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Donald Trump the Megathread part II - Mod Warning added to OP 10/1/26

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 14,218 ✭✭✭✭machiavellianme


    

    

    Dont the penguins hate the Orcas?

    I do enjoy a penguin bar though.

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 996 ✭✭✭Detritus70


    This is funny. Star Wars was a pipe dream in the 80s. Ronald Reagan's bluff to goad the USSR into spending it didn't have into technology that wasn't feasible at the time.

    Now Trump is doing the same thing to his own country. The technology may be feasible these days, but it's still plowing vast resources into solving a problem that doesn't exist.

    And all the while he's draining resources so his billionaire buddies can make a few more bucks.

    The savings from cutting social services are insignificant. He's opened two scuttle valves and has one guy with a bucket bailing. How long before we see Soviet Union style collapse?

    Fully Automated Luxury Gay Space Communism



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,092 ✭✭✭✭aloyisious


    Tom.Adelbach - YouTube video clip of: when penguins attack…



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 941 ✭✭✭Baba Yaga


    not anymore,they made peace…the orcas are the secret submarine fleet!

    yo! donnie vonredactedpants,vlad putin,benji netanyahu,vic orban..you sirs are the skidmarks on the jocks of humanity!!!



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 44,173 ✭✭✭✭ancapailldorcha


    I agree with almost all of this. I hate to be semantic but in fairness to the American public, they did vote by a majority of millions for Hilary Clinton, a qualified establishment candidate. Of course, in equal fairness, they did vote for the convicted felon by a clear majority in 2024 so it cuts both ways. It reminds me of the episode of Family Guy where Brian runs to be mayor of Quahog. He says if it's not him, it'll be some career politician and what will they do to which Stewie responds with one word, "govern".

    It's funny that "career politician" has become a kind of slur-like insult. I wouldn't want laser eye surgery from someone who wasn't a career eye surgeon doing my LASIK.

    The answer to your superpower question is the EU IMO. It has very severe problems, perfectly personified in one Viktor Orban. European citizens need to engage better with it, stop sending grifter MEPs to Brussels and demand stronger, more unifed action. China's morally unfit to lead the world for the reasons you've given above.

    I think America's been able to coast since the war because of their powerful economy. Now that that's started spluttering and Asia and Africa are rising in power, the social problems are harder to ignore and are forcing themselves into the public eye, best exemplified by the murder of George Floyd and the rise of BLM. It was fine for them to turn education into a luxury when those factories needed workers but now the work has either been offshored or automated so there are now hordes of angry, disaffected men and that never ends well for any polity.

    The foreigner residing among you must be treated as your native-born. Love them as yourself, for you were foreigners in Egypt. I am the LORD your God.

    Leviticus 19:34



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,169 ✭✭✭FishOnABike


    @Trump - Can you see this fabulous Golden Dome? Is it in the room with us now?

    This would be funny if it was coming from some washed up drunk propping up a bar somewhere - how does this guy pass a cognitive test? If he wasn't surrounded by so many minders I doubt he would be capable of independent living.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,169 ✭✭✭FishOnABike


    Someone should play along with the fool and tell him that as Canada is bigger than the USA it might consider a deal if Canada was 51 of the 101 states. 😉



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 13,550 ✭✭✭✭AbusesToilets


    The economy would be fine if insane death cultists weren't in charge of government.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 44,173 ✭✭✭✭ancapailldorcha


    No, it wouldn't. If that was the case, the convicted felon wouldn't have gotten anywhere near 1600 Pennsylvania Ave. If Clinton won in 2016, Trump would have kept going. The issue is widening inequality, ballooning corporate power and profits, and the fact that most Americans can't afford a minimal standard of living.

    https://www.cbsnews.com/news/cost-of-living-income-quality-of-life/

    The foreigner residing among you must be treated as your native-born. Love them as yourself, for you were foreigners in Egypt. I am the LORD your God.

    Leviticus 19:34



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,687 ✭✭✭threeball


    AI will be the end of humanity. You'll have bots following every single move you make, from what you type, to where you go, down to private conversations at home via smart tech. No one will be able to object to anything or stick their head above the parapet as there will be a trove of info available to blackmail you. Even if you live like a monk, the AI will have the ability to manufacture dirt on you. You'll have a handful of creeps like Zuckerberg who'll have the means to control the population.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 13,550 ✭✭✭✭AbusesToilets


    Yes, but those issues exist largely due to Republicans being in charge, preventing any legislation to address those issues. Not to give the Dems a pass, but they have at least pushed bills that would tackle those problems



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 44,173 ✭✭✭✭ancapailldorcha


    Sure but my point was that the structural issues in the economy would have been there regardless. It just would have been better to have a sane Democrat try feebly to make change than Trump actively leeching off the taxpayer.

    The foreigner residing among you must be treated as your native-born. Love them as yourself, for you were foreigners in Egypt. I am the LORD your God.

    Leviticus 19:34



  • Moderators, Politics Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 17,324 Mod ✭✭✭✭Quin_Dub


    What I love is the fact that he's only just discovered that after he's spent several months slagging them and running them down , without full cooperation from Canada his utterly stupid "Golden Dome" will be even more useless than it is..

    Without integration with Canadas radar system any missiles etc. coming "over the pole" won't be detected in time for any potential defence system to have a hope of working..

    Ooops….



  • Moderators, Sports Moderators, Paid Member Posts: 32,355 Mod ✭✭✭✭Podge_irl


    The findings? For the bottom 60% of U.S. households, a "minimal quality of life" is out of reach, according to the group, a research organization focused on improving lower earners' economic well-being. 

    Given the median household income in the US is 80k$, I think that report is nonsense.

    This mantra of Americans overwhelmingly living paycheck to paycheck is part of what fuelled Trump's campaign and it is just demonstrably not true.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,526 ✭✭✭Economics101


    This is on a par with Nazi book-burning when it comes to sheer intellectual obscurantism:

    https://www.politico.com/news/2025/05/27/rfk-jr-nih-scientists-medical-journals-jama-lancet-nejm-00371349



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,608 ✭✭✭thereiver


    Sales of Tesla cars are down 48 per cent the cybertriucj is a disaster people are getting killed eg if a Tesla car goes on fire theres no simple way to open the door or windowa if the software electrical system is not working due to fire damage trump is destroying the tourist industry it turns out being racist and insulting people from Europe is not a good way of attracting tourists he has reduced the value of the dollar The dollar is no longer the default investment for international traders the new bull adds 4 trillion debt. As the dollar falls interest rates go up America go fall into a doom debt cycle eg as the cost of the debt rises it takes more tax revenue to service the cost of debt Trump and his cronys are ok as they are grifters they are getting rich from public contracts and selling digital currencys

    Musk gets most of his money from starlink and public government contracts Even maga supporters are getting screwed if they get caught up in floods hurricanes extreme weather they will find there's no fema federal workers left to help them to rebuild infrastructure or give them basic supplies

    Most states in America are vulnerable to extreme weather events hurricanes wildfires due the the effect of climate change



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,687 ✭✭✭threeball


    They live paycheck to paycheck because they spend like money is going out of fashion. There's a reason they have such deficits with the world. Lots of American houses are overflowing with useless tat, the latest Temu gadget or expensive toys like Jet skis etc. Not being able to buy the latest fad is classed as living paycheck to paycheck by a lot of Americans.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,169 ✭✭✭FishOnABike


    $80K doesn't go as far in the USA as it would here.

    There's no public health service to speak of so you've got both the high cost of medial insrance and the gap to bridge between what medical insurance covers and what medical care costs - far higher than here.

    Cost of higher education and repayment of education loans.

    The need to provide more substantially for one's own pension / retirement fund.

    A lot of things we take for granted like paid holidays, paid maternity leave, illness etc. are not standard and need to be covered from your own pocket.

    At will employment and far fewer workers rights and fewer social supports can mean you can go from coping to being in serious financial difficulties far more quickly than here. Unless you have a reasonable financial buffer you can be just one relatively minor injury away from bankuptcy.



  • Moderators, Sports Moderators, Paid Member Posts: 32,355 Mod ✭✭✭✭Podge_irl


    $80K doesn't go as far in the USA as it would here.

    No argument there. But the argument that a majority of households in the US can not afford to live is demonstrably ridiculous.

    Outside of the bottom 20% or so, they are far richer than Europeans.

    This is the ultimate travesty of the whole thing. Trump came into power on the back of a story that simply isn't true.



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  • Moderators, Sports Moderators, Paid Member Posts: 32,355 Mod ✭✭✭✭Podge_irl


    You have people in NYC on 500k claiming they live paycheck to paycheck. It has become an utter parody and no one should take any self-reported definitions of it remotely seriously.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,639 ✭✭✭amandstu


    I wonder if there will be an outflow of Americans wanting to go to University outside the Fatherland(and a decline of quality in the US universities left with the docile stock of conformers)

    Post edited by amandstu on


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,169 ✭✭✭FishOnABike


    Except that report isn't based on self reporting or feels. It's based on objective measures like access to housing, medical care, food, transport, being able to host five people in your home for a meal once in a year, being able to go to the cinema six times in a year, buy cloth,get a haircut. Simple essentals and basic quality of life measures. Nothing extravagant.

    Another study from the OECD shows the USA has the second highest level of poverty in the OECD.

    https://www.statista.com/statistics/233910/poverty-rates-in-oecd-countries/

    Wealth inequality in the USA is higher than in almost any other developed country, and getting worse.

    https://www.madisontrust.com/information-center/visualizations/which-countries-have-the-greatest-wealth-inequality



  • Moderators, Sports Moderators, Paid Member Posts: 32,355 Mod ✭✭✭✭Podge_irl


    Except that report isn't based on self reporting or feels

    Yes I know. But there are other surveys specifically on the "paycheck to paycheck" narrative.

    As regards the LISEP report, it is meaningless unless they apply their methodology also to other countries for comparative purposes. However, prima facia, a report claiming 60% of households can't afford cost of living should face incredibly scrutiny and a presumption of skepticism. The median household income in the US is significantly higher than Switzerland. These people are not poor.

    Yes, the poverty rate in the US is high. Like I said, the bottom 20% is poorer than Europeans. Nearly everyone else is richer. The narrative is correct about one thing - the middle class in the US is shrinking, but that is because people are moving up, not down.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,639 ✭✭✭amandstu


    Do you have first hand experience of living in the US?

    I admit I find it strange that the supposedly wealthiest economy should have so many seemingly only just getting by ,but I was only there some 50 years go (and very glad to see the back of it even then despite the many good aspects to the people and the country itself)



  • Subscribers, Paid Member Posts: 44,577 ✭✭✭✭sydthebeat


    @thereiver just a little bit of a call out to you.

    your posts are very difficult to read due to the lack of punctuation, which is a pity as you often give good input into threads.

    for example in your first paragraph here you have two full stops (im assuming one at the end of the paragraph)

    however, reading it it appears that there is up to 10 sentences in that group of words? im not sure. There are extra spaces where you might be stopping a sentence, but there are also extra spaces clearly within a continuous sentence as well.

    have you any spell check in the browser you use which can help?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 9,088 ✭✭✭spacecoyote


    Probably taking a median for a country as large and disparate as the US is a bit of a crude measure, given income is extremely concentrated in the US.

    There would be massive differences in terms of medians at state level I would say, and you've probably got some states way above the national median and the majority below it



  • Moderators, Sports Moderators, Paid Member Posts: 32,355 Mod ✭✭✭✭Podge_irl


    Nope, though the fact it is an incredibly expensive place to live is not news to me. I visit regularly enough.

    But the median disposable income by PPP is second globally only to Luxembourg. So if the median person can't afford to live in the US (and apparently 10% above the median), then they can't afford to live anywhere which is clearly not true so it is very obviously a deeply broken metric and should not be given such uncritical credence.

    The wealth gap in the US is bad and getting worse. The poorest in society are treated very poorly. And the vast majority of Americans are far richer than any of us in Europe. All of these things are true and giving succour to ridiculous claims that 60% of American households can't afford to live is farcical frankly. It is an absurd claim.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,639 ✭✭✭amandstu


    I do remember all that time ago that the concept of "food deserts" was alive back then.

    Of course I had no transport but all I could find was a little cornershop with junk food.

    I think I lived on plastic bread ,peanut butter and grape jelly can't remember any cooking facilities in the "flat".



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  • Moderators, Sports Moderators, Paid Member Posts: 32,355 Mod ✭✭✭✭Podge_irl


    The median household income of Mississippi is the worst in the US and is 54k$. The median of the medians is Georgia at 75k$.

    The median American in Mississippi is still richer than the median European.

    This argument about how Americans are struggling is, for the most part, a complete fiction that Trump has pushed to great success.



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