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Donald Trump the Megathread part II - Mod Warning added to OP 10/1/26

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 44,173 ✭✭✭✭ancapailldorcha


    The flaw in the narrative is that, and I hope everyone can agree on this, a vote for Trump was a vote for radical change. A similar thing happened in the UK in 2016. I think the reasons behind both are very, very similar.

    From this side of the Atlantic, it looks like anyone in the poorest socioeconomic strata of US society live miserably, purely in material terms of course. Healthcare is the most expensive in the world, the societal safety net is almost non-existent and anyone who might call this out is a tiny minority in a corporate oligarchy that likes things just the way they are.

    The foreigner residing among you must be treated as your native-born. Love them as yourself, for you were foreigners in Egypt. I am the LORD your God.

    Leviticus 19:34



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 32,123 ✭✭✭✭Wanderer78


    links have been made to conspiracy based thinking and pro longed mental health issues, in particular pro longed anxiety issues, i have an anti-vax/conspiracy relative, they more then likely have undiasgnosed adhd, and have self medicated with drugs the majority of their adult life, its now impossible to have a coherent conversation with them without entering the world of conspiracy



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,130 ✭✭✭uptherebels


    not trump supporters don't usually post approving of statements, they just avoid criticising .



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,608 ✭✭✭thereiver


    70 per cent of Americans rely on Medicare to get medical insurance and medical care working people and retired people army police veterans Trump says he won't cut medicare tte new bill medicare by 800 billion most rural hospitals will have to close down planned Parenthood this bill attacks the working class voters who voted for trump Many people choose their jobs based on does this give my health insurance coverage Many women choose not to have children as they lose medical insurance if they stop.working In 5 to 10 years America will face a crisis as millions of boomers retire. Will thier be hospitals and nurse to take care of millions of older people. Who will pay for the cost of medical care as the no of young workers declines in 2035 Some people are leaving America to retire in Europe where it's cheaper to get general medical care



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 12,365 ✭✭✭✭fullstop


    I’ve no idea where your graph in the previous post is from, so difficult to say if it’s true or not. The CDC’s own website has graphs showing a spike in measles cases and deaths in the US this year compared to the last 2 years.
    You can cherry-pick specific data periods to suit any argument, but what can’t be argued is that this clown has said that no vaccine is safe and effective, vaccines cause autism, contain aborted fetus, etc., etc., etc., so they are absolutely not unrelated.
    Coming out to say people should take the MMR vaccine after what he previously said is just more flooding the zone with ****.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,608 ✭✭✭thereiver


    Some one needs to draw a cartoon on one side a falling dollar on the other side a figure or a statue crushed under the heavy weight of debt

    At the base the words

    Look on his works ye mighty and despair

    How do you know rfk Jr is talking rubbish

    His lips are moving



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,080 ✭✭✭Escapees


    As another poster has recently pointed out, your posts are very difficult to read and interpret. While we're all prone to typos and punctuation issues with our posts, it can be helpful to run the text of posts through a spell/grammer checker before posting to fix a lot of the issues, as was already suggested.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 15,302 ✭✭✭✭Igotadose


    Reagan's fault. Messing with the fairness doctrine and the FCC gave rise to the rabbit-hole media like the Limbot and Glenn Beck. Murdoch found a way to monetize it, he didn't have great inroads into the US until he could shift the narrative in places like the NY Post and Fox.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 15,302 ✭✭✭✭Igotadose


    Explained this once before that MediCAID is the health insurance for poor and some disabled people. MediCARE is the one you get when you're 65+. The proposed $700bn cut is to MediCAID, with another $300bn cut to SNAP, which is food stamps (tbf, plenty of full time employed get SNAP, which irks the GOP no end, even though they're eligible.) The GOP could care less about poor people and their votes, but both parties are wary of annoying seniors who more than anything vote.

    MediCARE isn't under the knife directly, however automatic cuts kick in based on deficit level. That's particularly loathsome. If the deficit reaches $2.3Tn medicare is subject to a cut of around $500bn over 10 years, around $45bn/year

    https://democrats-budget.house.gov/news/press-releases/cbo-confirms-gop-budget-bill-triggers-medicare-cuts



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,608 ✭✭✭thereiver


    Ok thanks for the advice I think there were many newspapers and magazines that were conservative leaning before Murdoch started Fox news . I,m not supporting Murdoch but he saw a gap in the market and exploited it .Before Fox news most tv networks were either liberal or middle of the road so as to appeal to the general audience .



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,746 ✭✭✭20silkcut


    Ireland has a small well educated population . The critical mass of thick people does not exist here in sufficient quantity currently. That is not to say that we have don’t have a significant population of thickos. We most certainly do. But the demographic situation currently favours moderate politics. Ireland is the equivalent of one blue state in America. There are many states in America that are similar to Ireland in education and politics etc that voted against Trump and where politicians like Trump will never gain traction.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,094 ✭✭✭✭aloyisious


    It might help to explain him prancing about on stage with a chainsaw as an legitimate expression of what he intended to do to the federal pay-packet.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,814 ✭✭✭✭briany


    "It wasn't my fault. It was the methamphetamine! If you ask me, that stuff makes you do suspiciously Nazi-like salutes…"

    — Elon Musk.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,781 ✭✭✭Flaneur OBrien


    It's one reason we must never allow the education budget to be cut to the American (or British) level.

    If you don't keep educating people, you will get despots in power.



  • Site Banned Posts: 2,753 ✭✭✭thatsdaft


    His excuse before was that “checks and balances” would keep Trump in check

    And freedom of speech would always permit dissenting opposition

    Both have and are being bulldozed by Trump admin

    The list of deplorable Trump carry on is a mile long now



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 15,302 ✭✭✭✭Igotadose


    In the 2016 election, the surprise was he won the nomination despite not being even slightly qualifed. The media adored the clicks he brought, the GOP debates featured him not being there, just a box on a podium, yet the other candidates couldn't make inroads.

    So, the GOP voters, voted against 'business as usual' where someone like Christie or Jeb Bush might've been the nominee. A vote for Trump in the general election, however, wasn't for radical change imo. It was an anti-Hilary vote (easy to do given the demonisation that the GOP had subjected her to) and the typical 'vote for anything with an R after it's name.' Plus she was a bad candidate and underestimated Trump. He only got the plurality where it mattered in that election, the swing states.

    So, I guess I'm agreeing with the narrative applying in the primaries, but not in the general.



  • Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 17,544 Mod ✭✭✭✭Manic Moran


    Apologies. Here, they are citing CDC data.

    https://www.texastribune.org/2025/01/30/texas-measles-vaccinations-schools/

    I dispute little of what you say, the point I'm making is that the trend of reducing vaccinations started before his involvement in things, and the current measles outbreak is the natural result of that trend. No reason you can't attack his position, but the reality is that the idiots who won't vaccinate their kids managed to come to that conclusion without him and are the actual cause. They came to that conclusion under Azar and Cochran, and I blame neither of those two secretaries for the idiocy either.



  • Moderators, Politics Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 17,324 Mod ✭✭✭✭Quin_Dub


    There is also a well documented connection between extreme religiosity and belief in conspiracy theories and acceptance of populist narratives.

    Particularly in the US versions of Churches that tend to be tied to single charismatic leaders.

    From an early age they are programmed to "believe what they are told" by the leader and their brains actually show evidence of under development in the areas involved in Critical thinking.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,157 ✭✭✭eire4


    To say that post is classic projection is to understate things quite a bit.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,157 ✭✭✭eire4


    What is so sadly true and grotesque about what you wrote there is that RFK will literally cause the deaths of many Americans who otherwise would not have died as a result of his crackpot nonsense. Not too mention the many who will get sick that otherwise would not have.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 326 ✭✭Aurelian


    Is it possible to be at once moderate and vicious?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 15,302 ✭✭✭✭Igotadose


    " the trend of reducing vaccinations started before his involvement in things"

    RFKJr has been involved in reducing vaccinations for years; in 2019 he helped make measles worse in Samoa.

    https://www.theguardian.com/world/2025/jan/31/samoas-prime-minister-criticises-rfk-jrs-vaccine-views-after-deadly-measles-outbreak

    So, no, he's been actively and surreptitiously hindering vaccination for years. He is pals with Andrew Wakefield who cooked up the whole vaccine/autism thing to make money for himself with his 'alternative' MMR vaccine. https://www.vice.com/en/article/heres-robert-f-kennedy-jr-explicitly-voicing-his-support-for-anti-vax-godfather-andrew-wakefield/

    All the redution in vaccination is due to the massive evil of RFK jr, the Children's Health Network, Wakefield and now newcomers like Prasad and Markary in place at the controls of the US health department. Gullible fools like the Mennonite parents of the first kid that died in West Texas make good suckers for that mob. As I recall, there was some study showing something lik 7 accounts providing all the anti-vaxx fodder on FB, I wonder if RuZZia helped that along.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 32,123 ✭✭✭✭Wanderer78


    this can be one of the same thing, its also common for many religious followers to struggle with anxiety issues.

    charismatic leaders tend to be highly narcissistic, including religious leaders, this can be an automatic magnet for such anxious followers, a leader that seems to know whats going on, has all the solutions……



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,489 ✭✭✭Patrick2010


    Trump might pardon P Diddy if he’s found guilty , what’s the point of courts, let Trump hear the case

    https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/diddy-pardon-trump-trial-conviction-b2761008.html



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,772 ✭✭✭Glencarraig


    She can only be leaving for the money cause everybody knows that Musk's nickname is "Plastic Mickey" !!!!!



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,781 ✭✭✭Flaneur OBrien


    Of course he will. The country is a joke at this stage.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,608 ✭✭✭thereiver


    I think they way trump works is they way the choose a job candidate is which person is very conservative who is popular in they state they started off in as a politician

    who is good at raising money or attracting donors

    who likes to appear on Fox news or joe Rogan and various extreme conservative podcasts .do they look good on tv . The result of this is the person who knows least about the area of expertise or is weirdo extremist who believes in conspiracy theorys gets the job So the person who is least capable with a mediocre intellect gets the job of manager of a government department .Being slightly racist or ignorant of how government works seems to be an advantage in getting a high profile job .

    Theres an item on sky news today. Government spending has gone up since Doge started cutting jobs from all federal agencys .



  • Moderators, Politics Moderators, Paid Member Posts: 44,894 Mod ✭✭✭✭Seth Brundle


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,814 ✭✭✭✭briany


    I'm sure there are a number of people he'd like to pardon. A few months ago, conservative pundit Ben Shapiro was talking about pardoning Derek Chauvin. I had thought Trump would consider this as well, although it's been pointed out that even if Trump pardoned him, he'd still serve a state-level sentence.

    Someone I fancy he'll consider a pardon for, if he does let Diddy off, is Ghislaine Maxwell. I remember when her arrest happened, a reporter asked Trump for comment and his words were - "I just wish her well, frankly…" That was as sitting president, talking about someone in the middle of a big sex trafficking case. 😮



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,456 ✭✭✭TinyMuffin


    musk got into a physical altercation with Bessent and miller yesterday. But who threw the punch?

    IMG_1407.jpeg


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