Tractor with no logbook?.

bassy · 29-05-2025 08:02PM #1

Hi all just wondering I know where there's a old tractor for sale,but there's no logbook for it as in with it.

My question is would it be possible to get a logbook for it?.

SupaCat95 · 29-05-2025 08:16PM

I would imagine if it was brought into the state there must be a log book. I am guessing this is something like a Massey 35 tractor that was bought under Marshall Aid after WW2. My uncle has one and it has a license plate though long fallen off. Providence might be problematic.

bassy · 29-05-2025 08:22PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123498106#Comment_123498106

yep its a massey,but a google search mentions a form you can fill it etc but im not sure how succwssful that might be.

surely once chassis numbers etc are given and other details you would like to think that might be all you need,anyone else have experience of similar?.

SupaCat95 · 29-05-2025 08:33PM

I would be wary of anyone who said there was no log book ever. That is stolen. IF it is the log book is lost then it is recoverable. A possible trip to the solicitor may be necessary to sign an affidavit to establish ownership. I think this is more of a legal issue than a farming one.

bassy · 29-05-2025 08:36PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123498165#Comment_123498165

oh its not stolen thats for sure,as the owner bought it with the intention of doing her up and then lost interest.he never said there was no logbook ever,but he bought it without the logbook and never really bothered doing much with it or getting a logbook etc

SupaCat95 · 29-05-2025 08:39PM

Ahhh yeah seen them before. The problems are poor paperwork and fathers passing farms to sons/nephew and not able to keep up with all the paperwork. It will take a bit of chasing down but those Masseys were built like tanks. A lot of them are over 100 years old and still running. It is possible. Best of luck.

tabby aspreme · 29-05-2025 08:43PM

Plenty of tractors are imported, never re-registered and eventually the log books are missing as lads don't want the hassle of re-registering, contact your local vintage club and they will tell you how to get a log book, production of MF 35's started in 1960 so it wasn't brought in under the marshall plan.

bassy · 29-05-2025 08:44PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123498192#Comment_123498192

hi there very much appreciate your input.

SupaCat95 · 29-05-2025 08:57PM

My uncles one was (this is oral history and nearly 80 years ago). The grandfather got his Massey under Marshall aid plan after the war. This tractor came and did have an Irish lisence plate. It is not my be my tractor and I dont have the exact maintenance history but it has been the same tractor with minor parts replacement (seat mud guards, roll bar) and a major crack in the main body that was welded and over hauled. It is going to take some major work. I will check with the uncle and get back to you.

bassy · 29-05-2025 09:02PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123498244#Comment_123498244

thanks very much appreciated………………………………………..

G-Man · 30-05-2025 11:15AM

Fairly common for tractors coming up for sale with no logbook. I think you can still insure with old reg or serial number. Contact local vintage to see how to go about it right way to get proper plates. Also chase up a bit what you do know about previous owners, people are very helpful and for few phone calls and a drive, someting might fall into your lap. For me it was not just the logbook, but original rusted doors and top link that had lasted longer in the shed than the cheaply made replacements.

Would one of those full rerports on cartell.ie give name of last registered owner and perhaps you could reach out. If you really wanted, I imagine a solr could find that too.

30-05-2025 07:37PM

Cartell won't give any owner details.

Sacrolyte · 01-06-2025 06:16PM

had an old tractor once that was scrap and was selling. Lad was humming and hawing over giving me 150 for it but had no bother give 200 for the log book.

_Brian · 02-06-2025 08:31AM

Can be a pain in the hoop.

Bought a tractor last year.
signed the logbook as is the thing, took some photos of it.
Logbook never came, lad says he posted it but nothing. I sent him form to have logbook replaced but now he’s stopped answering me.

like **** sake just do the thing and be done with it.

I was talking to the tax office, there’s a form but it entails bringing the tractor for inspection and a commissioner for oaths signing the form too. Then he has to option to block the transfer and keep the logbook anyway.

I feel like just buying a tax book for it. Chances are he’s sold mine separately for another few €€

25-06-2025 06:37PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123507796#Comment_123507796

Form is a statuary declaration form .

You fill your bit in , name adress make model of tractor, serial number.

Next get a dealer to check the tractor matches the details you put in .

From what I see dealer doesn't need to stamp it , just sign it , anyone could do it , .

Then get a commissioner of the oaths or peace commissioner to sign it .local politician does it for me.

It asks why you didn't follow normal change of ownership procedure. Log book lost or registered owner unknown.

Send it off and a few weeks later you get your logbook .

_Brian · 27-06-2025 05:54PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123579415#Comment_123579415

Only one dealer near us and I’m not going there after not buying a tractor of them, I’d feel that would be a bit cheeky would it not.

FintanMcluskey · 27-06-2025 07:42PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123585129#Comment_123585129

It would be cheeky, it would require a galvanize neck as my grandfather used call it

_Brian · 27-06-2025 08:03PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123585399#Comment_123585399

As a local publican said to two drunk lads who landed in slobbering about the place looking for drinks

“Why don’t ya go back and calve where ya were bulled”

bassy · 27-06-2025 08:08PM

If you don't climb the tree you won't get the apples

cuculainn · 27-06-2025 10:27PM

Find some random spot, walk in ask for form to be stamped and throw them a few quid.....job done

MOD NOTE I'm fairly sure this is illegal, so you have been issued with a warning.

28-06-2025 05:02PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123585878#Comment_123585878

That's what a lit of lads do. . When I got it done , it wasn't even stamped, only signed

cuculainn · 28-06-2025 08:59PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123585878#Comment_123585878

My point was it doesn't have to be a garage that you normally deal with, you can go to any garage...and you will have to walk in with the form and get it stamped...that is the process.......maybe my wording left it open to being interpreted in other ways

_Brian · 29-06-2025 09:40AM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123588192#Comment_123588192

the process is you must being the tractor to the garage so they can inspect the chassis/engine number so it’s the same as on the form.

I can appreciate if you were dealing with a garage regular they would stamp the form without seeing it, I wouldn’t do that

Tractor with no logbook?.

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