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Technology needs to downgrade some things that went in the wrong direction

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 195 ✭✭nearby_cheetah


    Now you can spend all your free time on boards.ie protesting against the system - unpaid - and beating the drum that others should do the same, droning on about mental health instead of proving your worth and get yourself into a comfortable salary with a comfortable life. Well done you.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,839 ✭✭✭Bogey Lowenstein
    That must be Nigel with the brie...


    Modern vacuum cleaners are pants, and prone to breaking down constantly, even the really pricy ones. An old upright from yesteryear with the bag down the back and the headlight on the front would still kick their asses.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 577 ✭✭✭Woodcutting


    Let's go back to phone boxes with buttons A and B



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 707 ✭✭✭antfin


    I had this argument with my wife who loves the Dyson. I got an old fashioned Miele with a bag and it's a serious workout to push it around on full power with the suction and will go for as long as I'm able to push it because it's plugged in! The Dyson works for 20 minutes on full power before it needs a recharge and cost twice the price. Also the suction is never as good but gets progressively worse as the filter and dirt collector fills up! It's grand for a quick clean up but not for a whole house clean.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 29,335 ✭✭✭✭_Kaiser_


    I have an old Miele that I bought around 2005 that's still going strong and on all the original parts. Fantastic thing!

    I do have a shark cordless that was a bargain alert here at one point that I use for quick runs around or in the car, but it's no comparison with the Miele.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 32,350 ✭✭✭✭AndrewJRenko


    Got a Samsung cordless last year - game changer. Enough power to give whole place a once over, and good suction, but very light and easy to use.

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    I do agree that newer is not always best! I have an old corded Nilfisk (Go model) and I love it for really tough jobs (like when I had electricians in recently, doing wiring). The floors were a mess after.

    But for the every day once around the house, and for pet hair, I have a cordless Hoover pet vax. The pet hair brush is a gamechanger. I'd buy it again, just for that!



  • Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Technology & Internet Moderators Posts: 95,466 Mod ✭✭✭✭Capt'n Midnight


    AI marketing / suggestions.

    All of the online retailers have perfect history of my behaviour on their sites and can pigeonhole me into profiles they've made based on decades worth of perfect history billions of customer reactions to suggested products.

    The suggestions they make on average garbage and mostly time wasting. ( I don't need more toilet seats, No I don't want to spend tens times as much on similar items, If I click on free delivery and sort low to high, don't show me other stuff, )

    Either

    they don't use AI because it's no better than what they were using

    AI is garbage

    They are using AI against us



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,328 ✭✭✭Ubbquittious


    Don't get rid of it because new hoovers are subject to a EU maximum wattage limit of 890w. The old ones were nearly 2KW and sucked much harder. Now your only way around the limit is to buy a commercial one



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 29,335 ✭✭✭✭_Kaiser_


    Interesting! Never knew that. Yep, mine is rated at 2200W (model S211).



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,295 ✭✭✭✭kneemos


    A weird ruling by the EU. Like your Hoover of all things that's used once of twice a week will save the planet. The weaker ones are probably used for longer thus negating any savings.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7 greenbin2


    Hoovers and technology have gone the right way, we have robot hoovers everywhere, they are vacuuming and washing my floors all weekend while we go for hiking, swimming, shopping & cinema, the poor bastards

    They need a good clean out every month or 2 but I like that sort of thing, (much more then I like vacuuming)



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,391 ✭✭✭Eire Go Brach


    Microwaves.
    I always seek out the simplest. But they are harder and harder to find.
    All we need is 2 knobs. Power and time.

    Who even uses the other functions. What are they even for?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,507 ✭✭✭✭astrofool


    The new flatbed models make a difference, no fiddly turning bits or plate, just wipe and its clean.

    Though it's still a Sharp with basically the same functions as the one I grew up with.



  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Arts Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 53,273 CMod ✭✭✭✭magicbastarder


    IIRC James Dyson (not that he has always been sensible) considered or took legal action on this topic, as Dyson were engineering efficient, powerful (in terms of suction, rather than power consumption) motors; and that other manufacturers were selling based on power consumption, which put him at a disadvantage. On the shelf, what are you going to buy, a 2200W one or a 1200W one?

    He wanted to move to a suction rating, not a consumption rating, which seems sensible to me.

    For a comparison I've a big woodturning lathe - the whole thing weighs over a quarter of a ton, for spinning up pieces of wood which can easily weigh 25kg or more. The chunky motor on it is rated to 1500W. I know the motors are designed to be used in different ways, but the idea that a vacuum cleaner might need 50% more power than that seems strange.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,295 ✭✭✭✭kneemos


    Just decrease the diameter of the hose I'd imagine would add suction. I have an old Nilfisk 90 though that would pick up practically anything.

    Must be bigger fish to fry though than bloody hoovers.



  • Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators Posts: 13,735 Mod ✭✭✭✭JupiterKid


    I have a 20 year old Nilfisk. Extremely powerful and reliable. Whilst it can be cumbersome dragging it around the place, the suction is second to none.

    Been thinking lately of buying a robotic vacuum for the living room rug which is a dirt magnet. Any good suggestions?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,970 ✭✭✭Glaceon


    From what I know, the EU cap on power outputs for vacuum cleaners was an attempt to encourage manufacturers to make them more efficient. Although with Trump abolishing Energy Star, I'd say the US will go the other direction. Inefficient stuff that's cheaper to buy but a lot more expensive to run.



  • Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators Posts: 13,735 Mod ✭✭✭✭JupiterKid


    Electronic payments and payment by phone. It has become increasingly difficult to find a decent ATM these days. How do older people even cope with this relentless push for electronic payments?

    I still use cash as well as my debit card - call me a backward Luddite if you wish - but if the power goes down and/or the internet is down etc. - I can still use my cash.

    Also handy for small donations and so forth.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,633 ✭✭✭Pauliedragon


    TIlls need electricity and Internet connection to function properly too.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,024 ✭✭✭Montage of Feck


    Smart tech is just a way to add obsolescence to perfectly functional items.

    🙈🙉🙊



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,822 ✭✭✭silliussoddius


    I wouldn't be surprised if it's a gateway to push people into crappy fin-tech products (douche tech-bro speak for crappy crypto products).



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,792 ✭✭✭jacool


    "The old ones ….. sucked much harder" That's the '80s wrapped up for me.

    We all need to downgrade, but from the 2020s to the 1980s!



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 29,335 ✭✭✭✭_Kaiser_


    The older I get, the more I become convinced that the mid-80s to late 90s were peak technology vs society.

    Technology entertained, supported and enabled us but it didn't take over our lives to the point it has now and things were built to last.



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    I agree about the lack of ATMs! They seem to be getting fewer and far between. I do keep a small amount of cash in the house, though I find I'm using it less and less these days. It's getting dusty!

    I was very (pleasantly) surprised lately when I had a tradesperson in to do some work, and he asked to be paid by sending me an invoice with a payment link directly to a Bank of Ireland account.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,295 ✭✭✭✭kneemos


    Has to put something through the books I suppose.



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