not saying we need a DOGE style way of cutting costs but these figures are ridiculous

Can you link the Irish Times article please?

what about the name Jane Ohlmeyer?

It's not a conspiracy at this point. Overall RTE's bias is plain to see. It doesn't mean they don't ever release articles from the other viewpoints.

Part of the problem is that some views on RTE and the media generally here seem to verge on conspiracy theory. There are weaknesses in media anywhere and whatever weakness one perceives to be inherent in State-owned media also has to be balanced against weaknesses in privately owned media (ie, you report what sells to your target audience). While some might be frustrated by what they perceive to be a lack of or a slowness of coverage also needs to be weighed against what we see on the likes of Twitter — where stories become drowned in disinformation and information is shared instantly with little verification, little context and often seemingly with obvious intent.

I'm not expert on press freedom but I note that Ireland is ranked by Reporters Without Borders in the top 10 countries in the world by freedom of press. Not to say our press is perfect, or impervious to bias and influence, but it does seem like the criticism on here is pretty overcooked often.

Having a free press is of course hugely important. But having a well functioning free press is even better and I don't think the press has functioned very well for nearly 20 years in most countries. Basically social media has destroyed it, huge lay offs, pay cuts, a smaller number of poorly motivated journalists.

The lack of quality shows in some of the coverage of immigration for sure, and in many other areas also.

It is a disaster for society, and has led to a number of political problems across the free world.

In another era Ireland would have had a far better discussion of immigration. The nonsense a Taoiseach spoke about St Patrick being an undocumented immigrant would have made him a figure of ridicule, for example. Roderic O'Gorman effectively advertising Ireland as a haven for asylum seekers would also have been interrogated properly. And the idea that immigration has not driven the housing crisis would have been quickly demolished.

Can't use normal carriers,it needs huge amount of security,IIRC a deportation on a scheduled flight had to be abandoned after the other passengers harassed the gardai accompanying the deportees.

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