Russia-Ukraine War (continuing)

Be Brave Like Kherson, inbound for Shannon. Slava Ukraine

To counter the blatant Russian disinformation and anti EU muck spreading, here is the data from the evil EU

LNG comes into facilities in Netherlands, Belgium, Spain and enters network on one side, Ukraine transit is gone to zero now

Companies in Russian puppet countries like Hungary, Slovakia (that don’t have ports for obvious geographic reasons) purchase and consume it

And here is the EU plan to cut that to zero whether those couple like it or not

How's the bill going to realistically work? (assuming Graham doesn't backtrack on it)

The EU get's slapped with 500% tariffs because Hungary & Slovakia still imports Russian energy (obviously they are not the only ones) I mean FFS the US still trades with Russia. Are they going to tariff themselves?

I can't claim to be able to answer that accurately but it sounds to me like it would apply a 500% tariff on goods imported from countries that are proven to continue to trade with putin's terrorist state. That would I guess include China, North Korea, Iran and India as well as EU member states Hungary and Slovakia unless they took action to stop importing from and trading with putin's terrorist state.

I'd like to see the bill also include supply of goods to putin that can be used in attacking Ukraine like drones but I have not seen the text of the bill which is reported by a number of sources and apparently has support from both of the larger parties in the US government. The statement from Graham and another senator Blumenthal on a visit to Ukraine in relation to the bill also mention the use of frozen russian assets in supporting Ukraine and I would hope the EU and other allies of Ukraine would get behind this move to ramp up pressure on putin to stop attacking Ukraine.

I just seems like a way for the Trump administration to impose 500% tariffs (which would actually have a legal foundation vs the illegal liberation day ones) on pretty much all US imports from all countries. Basically all countries still have some trade with Russia.

Tariffs ain't gonna do jack ****. They need secondary sanctions. Sanction the likes of DJI selling drones to Russia. Think of it in a way of a Russia being a terrorist organisation (which they are in essence), so any company dealing with them get sanctioned to the hilt. It's not China (the government) selling drones to Russia nor the Irish government selling antennas to Russia, it's actual companies. Tariffs won't target specific companies, they are too broad and it doesn't prevent companies selling to intermediaries.

It just seems like a great sounding, but a bad bill.

A total ban on Chinese made goods….. you think that's doable? I mean the good aul USA had to fold with 145% tariffs on China after like a week. I know a 145% tariff on a 10c part maybe rough, but a total ban on all Chinese imports seems nuts.

What if the Chinese companies use the likes of the UK to sell on the goods, shall we ban all UK imports?

Just seems easier to sanction a commercial drone manufacturer so all they foreign assets are seized rather than igniting a global trade war like Trump has tried.

And China is not easily controlled and they are not helping Russia in so much as they are helping themselves.

something similar has been floated. The same could apply to NATO. Like minded nations eg France, Germany Poland ,Latvia, Canada, Uk, could form the equivalent , withdraw from NaTO membership, and those countries ‘not involved ‘ in the new setup could be free to apply, eg the US, Serbia, Hungry, Turkey.

‘The cage could be at least rattled ‘ in the above direction up to the next US presidential election and then proceed or otherwise from that point

Another mass casualty event for the orcs as a troop concentration in Kursk is hit by the Ukrainians.

Ukrainian channels on telegram are now reporting that Russian sources have released footage showing the use of the Chinese Low-Altitude Laser Defending System (LASS) to shoot down Ukrainian drones in the combat zone.

These appear to be the first documented visuals of the Chinese laser system in operational use in Ukraine. There's a video attached but it's on telegram and I'm not bothered searching twitter.

But yeah the EU should totally side with China because of Trump. He May bark the loudest but it's China who's the snake in the grass.

You want to discuss again that time China endured a century of humiliation and Russia grabbed a million square miles (that’s 4 to 5 Ukraines in area) of Chinese east Asia which it occupies to this day?

I hope the UK can respond by giving Ukraine their Dragon laser. Ukraine has developed and fielded a home grown laser system, but being honest, it seems way too weak and bit of a kludge - not remotely close to that Chinese system.

Russia's state duma defence chief Kartapolov comments on the possible outcome for Ukraine should they reject negotiations again.

Following the breakdown of talks in Istanbul 1.0 Putin's terms were later revised on June 14th 2024 and from the sound of it the the next conditions will be worse than what could be negotiated upon today.

Thank you friend for relaying the Kremlins latest shite.

It's good to know they're getting desperate!

Thank you for your continued provision of Russian state propaganda.