Donald Trump the Megathread part II - Mod Warning added to OP 10/1/26

threeball · 29-05-2025 08:37AM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123495607#Comment_123495607

He always has numerous grifts going on. His plan is to walk away from this as wealthy as possible. He also spent his day pardoning a number of people involved in fraud cases. One couple tried to defraud some small financial institutions of €30 million, their daughter spoke at a Trump rally, the other guy who stole €10 million from company pay cheques His mother paid €1m to go to the Trump dinner and he was pardoned just yesterday. They might even get jobs in the administration if they keep licking his hole.

thatsdaft · 29-05-2025 08:39AM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123495653#Comment_123495653

The same US media are now avoiding Trumps senile cognitive decline which is visibly getting worse (which in itself is an achievement)

Man camera woman tv

And don’t get me started on BBC americast coverage, those guys can’t contain their excitement about Trump episode after episode

Patrick2010 · 29-05-2025 08:44AM

What a corrupt country the US has become….

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2025/may/28/trump-pardon-power

Donald Trump pardoned the hosts of a reality TV show convicted of defrauding banks to fund their luxurious lifestyle in the same week that he pardoned a sheriff who accepted bribes from businessman in order to make them into law enforcement officers.

Trump started his second term with a massive act of clemency: granting pardons and commutations for all those convicted for their roles in the January 6 riot at the US Capitol, including some who had engaged in violence that day.

Since then, he has pardoned a host of people convicted of fraud or public corruption, as well as a group of anti-abortion protesters who blocked access to a clinic.

Those pardoned include the former governor of Illinois who now calls himself a “Trump-ocrat”, the founder of the Silk Road darknet online market, two police officers convicted for their roles in the death and coverup of a young woman, a former state senator in Tennessee, the founder of an electric vehicle company, a nursing home executive and a woman who collected money for a police memorial who used the money for herself instead.

Podge_irl · 29-05-2025 08:44AM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123495475#Comment_123495475

What on earth are you on about. I was asked a specific question and responded to it. I have also made reference to several different European countries.

The median US worker is better off than everyone except a Luxembourger.

everlast75 · 29-05-2025 08:53AM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123495658#Comment_123495658

The same US media are now avoiding Trumps senile cognitive decline which is visibly getting worse (which in itself is an achievement)

Don't worry. Jake Tapper will write a book on it after Trump's term is over. You'll understand… he's a bit busy, shamelessly promoting a book which sh1ts all over an 82 year old who has cancer, and his scandal free and extremely successful tenure.

Igotadose · 29-05-2025 08:54AM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123495673#Comment_123495673

FFS he might appoint Blagojevich as an ambassador. I guess he has prior art there with Charles Kushner the ambassador to France, though at least Kushner served his prison sentence.

10000maniacs · 29-05-2025 09:23AM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123495566#Comment_123495566

There has got to be a clause in those IDA grants that says if the company pulls the plug within a certain amount of time, they forfeit the money.

If there is not this clause, it is negligent.

Leroy42 · 29-05-2025 09:30AM

So, after all the turmoil, after all the bombast from Trump and the claims of success from his cabinet and his supporters, it turns out that the issue that was brought up right at the start, that POTUS did not have the power to set tariffs, turns out to be completely true.

Obviously, they knew this, or should have known, and tried to bluster and bully their way through.

Que massive lawsuits for anyone that either had to pay the illegal tariffs or lost business because they didn't order stock due to the tariffs.

What a massive screw up by Trump. What a joke of an administration. What a complete and utter failure. We all thought his failure to have any sort of plan to remove and replace Obamacare was pretty bad. But this is much worse.

What will his next call with China or Ursula be like? "Hi Donny, heard you have no power over any of this, so let's call it a day and you go back to playing golf. Just enjoy being a lame duck for the next 3 years and tell Congress we can talk after 2028".

10000maniacs · 29-05-2025 09:32AM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123495655#Comment_123495655

The only thing he can't grift on is extending his mortal coil. He is 79 and seems to be getting more feeble minded and insane with every interview he gives. He is going downhill. I bet this is the thing that annoys him the most.

All that money and he is like everybody else, only as good as his weakest link.

threeball · 29-05-2025 09:39AM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123495878#Comment_123495878

Yes, but as much as he dispises his own kids he still wants to feather their nests. As much as he wants to live forever, he also wants the name to live on. The Brand can't die with him.

ancapailldorcha · 29-05-2025 09:42AM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123495907#Comment_123495907

True but like Tywin Lannister, he did nothing whatsoever to prepare them for it. The MAGA grift, like anything else, can't last forever and Tywin produced a single worth successor. Don Jr, Eric and Ivanka are just people of privilege who have had everything handed to them. Like Donald, they've never worked for anything.

The name will live on because, odd as it sounds, there are Trumps who have legitimate achieved success in their fields.

briany · 29-05-2025 09:48AM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123495922#Comment_123495922

If there is a familial successor to Trump, it's probably Barron, but he needs a few more years at least.

Maybe it doesn't matter because the founder of a cult of personality can remain leader of it even in death. The next person at the podium isn't a leader so much as they are a caretaker - a steward of the movement, and they use their proximity to the founder as a way to claim legitimacy, ie the Kims in North Korea.

ancapailldorcha · 29-05-2025 09:54AM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123495962#Comment_123495962

I think the most likely scenario is the MAGA snakes tearing each other apart after Trump dies. They're happy to play second fiddle to the man himself but once he's gone, they'll go for each other's throats.

Damien360 · 29-05-2025 10:18AM

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I am certain the IDA has a minimum requirement for remaining in Ireland on their funding to companies. Otherwise, they look for it back. It’s a grant agreement on their website but I can’t find the terms.

Rawr · 29-05-2025 10:20AM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123495985#Comment_123495985

I somewhat imagine a combination of this and the North Korea scenario that Briany describes. MAGA will fracture, but my guess is that it’ll likely fracture into a set of groups who will compete into being the «true» follow-up to Donnie’s nonsense. This is where a total lack of political policy beyond following Donnie’s whims will come back to bite them.

Each MAGA faction is going to have a hard time building a distinct message to rally around, because there’s really isn’t any message now beyond placating Donnie and in return getting permission to be as anti-social as they want. That fracturing is going to make the GOPs job all that much harder after Donnie is gone. As abysmal as the Dems have been, they can at very least change leaders and keep going. I’m not sure if that is true anymore for the GOP.

Quin_Dub · 29-05-2025 10:30AM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123495962#Comment_123495962

I highly doubt it..

Melania and he are far more likely to take the cash and run as soon as they can.

I just don't see her hanging around post Donald , if for no other reasons than that Jr, Eric and Ivanka will do everything they can to cut her out.

She'll take her money and Barron will go with her.

yagan · 29-05-2025 10:39AM

I can't see the reputational damage being undone. Looking in from the outside no one will be confident that another anti business cult won't emerge after Trump.

Even if MAGA splits and flounders there's still the risk that a US state or two have a Waco style showdown with the federal government.

Rawr · 29-05-2025 10:40AM

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Melania is going to be an interesting one. I also wonder how her simps will feel when she does eventually jump ship. (They really do seem to get upset when any of us speak poorly of her. She’s «stunning» don’t you know?).

I still believe that she would have bailed had Donnie lost in 2024. Now she’s there until at least 2028 or whenever Donnie expires…whichever is sooner. If Donnie pulls a «Russian» and runs from office with a large amount of assets, then she might hang on in the hope of inherenting after he dies.

However, if the Financial Wolves that were circling him in 2024 make a comeback and gut the Trump Org for everything it’s worth, then I expect she’ll bail during his lifetime with as much as she can take with her.

ancapailldorcha · 29-05-2025 10:46AM

Looks like the tariffs have been blocked:

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/live/c2dekzjg6gzt

Every time that place looks like it can't get any stupider, they surprise me.

Quin_Dub · 29-05-2025 10:49AM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123496136#Comment_123496136

Exactly.. After his first term , people could say " They made a mistake, they tried something new and it was a disaster, they won't do that again"

But now , no one can ever really trust that they won't elect another nutter again in the future.

That damage, that loss of trust will be impossible to restore.

ancapailldorcha · 29-05-2025 10:52AM

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According to Michael Wolff's book, she was in tears when he won in 2016. I think she's just waiting out the clock so she and her son can be secure.

Leroy42 · 29-05-2025 10:58AM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123496156#Comment_123496156

You can be sure that Trump and the Whitehouse will simply ignore this. Well, first off, the Press Sec will come out today, to slam the woke justice system, trying to undertake a coup against the most respected and biggest vote winner ever.

She will claim, and this will be repeated by the cabinet, that POTUS must have full power to negotiat,e and it is because Congress is so poor, and weak, and the democrats and evil socialists, that the country is dead and that only a single decision maker - some might say dictator - could lead the contry through this emercengy.

And anyway, the US has been making 200 quadrillion dollars a day from tariffs, paid for by the other countries, so really this is an attack by the woke liberal left by weaponising the courts system, to stop everyday Americans from getting jobs, from lowering inflation, from having free IVF and proper schools.

ancapailldorcha · 29-05-2025 11:05AM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123496203#Comment_123496203

Possibly. If Trump wants to wipe his arse with the US, that's his business but it makes life much harder for the rest of us. Doubly-so given Ireland's dependence on US FDI and Trump's "commitment" to repatriating said investments.

blackcard · 29-05-2025 11:06AM

Reporter to Trump. 'What is your favourite lie?'

Trump: 'I don't tell any lies'

Reporter: ' Yes. That is my favourite too'

Quin_Dub · 29-05-2025 12:02PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123496183#Comment_123496183

Agreed - There are reports that she has renegotiated the terms of their pre-nup several times since he got involved in Politics to secure her and Barrons financial future.

They are no longer married in any real sense - They spend almost no time together and even when they are "together" it is only for the cameras.

At this point , she is a highly paid actor playing the role of first lady and nothing more.

10000maniacs · 29-05-2025 12:05PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123496156#Comment_123496156

Yeah, that ruling only applies to the 10% blanket tariffs, and he will likely appeal it in the Supreme court.

Using emergency powers to impose them was the big joke in all this. Probably doesn't sit well with a normal judge.

The Supreme court will probably reject his appeal as well if the judicial system was anyway normal. But who knows?

Quin_Dub · 29-05-2025 12:13PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123496460#Comment_123496460

Yeah..It's his use of these "war-time emergency" type powers for the tariffs and immigration that the Courts are pushing back on.

He can do ALL the things he's trying to do , just not by declaring an emergency and bypassing congress.

If he wants to do them he just has to get congressional approval…

Leroy42 · 29-05-2025 12:14PM

I think it applies to any blanket tariffs, such as the Chinese and EU tariffs.

roosterman71 · 29-05-2025 12:14PM

How come no one has challenged the "national emergency" that is the root of all his supposed EOs where he can do what he wants because it's an emergency? Who decides if it's an emergency or not? That's the thing the legal eagles should go after cos once an emergency is described as something, or if it's ruled that the US isn't in an emergency, it takes the legs from under a lot of this rubbish.

Quin_Dub · 29-05-2025 12:17PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123496494#Comment_123496494

There are at least a couple of challenges to just that making their way through the system at present.

Donald Trump the Megathread part II - Mod Warning added to OP 10/1/26

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